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Elaralith · Post by **Elaralith** » Tue Jan 21, 2003 4:31 pm

Greetings!

I would like to make a proposal concerning thread. First off, I think that thread is sold at too high a price by that human NPC. Two gold coins for one thread? When a new currency like copper comes the thread price would do better to be dropped to a few coppers, but for now I think two gold coins is too much and perhaps a lower price like one gold coin per thread might be better. Secondly, the only method by which one can obtain thread without buying it from the human NPC is by killing a monster, taking its insides, and using scissors to cut the insides into thread. What I propose is for their to be another method to obtain thread that is more peaceful, and would allow people who do not want to be fighters or fight and still be able to get thread without paying the human NPC. Perhaps a new herb/plant could be introduced like 'flax' and that plant could be gathered and made into thread instead. On the other hand, insides could have a new use like being able to be cut into rope. What use rope could have in illarion presently I do not know..., but if no use can be found for it perhaps it could be a "currently useless" item like the lamp. That is all! Thank you for reading.

-Elaralith

Moathia · Post by **Moathia** » Tue Jan 21, 2003 5:16 pm

I agree with you Elaralith, my chracter can't fight, she has to reley on freinds to get thread for her, if she wants to make a good profit, for the temple of course, but it's hard if she has to buy thread, because since she is still learning it is nearly impossible for her to make anymoney back from the thread if she buys it.

Cain Freemont · Post by **Cain Freemont** » Wed Jan 22, 2003 12:18 am

Now THIS is the idea I've been waiting for...

Serpardum · Post by **Serpardum** » Wed Jan 22, 2003 3:11 am

Well, thread is made from guts, and it's also made from plants, such as Papyrus and Cotton.

We don't have either of those in the client right now, so couldn't do it right now. Perhaps in the future.

Setherioth · Post by **Setherioth** » Wed Jan 22, 2003 4:03 am

You could also make hemp thread if a marijuana plant were introduced...?

Cain Freemont · Post by **Cain Freemont** » Wed Jan 22, 2003 5:11 am

Now now Seth...

It actually isnt a bad idea... but I think that the marijuana plant probably is not designed yet either...

Faramier · Post by **Faramier** » Wed Jan 22, 2003 6:50 pm

Weed plant is a great idea, then all the halflings could smoke it like they do in LOTR and dont bother whining about were not LOTR blah blah blah...

Guingalan,

Toren the Myrimdon · Post by **Toren the Myrimdon** » Wed Jan 22, 2003 8:35 pm

Yeah it would be really cool if there was an herb you could grow, and smoke in a carpentered pipe, and it would warp your screen a bit and add funky colors lol. something similar with alcohol as well. Just to have fun with... Like the alcohol in Everquest.

Elaralith · Post by **Elaralith** » Wed Jan 22, 2003 8:40 pm

@Separdum Yes, thread can also me made from various plants and usually is. I am glad to hear that in the future this proposal might come to pass.

Setherioth · Post by **Setherioth** » Wed Jan 22, 2003 8:57 pm

I like the idea of being able to smoke things in a carpentered pipe. It could add to roleplay. As for the funky colours...i don't really think that'd be appropriate...not to mention kinda sad...pretending your high off online weed....*shakes head*

Not to mention it would be kinda hard on the programmers too?

paul laffing · Post by **paul laffing** » Wed Jan 22, 2003 10:22 pm

What about the Cocoa plant? You can make chocolate and smoke cocaine at the same time! What a profit! Also, there could be addiction where if you don't buy drugs, your skills lower gradually...

Sir Turquine · Post by **Sir Turquine** » Wed Jan 22, 2003 10:47 pm

Just make the cocoa plant real expensive and have it boost your skills for a short time. It also has a small amout of poison that won't do anything unless the cocoa is taken in large doses. Then after the effects drop off, the skill begin to drop below where they originally were. They can only be restored by going for about 2 weeks without the cocoa or by taking more cocoa. Eventually if you keep taking more cocoa, the 2 weeks will change to 3 and you will require more (very expensive cocoa) to get the same boost to your skills. Then it requires 4 weeks and more cocoa. This pattern can go on and on and on. . . Eventually the poison will get you. Addiction is a very evil idea paul. I love it.

paul laffing · Post by **paul laffing** » Wed Jan 22, 2003 11:11 pm

Isn't this game supposed to mirror real life?

What about suicide? How come there is no pain when you FALL OFF OF BUILDINGS! And don't forget the opium plant! There could be a opium farm

Kringin · Post by **Kringin** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 12:16 am

Whats with all you drugged up people ?

Get some help PLEASE.

Yes price of thread is too high and many things sold by the NPC are aso too high.

ooo i got A use for a rope you could tie a sheep to something like that to a tree or even a pig, some animal that is domestic.

Have a nice day.

Cain Freemont · Post by **Cain Freemont** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 12:50 am

paul laffing wrote:Also, there could be addiction where if you don't buy drugs, your skills lower gradually...

...you piss and moan about skills bad enough as it is...

paul laffing · Post by **paul laffing** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 1:38 am

Well, are you saying that getting addicted to drugs does nothing to you? And what is your problem with me OOC?

Cain Freemont · Post by **Cain Freemont** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 1:46 am

...Did you NOT hear me?

Cain Freemont wrote:you piss and moan about skills bad enough as it is

That would be my problem with you... Dont be foolish, of course bad things would happen if you were addicted to drugs. The main problem is people (like you) would eventually whine about how it isnt fair.. or that its TOO much loss.. or some BS like that.

paul laffing · Post by **paul laffing** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 2:46 am

Well that is the risk you take when you use drugs! Do you not see?

Cain Freemont · Post by **Cain Freemont** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 3:53 am

This has nothing to do with drugs... Just drop the drug business.. if you want to talk about drugs then make a new, annoying post.

Everyone else:
I like the idea of using cotton or some other such material to make thread... It could even be a skill. This would, in turn, allow more player interaction as people would buy thread from players rather than fighting zombies or buying from the NPC.

paul laffing · Post by **paul laffing** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 4:26 am

What IS your problem with me OOC?

Elaralith · Post by **Elaralith** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 5:15 am

This is a thread concerning "thread" in illarion. It would be appreciated if anything else not about this topic were not posted here...

Cain Freemont · Post by **Cain Freemont** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 5:29 am

Problem addressed... Elaralith.. I have a topic for his rebuttles and mine... at least that way you can get back to your thread discussion.

Korwin · Post by **Korwin** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 5:50 am

Yes, I also agree that thread is a little hard to come by. Possibly the intestines could give you 10 thread since they are hard to come by, and the plants could give you 1 thread since they are simple to obtain. As for hemp... it is the greatest plant! I once saw this store where you could buy 'hemp cement', the claimed it was 10 times as strong as normal cement. There was also hemp clothing, that was 10 times as warm, and... Anyway back on topic. I like the idea, keep fighting for tailor rights Elaralith!

Setherioth · Post by **Setherioth** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 9:24 pm

I'm sorry i brought up the marijuana plant at the beginning which started the whole drug thing. I did not realise that some people could be so immature. Anyways this is a game, and drugs are very unappropriate.

As for teh hemp, i meant it in a serious way as hemp cord is quite popular, and as Korwin pointed out some other uses for it as well.

paul laffing · Post by **paul laffing** » Fri Jan 24, 2003 4:34 am

What about kevlar for armour or something? That would be cool if you could make kevlar jackets.

Mishrack · Post by **Mishrack** » Fri Jan 24, 2003 5:13 am

Firstly, the idea of Kevlar armour is to reduce dammage done by shrapnell. As we have no ´shrapnell weapons in Illarion, I dont quite see what it would be useful for.

Secondly, Kevlar is synthetic polymer, the fabrication of which requires quite extensive chemistry, which ios not available to us in Illarion, so it would be impossible for us to make anyway.

Setherioth · Post by **Setherioth** » Fri Jan 24, 2003 3:45 pm

kevler isn't just for shrapnel, it can be used to stop a knife thrust for example.

But true we have no means to make it.

Elaralith · Post by **Elaralith** » Fri Jan 24, 2003 5:26 pm

@Cain Thank you
@Korwin Don't you worry I'll never stop the fight for tailors

@Seth Kevlar...isn't it a synthetic material created using petroleum gas? A plastic I believe. I think such an item that belongs to the 20th century doesnt really fit in illarion...

As Separdum said their are no plants in illarion right now which thread could be made from as an alternative...but what I think could be used as an alternative to thread could be wool. Wool which can be spun into yarn right now...cannot yarn be also used for the same purpose as thread? They are both string-like materials. And even today yarn is used as a type of thread just as it was in the medieval ages.

Mishrack · Post by **Mishrack** » Fri Jan 24, 2003 5:38 pm

Seth, the advantage of a kevlar armour is that once it has been penetrated, by shrapnell for argument's sake, it closes the holes made by itself. It's structure allows it to expand back in it's original position so as to retain maximum defensive properties even after having been violated by much evil shrapnell. Secondly it is relatively soft, which is why it is used mostly for shrap. it encapsulates the small pieces of metal and can effectiuvely slow them due to their small size, whereas a knife which has a continous momentum will hardly be affected at all.

paul laffing · Post by **paul laffing** » Sat Jan 25, 2003 3:23 am

The "magic materials"

of kevlar could be made by a druid from some type of rubber plant (used for petroleum and plastic

) But i see your arguement about it for shrapnel. just a thought, though, how does it stop bullets?