Alright, Elaralith, I have had enough!

Salathe · Post by **Salathe** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 1:40 am

yea one ice flame and the icicle thingy would kill a guy

Cuderon · Post by **Cuderon** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 2:01 am

Uhm...

What the heck is happening here? I can´t stand all this ooc complaining and insulting against the player of Elaralith (not only in this thread). If she/he has made mistakes or has broken the rules, why don´t you write an email to violations@illarion.org ? That way the GMs would proove her/his play right or wrong.

This "witch hunt" might be ok ingame, but it seems that some of you are acting very overeagerly in this case. And we won´t come to an end just by accusing each other for doing this or that.

Grant Herion · Post by **Grant Herion** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 2:46 am

Well, it is because she has brought OOC things into IC. Everytime she is surrounded/threatened by stronger people she logs out in fear of losing her skills. If says it is her connection, but it is never her connection when she makes tons of fires and kills 4 people, only when she is in danger, so I think that she is bsing us. Plus, she acts like her character OOC and acts smarter and complains about people's roleplay and it gets on everyones nerves. And if logging out when threatened is against the rules we would have reported her, but since it isn't we rant about her here.

Cuderon · Post by **Cuderon** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 3:19 am

If you assume so, this is a reason to write the GMs, because this is mixing OOC knowledge (oh my god, i might loose skills!) with ingame acting.

It may not be writen in the rules, but I can remember former cases were such behaviour wasn´t accepted. So stop complaining and let the GMs judge.

Plus, she acts like her character OOC and acts smarter and complains about people's roleplay and it gets on everyones nerves.

I think there´s nothing wrong with that. "Help! She´s smarter than me

"

Grishnak Bloodlust · Post by **Grishnak Bloodlust** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 3:21 am

One thing about the Castle and flames and stuff.

It is possible to destroy stone with flames available to us in game.

These flames are magic and can be sumoned anywhere. However, burning may not destroy stone, not unless:

First you cast a normal fire, heat expands the stone.

Second, you cast an ice flame, cold retracts (whatever opp to expand) stone.

Thirdly, stone cracks. It's a form of erosion, plus this sand storm thing would be bad too, sand travelling at such a velocity against the castle will too erode the stone, but I guess the desert is too far away

Science is a dangerous thing! But would this have been common knowledge in medieval times?

Finally; I have a crap computer, or do I? Can you tell?

Albernon · Post by **Albernon** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 3:48 am

Well look at the SIZE of the magic flames.
Rock isn't just completely immune to heat, especially magic flames.

I guess it's up to your imagination to decide whether or not these flames can affect the stone, but it's not like that's the only way that fire ruins the rest of construction around there. There certainly needs to be some wooden supports and some adhesive that could melt.

Caranthir the great · Post by **Caranthir the great** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 3:54 am

It can't be up to the player's imagination, at least of the ones who is casting the flames. You don't have to be a scientist to see the outcome of that pondering.

I stick with my opinion that use a battering-ram, naturally a single person or even a pair couldn't operate one effectively, and thats better so.

@Grishnak

The stone would have to be heated for quite some time for it to expanding/cold reacting process to take place, it doesn't happen (at least as far as I know, feel free to correct if you know better) in a blink of an eye.

Grant Herion · Post by **Grant Herion** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 3:58 am

I think of the flames not as magical but as regular flames except you can conjure them without a spark and they can be very large. Like the fire flame is just like a regular fire only larger and uses mana to make, their is no evidence it is hotter then a normal flame.

neojb1989 · Post by **neojb1989** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 4:03 am

Im just suggestion. Try to kill stratigically rather then with brute force (although that also works well).

Elaralith · Post by **Elaralith** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 12:03 am

A "strategical" way to kill Elaralith ingame is to fight her one on one. Because two people don't cause so much lag for my poor computer.

When there is a crowd of people casting, using weapons that usually lags my computer to the point of disconnection.

Don't believe this? Ask Darlok. He was fighting my character one on one and killed her. Did I log off? No. I don't log off, my computer freezes and boots me out of the game.

Galim · Post by **Galim** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 12:10 am

then, perhaps, ya shouldn't play a charakter who caused such fights with many fighters. darlok is strong, but we others not. we must fight in groups to have a chance.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 12:13 am

This makes no sense to me that you would get kicked off after like 3 minutes of being pounded with spells from all sides. You would think after about 15 seconds of about 20 spells you might get kicked off.

Darlok · Post by **Darlok** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 12:24 am

A very clever way to fight your Character, really. This would insure that you will always win Elaralith.

My Character is strong, I dont think that many other can match him.
I, as the player, have also enouth experiance to decide a melee fight for me, if i really need to.

But i doubt that any averange Chracter has a chance agains your "tactic".
2 Shields, and a Combo-Spell-Attack (Paralyzis/Icefield).

You aint playing fair, Elaralith. You dont even want want to play fair in this case.

I personaly also dont belive your "excuse", you just did not log out, because you did not know that there is some Character who acutally is able to kill you behind 2 shields.
My Character killed your in one single blow, quite suprising for me too, there was not enouth time for your to even find the ESC Key.

Play fair, or leave. Thats all i have to say to you.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 12:28 am

I thought mages wore clothing or some leathers and used staffs or wands?
You would think it might be hard to cast in full knight armor with two shields.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 12:29 am

Indeed it would

neojb1989 · Post by **neojb1989** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 1:37 am

Elarith has anyone fought you one on one before? if not I suggest one of you people fight her one on one.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:19 am

Darlok is the only one I know of who has ever gotton through her armor.

Yes Elaralith you know 2 ice flames is about enough to kill just about anyone, cast tons of flames seems kind of like powergaming, well the "burning silverbrand" i can see, but you don't need to burn down everywhere else like the tomb as well.

Grant Herion · Post by **Grant Herion** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:40 am

I fought her 1 on 1, it is really easy to beat her, I found out when I was dodging her. She has slow reaction time, and because as a mage she doesn't use a wand, she can't lock onto you. So you jump in a direction, then cast a powerful spell, jump in a direction cast another one.

Noter- you must use a wand in this as it needs to be done quickly and if she nails you will a paralisis spell it is over.

Also, if I was smart I would have used that strategy on her before, but I am an idiot.

Aerinkoth · Post by **Aerinkoth** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:43 am

Actually, Muten Roshi one time attacked Elaralith with a war axe; with Elaralith's ungodly parry and two shield combo, of course, no war axe can pierce the armor. She thought some orcs were doing it, so she said "Stop human orcs, I hate having to parry you with my wand." Talk about BS central, even I know that the most experienced parry master can get killed by just about anything without a shield, especially from a war axe held by the most experienced fighter in the game.

However, fists tend to work against shields very well; it doesn't make much sense, but you can roleplay it as if you were attacking her head or something too quickly for her to raise her shields. Iqloo managed to pull this off on her, and she had to heal like crazy. ^-^

Grant Herion · Post by **Grant Herion** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:46 am

Also use needles for Puncture weapons. A friend told me that it was for getting through 2 shields.

Galim · Post by **Galim** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 3:06 am

the use of needles is bad rp. noone would ever fight with a needle. to fight with bare hands is okay, but just with a needle is bad rp.

and please,it isn't nice to write the best strategy for killing elaralith on this board. these are things people should find out IG.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 3:11 am

Yes I would have to agree with galim on this, you can play strategize, talk in-game.

Grant Herion · Post by **Grant Herion** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 3:18 am

How is it bad roleplay? Puncture weapons is a fighting skill, so a needle is what to use for it.

Galim · Post by **Galim** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 3:33 am

would ya fight with a needle against someon rl? if ya get attacked of someone and all what ya had are ya bare hand or a needle, would ya use the needle???

Gargoth Targûn · Post by **Gargoth Targûn** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 3:37 am

Well I saw this chiense man on TV who throws a reguar sweing needle right thru a glass window and not shattering it but leaving a little hole. He was trained by his father who was some sort of special assasin for the government a while back, yes assasinating with a needle....go figure

Obviously it would not be something common but it does in a way exist in RL belive it or not..

Grant Herion · Post by **Grant Herion** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 3:43 am

Of course you wouldn't use it in a melee fight. But you would probably use it if you wanted to make a steathy kill and sneak out without a large murder weapon.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 4:11 am

it is very light,small,thin, and sharp. ideal for getting around shields but quit hard to accually hit a person with due to its length.

Nom'edhel · Post by **Nom'edhel** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 6:13 am

you would be suprised how many people use needles to fight with. of course i would have to agree, you wouldn't use it in a melee fight.

Pok'ash · Post by **Pok'ash** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 8:16 am

why not use needle its quick because you can learn where you hit people to kill them. Like in the eye you can go quicker than with a big sword so I dont see why not use a needle but I thought that wasnt a skill I thought it was only sisscors.

Pokey

Keikan Hiru · Post by **Keikan Hiru** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:39 pm

Anybody who uses needles in a fight, training, whatever should not be suprised when i appear next to him.

So dont use it.