Special for druids

Maktan Hardtooth. · Post by **Maktan Hardtooth.** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:36 pm

What if we make that druids also has some special attack abilities so they are equal to a mage. lets say that they can make simple gunpowder in bottles and use them as weapons by tossing it at their enemies and it explode. Gunpowder did exist basck then in china for a long time so I'm not saying lets start modern weapons. Gunpowder existed for hundreds of years withought ever creating a cannon.

Maktan Hardtooth. · Post by **Maktan Hardtooth.** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:37 pm

And i want to add that I'm not a druid so This is not for myself

Viola Thistle · Post by **Viola Thistle** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:42 pm

Well, Druid's can make poison, though it is more commonly consumed voluntarily as ale and not forced upon others. *laughs*

Freo · Post by **Freo** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 12:40 am

I think that more people become Druids, because their characters are peaceful, or they put all their stats into fighting. The gunpowder idea isnt great, because first of all, we arent in china. Plus druids are suppose to use herbs and be in touch with nature, so its more likley that a druid turn into an animal or make poison than anything.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 1:34 am

Yes druids are supposed to be peaceful. I thought of this same idea a while back in some other topic. War mongering druids is the last thing we need.

Grant Herion · Post by **Grant Herion** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 2:29 am

Maktan, Illarion isn't China

. And yes, druids are peaceful people for the most part.

Maktan Hardtooth. · Post by **Maktan Hardtooth.** » Wed Jun 25, 2003 9:10 pm

Peaceful! peaceful! For some reasons i always got into fight with druids and get chopped up to bits.

Shoni · Post by **Shoni** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 7:33 pm

I've always wondered, where exactly IS Illarion? And I can't remember who, but someone said on one of the boards, that coal was not in Europe at the time period Illarion is supposed to be in. It came from China by Marco Polo. Not sure, don't really care, but if that's the case why couldn't Marco just bring the recipe for gunpowder with him? I think it would be fun blowing up things, but I believe druids are supposed to be peaceful. Maybe the answer would be to make a stronger poison, one that could kill. Since people drink so much, maybe they could build up a tolerance

Aradhul Rythwier · Post by **Aradhul Rythwier** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 7:37 pm

Yes but were elves,dwarfs,trolls,and other magical/mythical creatures in europe when illarion was supposed to take place

Maktan Hardtooth. · Post by **Maktan Hardtooth.** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 7:47 pm

@ Aradhul Rythwier In other words This can be a different history than our planet Does! genious! just plain genious!

Aradhul Rythwier · Post by **Aradhul Rythwier** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 7:49 pm

yes the history of Illarion is diffrent but i still dont think gunpowder is the best idea because gunpowder would lead to guns and so on

Aradhul Rythwier · Post by **Aradhul Rythwier** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 7:53 pm

But i just had an idea i remeber reading this series once Shannara something or another. But anyways there was a druid in there and he had this thing called druid fire 'which was blue' so maybe that could be the druids special attack.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 8:22 pm

druids fire? well hmm, maybe you could get a bucket of water , get a lump of "the smiths butter" also known as potassium, mix on the ground and KABOOM, it throws everyone adjacent to it maybe 4 squares back?

Aradhul Rythwier · Post by **Aradhul Rythwier** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 8:29 pm

No i mean like fire in a bottle you mix some herbs put in some coal and there ya go fire in a bottle. all you have to do is throw it and when the bottle hits the ground poof fire.

Or you could have it come out of the hands like in the book. So all druids would have that technique but as they get stronger so does the attack

Maktan Hardtooth. · Post by **Maktan Hardtooth.** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 8:32 pm

In illarion druids is the opposite of magic while the shannara series they are magical. (I've read them all!! Except for the new ones because they became somewhat different then i imagined).

Aradhul Rythwier · Post by **Aradhul Rythwier** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 8:35 pm

So druids in illarion are none magical

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 9:14 pm

no, read the vocations part. they don't have druid magic YET.

Drey Jol · Post by **Drey Jol** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 10:05 pm

How about in Two Towers, the movie? They had that powder that was explosive and blew apart the wall.

Grant Herion · Post by **Grant Herion** » Fri Jun 27, 2003 12:31 am

(Yea the SHannara series to pretty cool, I read the first 3 books The Sword, Elfstones and the one with the Book. They are cool)

But I think of it as a way to roleplay. If you want to fight, be a mage. If you want to live a life of peace become a druid. That is the way I see it.

Maktan Hardtooth. · Post by **Maktan Hardtooth.** » Fri Jun 27, 2003 1:05 am

Grant did you read my post about the killer druids?

Grant Herion · Post by **Grant Herion** » Fri Jun 27, 2003 1:09 am

Well... no, but I was just stating what I thought druids would be in reallife, peaceful people... Besides, you guys get poison, 2-3 doses of poison on anyone and they are dead.

Maktan Hardtooth. · Post by **Maktan Hardtooth.** » Fri Jun 27, 2003 1:14 am

I am not a druid. I am a M-A-G-E

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Fri Jun 27, 2003 2:46 am

oh and about my knock back thing, it only hurts the person who is making the explosion as rp wise they would be the closest even though others are the same distance because they have to mix the things. This is a good defense measure for fleeing druids and people.

Trice · Post by **Trice** » Fri Jun 27, 2003 2:24 pm

Aradhul Rythwier wrote:No i mean like fire in a bottle you mix some herbs put in some coal and there ya go fire in a bottle. all you have to do is throw it and when the bottle hits the ground poof fire.

That kind of reminds me of a molotow cocktail.

But then, most warriors are druids, because they need the attribute points
for strength or constitution. Because a druid doesn't require any special
attribute like mages do with intelliegence most warriors would probably
be druids. And I would'nt go as far as to say, that I think a lot of warriors
could really stay absolutly peaceful all the time.

Further I propose, even if this may a bit off-topic, that druid-magic should
require intelligence, or maybe perception (as far as I understood this, it's
supposed to be, how good you can spot things...).
Druids work with herbs, and need to understand why and how the herbs
react together to a potion -> intelliegence.
Druids have to know where to find herbs or/and have to spot rare one's
-> perception

Elaralith · Post by **Elaralith** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 4:18 am

@Trice Ohh I like that...intelligence needed for druids and perception too...that would prevent the horrible warrior also secretly "druid" for money kind of character we have so much of now...
To bring this a bit further...

For mages: Perception-for the chance of miss of spells-> the higher your perception the more accurate spells are...

Droog smellfoot · Post by **Droog smellfoot** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 1:50 pm

But if you did that they would have to have something to defend them selfs with. I know this has been said before and it is probaly impossible at the moment but the druids could be able to summon creatures to there aid, but the ammount and the sort of creatures that come, depend on the enviroment.

Adano Eles · Post by **Adano Eles** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 2:23 pm

Druids will be able to defend themselves using their ability to calm animals.
This is NO multiplayer hack'n'slay where all classes need to be perfectly balanced out to have equal chances.
Each character class has special abilities for special situations, and hence it is only natural that there are advantages and disadvantages.

On another note, I'm not even sure if preset classes are really that good. It is another example of these technical restrictions which I don't like. A number of individual skills which depend on differrent attributes to more or less efficient combinations are better in my opinion.

Trice · Post by **Trice** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 5:12 pm

Yes, true, but if you don't preset, it would be rather hard to make...
How does the programm notice, if you want to be a warlock, a warrior,
a mage, a bard...especially mage and warlock is the problem...both
can do somehow the same magic...so how does the programm notice,
which is which? (this is, of course, for the far future).

Then, druids are supposed to be, like already mentioned, peaceful people,
since they are connected to nature and life. So it would only be "realistic"
if they wouldn't fight too much. For the worst cases, they could maybe still
be able to call wild animals (bear/wolf for instance; this, too, for a probably
far away future)

paul laffing · Post by **paul laffing** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 9:31 pm

Well, for explosions, I find putting alcohol into fires extremely fun... who needs gunpowder?