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Post by Darlok »

Hey Vindigan,
there is a very good "work arround" with this problem that the Name Dyluck might be from a Videogame.

It is "Secret of Mana" right?
Well Illarion is a german(austrian) game, and there also exist a german translation for the Game "Secret of Mana".
But in this game the Character named "Dyluck" has be renamed to a more familar name on the german market. He's "Hagen" now.

So i dont see a problem using a name, that does not exist in the german version of the game you refer to. :wink:
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Post by Caranthir the great »

Galdriel wrote: Firenze as Town name on the other side should be recognized as such by any medium educated human
I correct you, any medium educated European. ;)
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Post by Mishrack »

Darlok wrote:Cant you name the Heros after your Desire in the original Version?
Yeah, you can - thing remains that it's still a male hero and a female joiner... ;)
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From what I know, people I know have made names that they thought they made up. They would then use it in games. Later they would get emails saying from a guy in some weird viking place was named that. He just thought it was funny and thought the person should know. Maybe become friends or something. Yet these names were strange. I believe that there was a real person just from the addresses and stuff on the emails. What I am trying to point out is...how can you make a name law against something like Firenze. Every word that someone "makes up" is being used. How can you actually "create" a name? You can't really. So how can they be violating rules? Just because they don't know? How would a person know their name was after a town? I also heard a story where a child's name was named after the ford truck due to he was born in a ford truck. Some names are quite funny on that list. Some are weird. Some are scary......Oh well...Not like anyone has power on this.

When I started using Kasume people thought I was female. I was confused by this. When playing my DOA (dead or alive) game I noticed that one of the (very hot) chicks was named Kasumi. I had NO idea about this! I have been using this name for a while now. Hardly anyone on here has said anything about it. Although in other games people think I am female for the longest time. Although I meant nothing to do with the DOA console game! How can you violate someone that really does not relize it?
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Post by Caranthir the great »

There is no 'law' against it.

I quote myself:
Life is unfair
Sure, if a person doesn't really know about such town as 'Firenze', I feel sorry for him. (but I think that he know, so I wont) But that is no excuse to get thought the appilcationsystem.
Incidents like 'Firenze' are bordercases, because there seems not to be a clear definition of their approvability in the namerules, so it is Gamemaster's decidion. I wouldn't have accepted him,but it was
'Firenze -insert some nice name here-' I would have done that.
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Post by Dracon »

Maby she souldn't list the names that were deleted. She should list the names that were accepted recently (I believe that the list would be much shorter :) ). Anyways I'm glad that the name Yuri isn't on the list.
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Post by Kasume »

I played runescape for about a year and got tired of running back and forth from the pond to the wolves. hehe. Chop chop chop! Level 71 wolves dead! Now I run back to the pond to fish lobsters! weeeee Splash Splash Splash! Burn Burn BURN! Anyway...that was my life for about 2 months. :lol:

Anyway I was just kidding. No wait! That name was from a asian guy I know. You can't use that!

Just kidding. I have no clue where it comes from. What I am trying to say is that you can't create a name for something you do not know.
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Post by Erdrick »

James wrote:...because if this was absolutely strict then illarions best roleplayer dyluck would have to change his name.
*Cough* Illarion's Best Roleplayer? How much did he pay you for that one? :P :wink:

But seriously now, I think that Zeke Ekez is a fairly good name. Where in the world would that be? O_o

And to James, my name is also from another game. But no one has tried to copy it yet (knock on wood) and I was the first. (And I do say, my roleplaying skills are quite excellent... ;)) It's worse when you have "L3golas" and "Legolass" and "Legggolas" because people have no imagination.
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Post by Grimlok »

Kasume wrote:Wow they didn't accept Grimlok? Weird. I have never heard of GrimloCk.
Well, technically I haven't tried to find out if they would accept the name or not, because there's still that news piece saying that they aren't accepting new players, and nothing has been posted to say otherwise, so I'm just waiting until it's possible to send a request.
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Post by James »

maybe i went a little ott on my dyluck acknowledgement i guess i felt a little guilty for bringing up the thing about his name :wink:

dyluck perhaps is not illarions best role player but he`s a good one that make you feel better or should i go for erdick is illarions best and if their was a hall of fame he should be in it.
only kidding erdick is good iv rped with him for a little bit.
:cry: no one mentions my roleplaying ability :cry:

thought erdick was familiar cant for the life of me put my finger on it.

at least we havent sonic the hedgehog applying yet

sorry if this is a little off topic
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Post by Galdriel »

Back to the topic of stupid names:

DaJuggaloGrody
SoundsOfWind
stevehi
Advanced
THor der Zerstörer
Slayer
tyrus2098
Darkwolf
DNL
Dragoncrawl
wicked young
Bone Crusher
Tempted
Ion Ageless One
Darkjose
Gandal the Elf
goldmember
- wind shadowchild
Mike Killsalot
bbmonsterthesecond
bbmonster the third
CriCk3t
Steven.v89
Shitbag
Tester
princ0r
dude
ILoveHuiJee
Ninja_786
beyblade20
Bakadude
Unimatrix
The Emporer
emporer
bigfatchicken
Vad Knight
Vadican Knights
Balmung
yitk
Will
baron beer
The Dauntless One
Insane-munkey
deathminion
Dxkiller
Footpad
Ninja
Midnight blues
Deadboy
forsakenghost
Forsaken-Chaos
Soul Brother
Vilesilencer
cooldiablo
Gnadenlos
BlindGuardian
Dudester
Willdude
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Post by Galdriel »

Just a litte addition:
Anybody who supplys a name like this will have a hard time to get accepted even with a good name.

Also in a few days i will publish a list of names, which are not THAT stupid, but still wont make it into the game. I will state a few general reasons for their denial.
Discussion about them will not be accepted, their owners are free to apply with better names.

Anybody, who did apply not in the last 2 days, not on one of those lists, should have gotten the questions.
That means there are ~800 Answers to be written right now.
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Post by Arkadia Misella »

I absolutly love the names being tried...Gives me my laugh for the day. Would be alot funnier if only my first name wasn't on the really reallly long list (covers face completely ashamed) Well, I guess the embarrasing "having your name on the chalkboard" was worth seeing if the rpg actually did live up to its rules. The staff are doing a good job! (Bows to them all)
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Post by Friely »

sorry to be rude but as I am an experienced member but inside the body of a newbie (that made no sense at all). All I want to know is That I replied on 4/17/03 before the supposed Denial of accounts. I made a character the same name as my forum name and I didnt see any of name on the lists. As Galdriel said I should of gotten my questions but Ive never even seen one yet. Can you please help me out?

Friely~
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Post by Kasume »

Do you know when account acceptance will start again? I already have a character but, I was just wondering because of a friend. Is there a date when you will start taking accounts?
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Post by Erdrick »

I still see no problem with:
Gnadenlos
Balmung

Isn't your policy a bit strict?
And for some, all they need is a space. You can do that!

It's great, keeping all Non-RP'ers out, but when you deter the entire public, you kill the game.
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Post by Darlok »

Gnadenlos, german Word, means "Without Mercy".

[Edit] Noticed a Mistake i made with a incorrect Explaination of "Balmung".

Galdriel makes a great Job but she is not the Person who is resposinble for the correctness of the Names. Dont expect her to correct every Name in the Inbox of her MailAccount.

The Players here should be old and marture enouth to know how to type properly.
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Post by Galdriel »

Balmung is the Sword of Sigfried in a german/germanic saga called "Die Niebelungen"
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Post by Galdriel »

Now to the list of mediocre names. the cummulated reasons will come below.

rastlan xain
Frost
brujeria
Vince Nuke
Zin
mosja
drinnal
destro
gogetaz
Moon Yew
Sir Jacque Bornstien
Lucifer
Merlinx
khallmyr
Cricket
christopher print
Drunk
yubuu
princor
Goatman Toxo
Alucard
zmin
Lucifel
giliusius
Dvondrake
lindin
John Faa
korinthia
Alxx
Rif arma Coral
Bathy
Cassini
Jamlpr
Sparta
fiamcisco
Jesit
Sage Turak
magoishi
rojoze
Knod
Pdawg
mommo
mingyong
Sublimaze
Bloomba
Crimespree
Roku
Halifax
Parazard
Pine
Satadoros
Ethos
Neru
Foncé Dans\'Attente
Kepper
yataghan
Jenn
Kamui Corleone
Balum Mulab
Tkon
Zell
Sherezade
Mayan
Kozue
Naru
Melodic Rhapsodious
Einezel Ganger
Drake
Dart
Aragorn
Robert Fassbinder
Klipkop
nakuro
Masmune
Legolas
Alucard Quicksilver
Ed Turk
Kaze
Japmo
Krecken
Nelo
Treb le Clef
Magellan
Jaerk
Creatoras
Goat Feathers
Friely
Jonesy
Krantig Mana
Risikaa
Towle
Cjpe
Ruff
Kone
Humunumushkie
Sage Turak
Duedo
Glod Glodson
Jackey
Hasse
Dinde
Veritas Cariadland
Joobu
John Faa
Lilulay
Blista
Ray Zor
Kai Enduro
Kinger
Mirastatione
Balmung
Reiti
Lighbue
Anomen
Raia Nervae
Krylin
Zic Cloud
Zee
Obsidianos
Oura
Gilgalat Zauberhand
Arthur o Matador de Dragoes
Moris
Lagalat Zauberhand
Luke
Adamantine
Rello
Winvex
Stagg
Da Tru Mack
Thoxy
Bacus
Xyro
Strider
Rabid
Trup
Zeoz
Intschu Tschuna
Cyru
Hetter
Lupus Adiurd
Victorius
Baddo
Marinesnpr
Oaken
Jong
Barb
Veeh
Yamahawk
Ecuadorian
El Kais
Werr
Shok Kaos
Nephy
iwanbbo
Sir farlong
Sir Mary
rangerdan
Sir Benjamin
Onassis
Craer the Procurer
sir sherwoodmaster
rojoze
yubuu
tols
sacalis
elmie larkson
Bladesinger
haseeb
Loki
blazev
owlpost
merdock
Membrain
Yu-Gi-Oh
crusion
Vulpes Katana
hannes
KaraKinomoto
exumed
Joy
eskobah
Falconz
Neo Beowulf
emril
thoroma
Moon
Trival
orca
Shadowstar
ultrartemis
kamuikunbrus
dragunblud
Damocles
Yamato Zero
crany
pocias
mikhail
kulvane
ris
Madjestic Dias
Delorean
Arflarg Soulkiller
Iudex
Ryu Dragon
Krzycho
Sir Gareth the Brave
trogapelli jackson
Angora
Sir Tre
Count Eruza
Havocc
Seymour-varia
Skyler Rain
Vixxor
OBUR
Sir Jolt
WhiTewido
Lord Delek
Desire Allnighter
Charles Knight
Warriorzhenji
Assassinkenshin
Qwertyu
Meister Edler
Farok Darkmage
Sir Mithender
Elbereth
Peacy
Garfang the Great
Sygwal The Pure
zuidje
Lord Khorne
zaiquan
Gundam
Nemo Omen
wilmaed
Terris grammer
Scythian
Oxiller
Artox Son of Arthag
Walpurga Noctem
Sir Swatts
Sir Gandolf
Sassinator
Sir Hallmington
Doink
uragar
Tatumaki the Wizard
Lord William
Neon Cortex
Lord Kavalor
Sir Christopher
Rogue
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Post by Galdriel »

Reasons:

Dont start with a Capital (and no, i am not going to update them in the DB)
Sir, Lord, whatever (same as above)
Diminuitive forms ......y
Names with an obvious meaning (even if some of you wont grasp the meaning)
Countrynames / Citynames
Celebrity names
also i want to get away from the 3-4 letter names (and dont come to me, that there already exist some)

as stated above, and since none of the other GMs voted for any of the names, there will be no discussion.
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Post by Bumbol Woodstock »

Personnally, I cannot tell the difference between the bad names and the mediocre names. They both are horrible. God it would be horrible if they got in this game. Keep up the good work Galadriel.
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Post by paul laffing »

Elbereth isn't too bad... You never said anything against names of elven hymns. :D

And just because Nemo Omen is the same thing forward and backward, its not too bad. :wink: :D
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Post by Crocket »

It could be that Elbereth would be too confusing with Ellaralith?

Nemo is a famous submarine captain.
an Omen is a sign or message from the gods.
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Post by paul laffing »

No, Nemo is Omen backwards!!!

And Elbereth was an elven hymn in LOTR.
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Post by Shi'voc »

elbereth was not the name of a hymn.. though there were songs dedicated to elbereth :)
Elbereth was the sindarin name of Varda and means star queen in the lord of the rings...
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Yeah, that too. :D :wink:
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Post by Crocket »

paul laffing wrote:No, Nemo is Omen backwards!!!

...................
Nemo is the captain of a submarine.
I don't know if he was a real person or a person in a novel.
I think it might have been a TV show or movie.

Maybe "2000 Leagues Under the Sea" or something.
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Post by Shi'voc »

Captain Nemo is the captain of the submarine in the novel 20.000 leagues under the sea written by the french author jules verne...
he devised many interesting things in his books, many of them became reality years later (like helicopters... he described them in the 19th century... long before anyone was thinking they would be possible :) )

anyway.. this does not exactly belong here so i better stop ;)
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Post by Gro'bul »

there was also a really cool nes game called little nemo :D first game i ever use my old gamegenie on.
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Post by paul laffing »

Shi'voc wrote: he devised many interesting things in his books, many of them became reality years later (like helicopters... he described them in the 19th century... long before anyone was thinking they would be possible :) )
Erchem, are you forgetting Leonardo DaVinci? He made diagrams of helicopters long before Jules Verne was even alive! And did you ever read the book The Master of the World? That was a really good book by Verne that features an airplane, submarine, and car, among other things. Worth reading, and then rereading.

Anyway, I know that Captain Nemo is a fictional character from 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, but if you look at the whole name, Nemo Omen, you'll see Nemo is Omen backwards, the more probable reason the person picked this name.
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