Magic types

Elaralith · Post by **Elaralith** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 12:25 am

Right now there are some different types of magic: fire, air, ice, water, poison, earth. I think that different types of magic should effect different things...well differently. What I mean is that a lightning bolt (air magic) should hurt monsters like flies more than say earth magic would. Different types of magic should be good against different things. If this could be implemented soon that would really create a more diverse mage community as right now all mages aim to learn "xxx xxx' and such spells as they hurt everything the most....

Crocket · Post by **Crocket** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 2:16 am

Sounds like a winner to me.

water spells damage fire creatures more.
fire spells damage ice creatures more.
ice spells damage poison creatures more.
poison spells damage air creatures more.
air spells damage earth creatures more.
earth spells damage water creatures more.

Just a suggestion.

Kringin · Post by **Kringin** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 2:35 am

Its ice weakens fire and fire weakens ice

They are the most equal elements that are in existance, they can eliminate each other.

ice - fire
fire - ice
poison - air
air - water (freezes water)
water - earth (disintegration, since its magic its faster)
earth - fire
earth = ice (neutral)

Elaralith · Post by **Elaralith** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 4:18 am

Hmmm I really didn't think about the different elemental magics being especially good against each other etc. etc.
I was suggesting that air magic like lightning bolts do more damage than all other spells against such monsters as flies, and so on....So a water spell like cun jus could do more than any other spells do a monster of fire like a demon.

Crocket · Post by **Crocket** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 4:21 am

That's exactly what we were saying.
The fly would be an earth creature.
The demon would be a fire creature.

paul laffing · Post by **paul laffing** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 4:40 am

Just a quick question about fire and water. Did any of you know that there is lava at the bottom of the ocean? And it the water and fire have an uneasy truce. Maybe they should be equal because of their equal effects upon each other.

Elaralith · Post by **Elaralith** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 4:52 am

A fly as its name implies flies...I think it is a creature of the air. A creature of earth would be something like a wild wolf that runs on land etc.

Crocket · Post by **Crocket** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 5:01 am

Yeah, you could say that. I guess their is two ways of looking at it.
I consider a fly as a earth creature because it is flesh and blood.
air creatures would be air elementals, ghosts, spirits, etc. Things with no substance.

Poison creatures could be undead type.

Adano Eles · Post by **Adano Eles** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 8:30 am

This is a very good idea. I always disliked the fact that most of the Illarion spells were never used because they were simply inferior to ice bolts or big fireballs. However, I wouldn't say to distinguish creatures by elements. Spell effects should be set by the characteristics of the special monster. The most effective spells against flies would be those who damage a large area, because of the small size of the insects. Mummies would be affacted the most by holy or fire spells, skeletons by spells with large kinetic power. Bodyless creatures should be affected by spells who don't have materialistic but spiritual effects.

Kringin · Post by **Kringin** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 11:23 pm

Even if we do implement this lets not make it too hurtful (such as half the health!) to the opposer with different magic.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Sat Mar 22, 2003 12:08 am

well i kind of like this idea and it will probobly in the future, its basically the mage half of the fighting logics, what i mean is water puts out fire like a war hammer crushes a skeletons bones, but arrows fly right through.

Vindigan · Post by **Vindigan** » Sat Mar 22, 2003 12:40 am

It will turn into pokemon if it goes overboard, but it sounds good.
Will it work on Players as well? and if so, what elements will affect which races and why?

"Quick! get a lightning type, he's using a water type! and water conducts electricity!" Which, by the way, is a lie...

Elaralith · Post by **Elaralith** » Sat Mar 22, 2003 1:11 am

True! If this is implemented all caution will need to be used to not go overboard. I was thinking along the lines of minor effects in damage with the different magic types.

Crocket · Post by **Crocket** » Sat Mar 22, 2003 2:43 am

I wonder why whenever a good idea comes up people always compare it to other games...(tibia, runescape, dransik, and now pokemon)?

"That sounds too much like Runescape"
"Then it would turn into Tibia"
etc.

If it worked in other games then it must be a good idea.

paul laffing · Post by **paul laffing** » Sat Mar 22, 2003 3:01 am

The idea is that they didn't work in other games, i.e. Runescape.

Kringin · Post by **Kringin** » Sat Mar 22, 2003 3:48 am

They never had this in RuneScape...

paul laffing · Post by **paul laffing** » Sat Mar 22, 2003 3:59 am

I know. I was answering Crocket's question.

Crocket · Post by **Crocket** » Sat Mar 22, 2003 4:02 am

Kringin wrote:They never had this in RuneScape...

It was just an example. I've never played Runescape.

Kringin · Post by **Kringin** » Sat Mar 22, 2003 5:02 am

And I was just informing

, it may be fun the first few days due to the quests and stuff but 3 months later it sucks crap...

Bob Carstien · Post by **Bob Carstien** » Sat Mar 22, 2003 5:05 am

well if you ask me it dosent make sence at all.

About the fire water thing, if your fire is large enogh water will vaporise
when it reeches a hot enogh heat. As we suspect fire is can be a magical thin, it cant just be put out by normal water, you nead a holy water, somthing that wont vaporise. so in afect you need to get a priest to give the water magic propertise so it wont vaporise. and then you put out the fire. but who would want magical water?

Well just some ramblings from a demented mind Tata!

yours rejectedly Bob

Vindigan · Post by **Vindigan** » Sat Mar 22, 2003 8:26 pm

I think this idea makes perfect sense, unlike what you just said..

The point is that a water spell will hurt a fire based creature more than an air spell.

@Crocket
I think that Illarion should stay as original as it can, so comparing ideas to other games stops it becoming a mixture of all the games out now. I know that other games have good things about them, but that dosnt mean Illarion has to have them

Yours rejectedly, vindigan

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Sat Mar 22, 2003 11:24 pm

maybe when we have clerics that could work? or a preist npc that we could buy holy water from.

Aragon · Post by **Aragon** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 3:47 pm

@ Gro'bul:
Why do you need a NPC for buying Holy Water?
Go to a priest and ask him, if he would bless water for you and buy it from him/her.