Removal of the #i command.

Karl · Post by **Karl** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:08 pm

I think the !name and Give Name commands suffice. There should be a way to 'Give Name' to someone that you've already given name to.
I dislike the #i command, simply ruins it for fake names.

Julia D'Audarius · Post by **Julia D'Audarius** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:25 pm

I must say I agree. I rarely see anyone use #i unless they are new to the game, and there are many times that people are automaticly considered un-trustworthy because they do not #i.

Dariya · Post by **Dariya** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:26 pm

erm, I DO use the #i command and I meet many other players who do ...

Julia D'Audarius · Post by **Julia D'Audarius** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:31 pm

Dariya; sorry I did not mean to imply that people who use the #i command are all new to the game. What I was trying to comunicate is that I feel the #i command is no longer needed and that I feel it can encorage bad RP.

Theon · Post by **Theon** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:55 pm

Dariya wrote:erm, I DO use the #i command and I meet many other players who do ...

So do I. But Karl's talking about people who don't want to use their character's real name. He's probably tried to roleplay with one of many who don't.

I like the idea.

Pellandria · Post by **Pellandria** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:59 pm

The problem is:
"Hello ...I'm cxy" #i
"Hello there felllow, my name may be Dragonslayer ultrawarrior, nice to meet you"
"((can i get #i?))"
"((no))"
"cxy looks suspicous at the man "well you look like a thief do you?"

Lennier · Post by **Lennier** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:27 pm

#i is to introduce yourself
!name is to remember names of other chars, which do not use #i by whatever.

I do not see the sense here. Both commands are for different things. But i agree with something other: Noone should be threated to use #i.

Karl · Post by **Karl** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:44 pm

Lennier, what I mean is that it is only normal there is no #i command. I've played many other roleplaying games, where you can re-name someone as much as you want, and see his/her name like that.
I think at least the !name command or the 'Give Name' (right-click someone) command should be usable as many times as we want, even if we already used it on someone.. This way, those who want to play without the #i can do so.

From now on, I'll never use the #i command anymore, and encourage people to do the same. Who's in? Say no to #i!

Haniel Raynn · Post by **Haniel Raynn** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:46 pm

I'm with Karl. No more #i's for me. I had been using them less anyways. *shrugs*

Cassandra Fjurin · Post by **Cassandra Fjurin** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:49 pm

or we remove the whole introduce system and show anybody the real name.

Salathe · Post by **Salathe** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:53 pm

or give chars the ability to #i under any name they want

if your chars name is jonny and you dont want anyone to know, you could type "#i billy", and then other chars see you as billy, and will have no idea you gave them a fake name.

Yridia Anar · Post by **Yridia Anar** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:00 pm

I hope truly this system will stay

abcfantasy · Post by **abcfantasy** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:02 pm

I think it should stay as it is.

But the !name fact that you can type a word, right click a char and choose give name should be more encouraged.

Perhaps, in some startup tips?

Karl · Post by **Karl** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:03 pm

No Cassandra, the whole point here is to be able to give fake names with a hint convincing technicality. If no one ever uses the #i anymore, and everyone's has to 'Give Name' themselves, when someone gives a fake name, no one will be suspicious due to ooc reasons (e.g: online list, e.g: no #i)

Salathe · Post by **Salathe** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:18 pm

listen! its the perfect solution! If players are given the ability to introduce ANY name they want, then characters would have no idea if they are given a fake or real name. So there would be no meta gaming suspicion that the character is thief.

Then players can still !name people, you can #i your own name and you can #i "fake name". solves everything!

Theon · Post by **Theon** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:24 pm

I'd prefer if it was up to the other player to name you. It's their memory.

Karl · Post by **Karl** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:27 pm

Indeed.

Dariya · Post by **Dariya** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:28 pm

Karl wrote:Lennier, what I mean is that it is only normal there is no #i command. I've played many other roleplaying games, where you can re-name someone as much as you want, and see his/her name like that.
I think at least the !name command or the 'Give Name' (right-click someone) command should be usable as many times as we want, even if we already used it on someone.. This way, those who want to play without the #i can do so.

From now on, I'll never use the #i command anymore, and encourage people to do the same. Who's in? Say no to #i!

#me slaps Karl with a smelly trout

stop blackballing the #i-command and leave it to those who like to use it.

alright alright, I agree, being able to use the !name-command any time you wish to doesn't sound bad to me either, but leave your hands off the #i-command

*hides the innocent little #i-command behind her back, egdes backwards towards the door*

Tinuva Geogroda · Post by **Tinuva Geogroda** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:55 pm

Salathe wrote:listen! its the perfect solution! If players are given the ability to introduce ANY name they want, then characters would have no idea if they are given a fake or real name. So there would be no meta gaming suspicion that the character is thief.

Then players can still !name people, you can #i your own name and you can #i "fake name". solves everything!

Well, that sounds indeed good, it may be their memory, but it is YOU who introduces.

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:16 pm

Simple solution.
Tell them your fake name then ooc'ly tell them to !name you that.

FIN.

Tinuva Geogroda · Post by **Tinuva Geogroda** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:21 pm

Lance Thunnigan wrote:Simple solution.
Tell them your fake name then ooc'ly tell them to !name you that.

FIN.

.. this is an proposals page <.< that means the proposals that are placed here are placed here to change, minor/major, things.

Just say that you like this system we have now <.<

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:21 pm

Tinuva Geogroda wrote:
Lance Thunnigan wrote:Simple solution.
Tell them your fake name then ooc'ly tell them to !name you that.

FIN.
.. this is an proposals page <.< that means the proposals that are placed here are placed here to change, minor/major, things.

Just say that you like this system we have now <.<

Never.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:40 pm

I agree with this.

Chop it

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:16 pm

I agree with Salathe.

I think that #i Billy AS WELL AS !name would work well. BUT I also think there's room for abusing this.

Post by **Estralis Seborian** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:29 pm

!prefix YourFakeName ((
!suffix ))
#i

YourFakeName (( YourRealName ))

I guess this might yield what you need.

falco1029 · Post by **falco1029** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:33 pm

i Think the ability to #i whatever we want, like salathe said, would be good, just make it so #i checks for any text after the #i, and uses that for the name if its there, otherwise it uses the regular name.

Like
'#i Zen Culbad' would make people see my thief as his fake name
Whereas a regular #i without any other text and they'd see 'Cris Mikel Felko"

Arkath Mordrim · Post by **Arkath Mordrim** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:42 pm

Karl wrote:Lennier, what I mean is that it is only normal there is no #i command. I've played many other roleplaying games, where you can re-name someone as much as you want, and see his/her name like that.
I think at least the !name command or the 'Give Name' (right-click someone) command should be usable as many times as we want, even if we already used it on someone.. This way, those who want to play without the #i can do so.

From now on, I'll never use the #i command anymore, and encourage people to do the same. Who's in? Say no to #i!

You can !name someone as many times as you want. When you identify them type whatever !name123456789 Karl Marx123456789 this way when their name shows up it also has their number so later on you can go back and change it to this !name123456789 Smelly Trout123456789

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:47 pm

You can !name someone as many times as you want. When you identify them type whatever !name123456789 Karl Marx123456789 this way when their name shows up it also has their number so later on you can go back and change it to this !name123456789 Smelly Trout123456789[/quote]

You can give name but it DOESN'T SHOW THEIR NUMBER.

And this isn't what this is about. When you !name someone you ooc know that isn't their real name. If someone gives you a fake name, many people use the ooc knowledge to suspect them.

Arkath Mordrim · Post by **Arkath Mordrim** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:43 pm

AlexRose wrote:You can !name someone as many times as you want. When you identify them type whatever !name123456789 Karl Marx123456789 this way when their name shows up it also has their number so later on you can go back and change it to this !name123456789 Smelly Trout123456789

You can give name but it DOESN'T SHOW THEIR NUMBER.

And this isn't what this is about. When you !name someone you ooc know that isn't their real name. If someone gives you a fake name, many people use the ooc knowledge to suspect them.[/quote]

Dude, I used to have tons of people with lets say William Elderberry23528727 or Gort Greegog238479827. It used to let you the system still should unless they changed it.

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:47 pm

Arkath Mordrim wrote:
AlexRose wrote:You can !name someone as many times as you want. When you identify them type whatever !name123456789 Karl Marx123456789 this way when their name shows up it also has their number so later on you can go back and change it to this !name123456789 Smelly Trout123456789
You can give name but it DOESN'T SHOW THEIR NUMBER.

And this isn't what this is about. When you !name someone you ooc know that isn't their real name. If someone gives you a fake name, many people use the ooc knowledge to suspect them.

Dude, I used to have tons of people with lets say William Elderberry23528727 or Gort Greegog238479827. It used to let you the system still should unless they changed it.[/quote]

Oooh. Well anyway you're in a completely different topic?

This topic is about being able to lie about your name without people suspecting you ooc, not about changing !names.