Name of our River

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 8:53 pm

Since there's a few suggestions as to what to name our rivers in a previous thread, I thought I'd run a poll. Let's start with the river that runs between the tavern and the main streets of Troll's Bane.
I suppose you can still add suggestions if you like.

Randorr · Post by **Randorr** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:14 pm

Kringin · Post by **Kringin** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 1:42 am

Kringin scratches his head... uh well how about "Frozen Eternal"

, heh just kidding

How about "Saphire River"

I really dont favor half and i dont understand half so oh well

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 5:03 am

I guess I'll add Saphire River to the selection, although I'm not sure about the spelling.

Hermie · Post by **Hermie** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 9:01 am

Hmm ... I'm not so keen on any of the names, sorry

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 10:44 pm

Trolls Vein is a cool one

Lennier · Post by **Lennier** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 10:46 pm

Fairy's Tears!!

Adano Eles · Post by **Adano Eles** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 10:50 pm

I'm for Troll's Vein for the southern river. It just fits.

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 11:48 pm

I like Abhainn myself.

PS: I think it was meant to be "Saphire", but maybe not...

Drogla · Post by **Drogla** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 1:07 am

how about the Drogla River?
jsut joking. i really didnt see an appeling name. maybe something mroe...comemoritave of the most well known people?. take the d from Drogla, M from Mishrack, the Y from Dyluck, and letters from some other people. put them together for the name of the river=)
jsut my idea

Kathleen · Post by **Kathleen** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 4:40 am

I think Troll's Veine doesn't sound nice in a german translation...

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:02 am

Sorry but it's impossible for every name to sound good in both languages. I can't think of a way around this problem. Don't people of the other language call the town Troll's Bane instead of a direct translation in their language? I think they should just do that for the river's name as well.

Warmie · Post by **Warmie** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 7:10 am

Saphire river sounds the most pleasing to me

Cain Freemont · Post by **Cain Freemont** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 7:15 am

Hm..if only I could re-cast my vote as Sapphire River this time...DRAT.

Serpardum · Post by **Serpardum** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 7:17 am

well, can't you just think of a synonym for "vein" that Does sound good in german?

In english we coudl use:
Vein
vessel
arterie
etc..

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 7:20 am

I don't think those other synomyms would sound good in english though, and it doesn't have the same ring with Troll's Bane like Troll's Vein does.

Cain Freemont · Post by **Cain Freemont** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 7:23 am

But you see...if its a synonym...We could still call it Trolls Vein, and the German-speaking people could call it the german word for Arterie or Vessel...I mean sure, its a little different still...but I think what Serpardum is saying is that its a close compromise.

Serpardum · Post by **Serpardum** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 8:39 am

Exactly.

And if some german is very artistic perhaps they could think of a synonym for vein in german that was a rhyme for bane/vein.

English people would still call it Troll's Vein and the German would call it whatever it is that sounds better.

So I give this challenge: who can come up with a german synonym (meaning the same thing or close to the same thing) as vein that would sound good. For an added bonus, one that rhymes with bane/vein.

some (poor) examples.
Ader
Behalter
Arterie
Blut
Schiff ( a ship, which is a vessel, which is a vein... )
Boot ( a boat, which is a vessel which is a vein...)

Be creative.

Shi Long · Post by **Shi Long** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 8:48 am

I think there should be added another name to your poll. The river crosses the tavern? So why not "Drunken River" or "The Drunken One"...

Just my thoughts.

Adano Eles · Post by **Adano Eles** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 9:22 am

For the Germans:

Als Übersetzung für "Troll's Vein" könnte man doch "Trollader" annehmen. Das hat zwar nicht mehr den Reim auf "Troll's Bane", aber es klingt brauchbar.

Sun Long · Post by **Sun Long** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 11:39 am

Why should we translate it at all? We don't do it with Troll's Bane, so why with Troll's Vein?
I like the rhyme of Bane and Vein, and I also like the sense of it. The river is floating through the town just like a vein, a vein of life.
I think, it's the only right name for it.

Sir Giandor · Post by **Sir Giandor** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 12:41 pm

Leider vermag ich nicht in englisch zu schreiben. Vielleicht mag es wer übersetzten.
Ich denke daß Trolls Vane zwar passend, doch ein recht grausamer Name ist, erinnert er mich doch an das viele Blut, das immer wieder sinnlos vergossen wird. Vielleicht fällt die Entscheidung auf einen weniger traurigen Namen.

Sun Long · Post by **Sun Long** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 1:18 pm

Sir Giandor said:
I think that Trolls Vein is a suitably, but a quite cruel name, reminding me of much blood, which is poured senselessly again and again. Perhaps the decision falls on a less sad name.

Dear Sir Giandor,
don't see only the negativ side.
Could you live without a vein? Can Troll's Bane live without water?
It's spending life for everyone.The fisherman lives from what they catch, the mill doesn't work without water and we druids need the water for mixing our drinks.
I think, that's all very positiv, isn't it?

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Mon Jan 06, 2003 12:08 am

Yes, this is the image that the name Troll's Vein is supposed to create, the feeling that the river is a very important part of our lives and survival that we can't live without, because it brings us water and fish.

Bumbol Woodstock · Post by **Bumbol Woodstock** » Mon Jan 06, 2003 1:31 am

i cant wait til i am born unto this world and can drink from the Trolls vein (my choice).

Sir Giandor · Post by **Sir Giandor** » Mon Jan 06, 2003 1:37 am

I see. I was wrong. I agree with Trolls Vane. And thx for your translation.

treason · Post by **treason** » Mon Jan 06, 2003 1:06 pm

@sun
yery true. theres absolutly no need in translating that name. the use of english terms is pretty common in our german language.

Serpardum · Post by **Serpardum** » Mon Jan 06, 2003 2:16 pm

Hmm.. does that make the name of our main street
Troll's Main?
Or Troll's Lane?

And Niniane... is she a
Troll's Dame?

And of course that makes King (Monarch) of the Roof a
Troll's Game.

Of are all these rhymes just a
Troll's Pain.

Cain Freemont · Post by **Cain Freemont** » Mon Jan 06, 2003 3:37 pm

So good to see you are feeling downright poetic Serpardum

treason · Post by **treason** » Mon Jan 06, 2003 7:13 pm

a artist like you has truely earned Troll's Fame.
but none knows about the peotic site of yours.. thats Troll's Shame

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