Gemcutting new skills - Should effect gem value dramatically

Serpardum · Post by **Serpardum** » Tue Dec 31, 2002 11:28 am

The skill "gemcutting" has been implemented per player request.

Some gems are relatively easy to make (blackstone) and some gems are extemly difficult to make (Diamonds) with the rest falling between the extremes.

Eliza will pay a little more for the rarer gems, not a lot, just a little.

This should very soon impact both gem and ring prices.

This should bring in a new profession, gemcutter.

Cosmaterra · Post by **Cosmaterra** » Tue Dec 31, 2002 11:38 am

Translation
Übersetzung

Ab heute wird der Skill "Edelsteinschürfer" eingeführt.

Einige Edelsteine sind recht einfach zu bekommen (zb, Schwarzstein) andere eher nicht (zb.Diamant) der Rest fällt irgendwo zwischen die Beiden extreme.

Eliza (shop) wird in Zukunft für die schweren zu findenten Steine ein wenig mehr zahlen.

Das sollte früher oder später zu einer neuen Preisklasse bei Ringen und Edelsteinen verhelfen.

Ausserdem sollte es einen neuen Beruf geben, Edelsteinschürfer.

Cain Freemont · Post by **Cain Freemont** » Tue Dec 31, 2002 11:52 am

Okay! This one is far too easy to rant against...so I will be brief. Serpardum..you said that this will allow another profession, gemcutter. Do you really think people are going to entrust their raw gems (now hard to refine) to some guy who says, "yeah, Im a gem cutter...uhh I will do it real cheap"..? I know that it is a safe community..but without a safe trade system, people just wont do it!

Yours,

Serpardum · Post by **Serpardum** » Tue Dec 31, 2002 12:03 pm

This is kinda funny, actually. Raw gems are now more valuable because the finished gems are more vuluable, but it not takes MORE raw gems to make one gem, so logically raw gems should be worth LESS.

Price and demand is just so hard to figure out

I trade with people all the time. I trade with people for many silvers worth of things. I've traded for over 25 silver in one transaction actually (a whole lot of gold nuggets).

The act of adding another artificually valuable item to the game, gems, shouldn't have anything to do with trade mechanics. Gem prices for Eliza are not that significantly increased. Gems are only going to be more valuable to players.

I don't quite get the point of your post.

Are you saying we shouldn't have very valuable items in the game because they might get stolen in a transaction?

Or are you stating that my comment about a new profession being created, gemcutter, is wrong because no one would trade with them?

Or are you simply stating that you want a secure trade?

Turnupto · Post by **Turnupto** » Tue Dec 31, 2002 12:07 pm

And all the gems the char got yet dissapear?

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Tue Dec 31, 2002 12:09 pm

I'm not so sure that this will increase the value of gems dramatically, in the sense that there's not that many people who will need to buy them anyways because there aren't that many goldsmiths right now, and most of them have mined and cut their own gems already anyways.

Serpardum · Post by **Serpardum** » Tue Dec 31, 2002 12:15 pm

True, Dyluck.

If the game were wiped, and we were all starting over, everything would all have different prices and things would be a lot more valuable.

But I think there are probably more goldsmiths than you think, just not master goldsmiths. Goldsmithing is actually fairly easy if you can afford the nuggets. Although, at present, it is generally not a profession that pays for itself, and is taken as more of a hobby.

Most of the miners/blacksmiths are goldsmiths of some repute.

As most players have some stock of items (I have a stock of rings being a goldsmith, as do other people I sold them to, and others made and sold) and some a rather large stock, prices are not going to be change dramatically immediately, but they should change a little immediately.

If you have a large stock of rings, and someone comes up to you and wants to buy one, are you going to sell it for the "old" price, knowing that it's now more valuable, even if not to you?

And, yes, this may make some people artificually wealthy.

I simply did this because players asked for it and wanted it, after asking the other GMs of course.

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Tue Dec 31, 2002 12:32 pm

Well, eventually a lot of current players should cease to exist and a new wave of characters will come who won't find it quite so easy to obtain gems, but they won't have that much goldnuggets either so I don't think they'll demand for gems that much. I guess the increased profit will just come from Eliza, or maybe another use in the future.

Adano Eles · Post by **Adano Eles** » Tue Dec 31, 2002 1:12 pm

Die Übersetzung ist nicht ganz richtig, Cosma. Es geht nicht um das "Schürfen" von Edelsteinen, sondern das "Schleifen" derselben. Die Idee dafür stammte von mir, weil ich einfach das Gefühl hatte, dass es nicht richtig ist, wenn sich Steine so ganz von allein schleifen. Im wahren Leben gehört dazu eine Menge Geschick und Erfahrung.

Thoram Steinfaust · Post by **Thoram Steinfaust** » Tue Dec 31, 2002 3:25 pm

good work serpardum, there are no thrown away gems. can you make the same with fishes and herbs?

Callysto · Post by **Callysto** » Tue Dec 31, 2002 5:03 pm

Excellent idea, can there be a poisoning skill too?

Salathe · Post by **Salathe** » Wed Jan 01, 2003 5:34 pm

well actually, i made 1050 gold selling gems the day teh new skill was implemented

Vincente Squee · Post by **Vincente Squee** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 11:44 pm

this is a intersting skill. gem cutting? Hmmmmm, well its hard to cut gems and its hard to get your skill up , due to the 10x skill gain system. i belive this skill you be good for the game and have people not taking things for granted as much

Kringin · Post by **Kringin** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 3:10 am

yay, something good is finally happening

, even though i still cant play yet it sounds nice. Thank you serpardum

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 3:34 am

I'm a gem miner....luckily i turned some of my raw ones into processed ones before this and the account system thing(couldnt log in). So now what will i do

Tialdin · Post by **Tialdin** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 11:38 am

This Skill is a very good idea, for my part i don t will learn this Skill, because i am Goldsmith and not Gemcutter.

Master of the 4444 Rings, Tialdin

Hermie · Post by **Hermie** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 12:07 pm

I don't know why people are complaining about the job, all you do is sell raw gems to someone who is a gem cutter, you sell them for say 2 or 3 gold and they can cut them with their skill and make 6g or more per gem making a prophit, it will just take a bit of time for gem cutters to get good at cutting gems.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 1:47 am

Alright im a gem miner and im not enjoying this lol

But I had like 25 raw gems and I got like 6 that came out

Cain Freemont · Post by **Cain Freemont** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 4:11 am

Lucky you FooserJohn....

I cut 25 gems recently and only got 3 out of it!

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 4:54 pm

oh...

(stops complaining)

Sir Gannon · Post by **Sir Gannon** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 6:40 pm

I guess im doing better than all of you. Hehe I cut 50 or so and got back about 13

Serpardum · Post by **Serpardum** » Mon Jan 06, 2003 12:26 am

Remember, some gems are easier to cut then others.

If you cut 25 blackstones, you should get roughly 6 cut gems with no skill.
If you cut 25 diamonds, you will be lucky to get 1.

The rest fall in between.

The higher your skill, the better you get.

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Gemcutting new skills - Should effect gem value dramatically

Gemcutting new skills - Should effect gem value dramatically

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