Suggestion about #me's in whisper mode.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:29 am

I believe that, when we make a #me while in whispering mode, the action is then only seen by those at a range of two tiles.

What I would suggest, is that this action be visible for the same distance that when we are not in whisper mode.

Simply because action such as :

#me points to the man
#me throws a mug of beer
#me says in a loud tone "hey you bastard"

Cant really be a 2 tile things, and some people (in fact a lot) do not know that making a #me while in whisper mode makes it only visible to those close to them, it can make other people miss out a lot of different #me's.

What do you think?

swish1 · Post by **swish1** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:08 am

Uhm..
Well, I like the idea..
But, they DEVS are too busy..
Do this..

#w *chucks a beer at the man

You get the idea..

Azuros · Post by **Azuros** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:11 am

He was asking to make it so that it -doesn't- whisper the emote

swish1 · Post by **swish1** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:14 am

Azuros wrote:He was asking to make it so that it -doesn't- whisper the emote

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
*light bulb lights up on swish's head

Lance Thunnigan · Post by **Lance Thunnigan** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:15 am

That wan't necessary

Achae Eanstray · Post by **Achae Eanstray** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:40 am

Either that, or have the lettering lighter so that whisper emote is obvious would be fine with me.

Asesino · Post by **Asesino** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:47 am

Just don't use the modes but the stuff like :

#w#me
#me
#w

ect...only problem Is when you forget to do them

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:26 am

Call me a n00b, but i never heard about this one before...

Someone explain to me what it does?

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:31 am

Well don't use whisper toggle button, n00b. Use #w. I never use toggle.

Nop · Post by **Nop** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:16 am

swish1 wrote:Uhm..
Well, I like the idea..
But, they DEVS are too busy..

#me drops a piano on swish1

Now who exactly entitled you to speak for the devs?

I like the idea and it is included in the next client version.

Arien Edhel · Post by **Arien Edhel** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:18 am

Asesino wrote: #w#me

Nonsense.
Every can see if you're acting. No need to whispers this.

Nop · Post by **Nop** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:18 am

AlexRose12345678910 wrote:Well don't use whisper toggle button, n00b. Use #w. I never use toggle.

Great advice. Why do you think the toggle modes were included into the new client, you noob? In order not to use them?

Misjbar · Post by **Misjbar** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:21 am

I think a lot of old players still stick to just #w.

Rumil Togrin · Post by **Rumil Togrin** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:35 am

I always use #w and #o unless I plan on speaking in whispers for an extended period of time.

I like Achae's idea, though...make the whispered #me's a lighter color...or darker in this case since the yellow is already almost too bright....to make it obvious that they are whispered and not spoken for the whole town to hear.

Retlak · Post by **Retlak** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:43 am

I think its absolutely rubbish to make it outloud.

Lets say a bandit mugs someone, they will use the whisper #me when inside a building to theive the person.

Then some prat walks past and hears the #me's, and just so happens to walk to the scene of a crime, and catch the person. Happens all the time.

As it is right now is perfect. The people far away have absolutely no reason to see the actions from through walls etc.

Rumil Togrin · Post by **Rumil Togrin** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:47 am

That is exactly what having a different shade for the whispered #me's would fix...

It would tell a person whether they are whispering their #me's or not...so if they are accidentally shouting them, they can fix it if they need to, or if they are trying to #me across the room, they will notice that their #me's are only being whispered...

Other than that, I don't see anything that needs to change with this...just a confirmation that it actually is a whispered #me and not a spoken one would be comforting many times, though...

Hadre Taliset · Post by **Hadre Taliset** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:03 pm

Achae Eanstray wrote:Either that, or have the lettering lighter so that whisper emote is obvious would be fine with me.

yeah this is good for me. I have been playing for like 7 months now and didn't know that if you did #me in wisper it would show up for people only two tiles away. Wait... does this mean if you do an emot in yelling it will show up really far away? If so, just color code them.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:05 pm

#s means that lots of people will see it
#w means that only those two tyles away will.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:31 pm

Well, I say we just do like I suggested, that all #me's have the same distance. If you want to make actions visible to only the people close to you, there is always the possibility to type :

#w *grabs the man and drag him while holding his mouth*

Isnt there?

Retlak · Post by **Retlak** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:34 pm

That sucks, and more work for devs, its fine as it is. If you whisper #me's without knowing then your a retard

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:41 pm

No, not everyone reads the forum, and long distance or close distance #me's are the same colour, I would think that MOST players didnt know that #meing in whisper mode was only 2 tiles, I personally didnt only last week.

Retlak · Post by **Retlak** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:59 pm

Then change the colour of the #me's, not the whole system. then everyone is happy.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:03 pm

Hrm, I dont think we would need to change 'the whole system' I believe it would be very easy to fix, didnt Nop say it was already implemented in the next update?

Retlak · Post by **Retlak** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:12 pm

Great, so many opportunities will be gone.

How many times is it that someone might "#me draws his sword to the mans throat" behind a brick wall, and then the guy going past magically runs back into the building.

ALWAYS happens. Although i guess people could just whisper *blah blah* but its just.. so much more annoying and pointless.

Rumil Togrin · Post by **Rumil Togrin** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:23 pm

I have a question.....WHAT are you arguing about?!?!?! These two posts solve the problem! There's no more discussion needed!

Rumil Togrin wrote:I like Achae's idea, though...make the whispered #me's a lighter color...or darker in this case since the yellow is already almost too bright....to make it obvious that they are whispered and not spoken for the whole town to hear.

Rumil Togrin wrote:That is exactly what having a different shade for the whispered #me's would fix...

It would tell a person whether they are whispering their #me's or not...so if they are accidentally shouting them, they can fix it if they need to, or if they are trying to #me across the room, they will notice that their #me's are only being whispered...

Other than that, I don't see anything that needs to change with this...just a confirmation that it actually is a whispered #me and not a spoken one would be comforting many times, though...

Simpleminded dimwits that don't even realize when a problem is solved alre......Oh, I'm sorry. Am I still talking out loud?

Retlak · Post by **Retlak** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:40 pm

The problem is not solved yet, though ideas are the same as mine.

I am however arguing with Arameh why he is such a n00b.

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:44 pm

Nop wrote:
AlexRose12345678910 wrote:Well don't use whisper toggle button, n00b. Use #w. I never use toggle.
Great advice. Why do you think the toggle modes were included into the new client, you noob? In order not to use them?

Frankly I think using the older options is less noobish than using the NEW options (new-noob) wouldn't you agree?

Rumil Togrin · Post by **Rumil Togrin** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:45 pm

Arameh wrote:No, not everyone reads the forum, and long distance or close distance #me's are the same colour, I would think that MOST players didnt know that #meing in whisper mode was only 2 tiles, I personally didnt only last week.

People would not need to "read the forum" as you said if the shades were different. And I agree....I didn't know that #me's could be whispered, but that, as I said, would be fixed by shading the whispered #me's.

Rumil Togrin · Post by **Rumil Togrin** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:49 pm

AlexRose12345678910 wrote:Frankly I think using the older options is less noobish than using the NEW options (new-noob) wouldn't you agree?

No, I would not agree. I find the insert toggle very useful if I am planning to type a fair number of whispered lines. It saves time of typing, but most importantly, ensures that you never accidentally end up with the infamous 3w's instead of the #w that you intended.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:08 pm

Yeah I like the talking modes, whisper mode acually is very useful for a long whispering convo, but with the current system if you want others to see your #me's you need to change it back to normal, #me and then put it back to whisper mode, thats why we dont use the modes much now :/