Newbie treatment / Newbiebehandlung

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:41 pm

I agree, it actually was also testing if the player was able to make the effort if typing a story, and if he was able to type without using l33t text, really, it was more useful than it seemed to be.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:04 pm

What I fail to understand is this:

The GMs did research on how we act towards n00bs... and discovered that we're maltreating them right? SO the solution is simply to increase the n00b population? I THINK that its doing somethign illogical... don't you think?

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:11 pm

You correlate these two actions together? How did you come to that?

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:17 pm

Cliu Beothach wrote:You correlate these two actions together? How did you come to that?

Same thread

No but, seriously; it happened in the same week (or so), so i doubt that they're totally seperate...

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:22 pm

But someone not on the staff brought it up. The player count has always wanted to increase, atleast I believe it is a goal for the staff.

martin · Post by **martin** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:28 pm

Hadrian_Abela wrote:The GMs did research on how we act towards n00bs... and discovered that we're maltreating them right?

None of your points is correct.

We never did "research" on how someone treats new players. That is utter nonsense and it's really sad that this is the picture you got.

*I* made a new character to check out what Illa looks like for a newbie, and accidently I run into a troublesome situation. There was never a "plan" to examine that, nor did we start "research" on that field. I was not testing someone, I was testing something, and just once and just me.

And I didn't discover that "you're" maltreating them, I discovered that some people acted... strange towards me, while others behaved rather friendly and were really helpful.

Martin

Edit: These two things have nothing to do with eachother.
We planned to drop the AS since about 6 months, now we just did it.

Hu'greu · Post by **Hu'greu** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:33 pm

when I joined illarion most people took the time to help me out in finding stuff out, But I also RP the situation I wanted to know as well. I think the way players handle new people is very well.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:39 pm

Damien wrote:Lately, a few staff members entered the game with new characters, pretending to be newbies.

Martin wrote:and just once and just me.

Paradox ^

We will from now on log in to test from time to time.

The above gave me that impression... thanks for clearing it up martin...

martin · Post by **martin** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:04 pm

"A few" is simply an exeggeration.

It was me and it was not meant to be biological spyware.

Martin

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:03 pm

martin wrote:it was not meant to be biological spyware.

Martin

Hope this doesn't offend anyone :

nmaguire · Post by **nmaguire** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:21 pm

FrankWayne wrote:when I joined illarion most people took the time to help me out in finding stuff out, But I also RP the situation I wanted to know as well. I think the way players handle new people is very well.

I totally agree. I was treated well when I joined, and had no problems really.

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:30 pm

@ Hadrian

i find that utterly amusing. i really hope Martin doesn't kill you in the face

it seems to me that the newbies feel they're being treated well, who better to ask then they themselves, instead of going from situation to situation.

banning does sound way harsh though. something only for problem peoples. and not for being unfriendly but for abusing Newbies ignorance.

but come on tell me you've never thrown a noob through a portal. if thats part of the case then i think a good third of the staff and the latter portion of the quest team just got banned. (myself included

maybe even some of the Devs

)

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:06 pm

That description is wrong, Martin doesnt need to "pretend"

Delakaniam · Post by **Delakaniam** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:10 am

Athian wrote:but come on tell me you've never thrown a noob through a portal. if thats part of the case then i think a good third of the staff and the latter portion of the quest team just got banned. (myself included maybe even some of the Devs )

Criminy... that's SO MEAN

.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:14 am

Oh crap, I will get banned too

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:46 am

its not mean, it's Humane

Deinarious · Post by **Deinarious** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:01 am

@Hadrian and Athian-

Gods you two crack me up!

Delakaniam · Post by **Delakaniam** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:52 am

Athian wrote:its not mean, it's Humane

Human like kicking an abandoned stray down a drain pipe during a flood ;P .

swish1 · Post by **swish1** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:03 am

O M G where have I been? Wait let me get this straight... Your not going to make newbees write stories? How do you know a 8 year old wont sign up and ruin all of our rp. We really need the story to see their role playing. Sure maybe we had get more players but...

PS It is not fair to us. You know how long I spent preparing my story making everything perfect so I pass in the first try, reading moonsilver, forum, rules, asking my friend what this game is about, about rping and making sure punctuation is correct. But now New Bees have it easy.

I really hope you reconsider.

Did everyone just ignore my earlier post on this topic? Third Page, half page.

Delakaniam · Post by **Delakaniam** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:08 am

swish1 wrote:O M G where have I been? Wait let me get this straight... Your not going to make newbees write stories? How do you know a 8 year old wont sign up and ruin all of our rp. We really need the story to see their role playing. Sure maybe we had get more players but...

PS It is not fair to us. You know how long I spent preparing my story making everything perfect so I pass in the first try, reading moonsilver, forum, rules, asking my friend what this game is about, about rping and making sure punctuation is correct. But now New Bees have it easy.

I really hope you reconsider.

Wheewwwwww, you are late. Pretty damn late, actually XD . For being an active player at the moment, at least.

I would continue this post further on the topic, but my opinion about your opinion version on this is in an earlier post that isn't too far back, I believe. Therefore, be enlightened or be lazy. Sadly, I have a prediction for which you'll probably go with, but I'll try not to make assumptions.

Hu'greu · Post by **Hu'greu** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:34 am

swish dont feel bad i was well on my third page writting my story with a whole lot more to go. (i was acually going to submit an excert instead of writing the whole thing thats how big i planed my story to be), But some people are not the best story teller but still can role play really well. I know im lacking in the grammar department, which is why an orc is the best character for me to play. The story kinda shuts off the people that like to play average joes kinda of guys like soliders and stuff while the people that can write really good stories like to play main characters in the plot of illarion. All im really say is give us a chance to show if we can RP good or not, you might run into a few people that think this game is going to be like runescape first, but all you really need to do is keep a log and try to tell them they need to RP and if they refuse to do that just report them on the forums for Bad RP and a GM will take care of it.

swish1 · Post by **swish1** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:52 am

Thanks Frank. But they are not going to like more if I report them. That is not my point to report them or get them in trouble. All I want them to do is RP. Not only me but plenty of New Bees have the same problem that I face. Its okay I have people like Dusty, Taliss, Sess'th, William, Zharrukal.... I just wish people would not take OCC into consideration when they are RPing.

Wait what do you mean you were writing a story? You mean your story how people made fun of you when you were a New Bee. And for the person above *points two threads above What do you mean prediction?

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:01 am

Definately Damien was trying to steal Martins thunder, but what else is to be expected?
Okay, definately the new system is going to be a test of wills but for everyone to just throw in the towel before the fight even begins is pathetic. Give this a chance, now we see if the "A line in the Sand" thread everone eagerly signed actually holds weight or was just simply to sign to gripe about how noobs are mistreated. Take action and be a leader among this community, not just another overrated roleplayer who takes their talents at playing an online game far to seriously.

Hu'greu · Post by **Hu'greu** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:05 am

no swish for the account application when the still had them. I was about 2 pages away from finsihing my excert from my story that I was going to put in the application

swish1 · Post by **swish1** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:17 am

oh I get it now. Okay but did you read this topic third page. Everyone seems to ignore my example.

Dónal Mason · Post by **Dónal Mason** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:18 am

Perhaps it's because it isn't actually all that interesting.

Korm Kormsen · Post by **Korm Kormsen** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:27 pm

forget it, swish!

you write it, everybody else ignores it, thats, what people call comunicating...

Miklorius · Post by **Miklorius** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:28 pm

Hmm... I would only deactivate the character authorization (not the whole thing) until the "tutorial island" is ready. But now it's done. Hello, half-finished features...

PS: Props at Hadrian_Abela - LOL!

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:43 pm

already met one character named swordblade. exactly how do i rp with someone named after an item?

Loralyn · Post by **Loralyn** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:08 pm

You will see on wednesday that Swordblade is no longer a character name problem. Oh yes, you will see.

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