The New Fighting system

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:43 am

Agreed. I've seen mummies take off 1/8th of my health with 2 hits

Yet healing rate seems faster as well

Crothu Inkathurg · Post by **Crothu Inkathurg** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:46 am

I got this skill called wrestling that i didn't know you could have before. Is it new with the new fighting system?

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:54 am

Wrestling = unarmed combat...

Markous · Post by **Markous** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:54 am

Crothu Inkathurg wrote:I got this skill called wrestling that i didn't know you could have before. Is it new with the new fighting system?

Indeed. Fighting with hands.

Crothu Inkathurg · Post by **Crothu Inkathurg** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:56 am

Thats what i thought.

Crothu Inkathurg · Post by **Crothu Inkathurg** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:07 am

I know these skills so far.

Dodge
Parry
Slashing Weapons
Puncture Weapons
Concussion Weapons
Tactics
Wrestling
Anymore that i don't know about?

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:16 am

Hmm....now i dont ever hit any players, and they hit me easily, its like Arameh became very clumsy. Retlak pwns me, and it was the opposite before, i find it very strange.

Urilen Quanasuard · Post by **Urilen Quanasuard** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:25 am

Retlak said he had high intelligence... maybe that is it?

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:05 am

forgot poisoning on that list there.

Crothu Inkathurg · Post by **Crothu Inkathurg** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:09 am

How do you get that? And thanks

Pocal · Post by **Pocal** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:10 am

Use poisoned weapons.

Crothu Inkathurg · Post by **Crothu Inkathurg** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:13 am

I know that..What kinds of poisoned weapons are there. Are they any good?

Pocal · Post by **Pocal** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:24 am

find out IG.

Sate · Post by **Sate** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:42 am

UGG! I'm hating this new system. Sorry, but I have to take special routes around the desert now becuase, even with 19 Constitution, I can get poisoned and die with it at full health.

Mummies pwn my character now, Pigs take 4 hits with an exelent warhammer, two fly swarms mean a good chunk of HP gone, and Bandits are as impossible as the rest.

I have to train on flies and pigs again?

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:47 am

Well, the new fighting system made weak fighters, weaker, and stronger fighters, stronger, as simple as that. Tactic is an essencial skill now, no one has it, and this is why NPCs seems overpowered, just keep training, and dont use excellent stuff on pigs ^^

Gabon Corad · Post by **Gabon Corad** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:49 am

haha Ara didnt amke stronger fighters stronger because Gabon seems much weaker than he did before

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:51 am

Arameh too, he is a sissy now ^^. I dont know why, i talk for the main part. Mainly, strong got stronger weak got weaker. But some strong fighters got much weaker, strangely. Arameh by example, gets beaten easily by Retlak, it was the opposite before, and even when i wear better stuff. You say youre weaker too Gabon, thats possible, i think its because of a certain stat, maybe dexterity, or agility, who now makes the whole difference..

Kl'urk · Post by **Kl'urk** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:53 am

Same with Kl'urk. He was a good fighter before the server change. He was a dangerous opponent. Now he is a weak joke. He loses easily against the other fighters. He don't even hit them, since their high skilled dodge protects them better than ever before! A warrior in heavy metal armor dodges from 10 hits often 7. That is a joke!

And Kl'urk can't become better. I duelled with light weapons for minutes with Berengar, who has his skills maxed. I reached my skillcap. But in two duels with him, i only got one time a skillraise! But I am still too weak to be any threat for him.

The new fighting systhem needs many changes. First one: Take dodge completlty from every warrior fighting in metal armor more heavy than chain or light elven armor. Everything else is just stupid.

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:54 am

it's because *stuff* acts differently now. for those of you not paying attention. you can lose in elven silversteel to a person wearing armor half as good. basically you'll have to relearn the system and try to balance out your character. no one will be invincible and alot of people you used to beat easily may now take actual effort.

Kl'urk · Post by **Kl'urk** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:57 am

It is the same with both using same armor and weapons

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:57 am

I think it is because agility or dexterity got too much needed now, i also dosent hit anything. Sometimes i wear my best armor kit, and i lose before even hitting my opponent, i means wtf. And yes...peoples still dodges in heavy armors.

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:00 am

well theres still some things to be balanced out no doubt. i'm sure theres little things that arne't spoken that matter

p.s. somehow i find this ironically pleasing. no more overpowered fighters

Kl'urk · Post by **Kl'urk** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:02 am

In pvp there are still overpowered fighters. Like Berengar and Salathe. Salathe kills Kl'urk with 4-5 strokes. Kl'urks attacks he dodges and parry easily. And Kl'urk has yellow parry and slashing.

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:03 am

Stephen can pwn arameh in 3 hits .. i reckon he may be strongest fighter now.
I do agree, stephen is wearing elven silversteel armour, greaves, steel boots, helm and gloves. His dodge is at 115 (old client) which is mediocre but he can still dodge a helluva lot. He shouldn't be dodging this much.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:04 am

Overpowered fighters?? Retlak hit me 3 times, i had maybe 2% healt, i coulnt see my bar, he succeds hitting me each time strangely.

Gabon Corad · Post by **Gabon Corad** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:05 am

i dont understand how you got Dodge that high in the first place...i have had dodge for just about as long as i have had parry and slashing and mine is still the darkest blue...people say it goes up on its own but i sure havent seen any changes over the long period of time i have played Gabon

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:05 am

oh well we can just blindly assume the orcs are being helped again by gms

Gabon Corad · Post by **Gabon Corad** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:06 am

then why dont i get any of this help? and Gms never helped us when i was leader of the Shadow horde...if thats what your talking about

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:06 am

parry i have seen. mostly i see fighters parry eachother in duels. dodge i hardly see as often. as i said there must be some reason that some are strong and some are weak just have to figure it out. maybe a Dev will grace us with some answers.

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:06 am

concerning dodge, towards the last 3 weeks i discovered battling with shields ended up giving you more dodge. I don't know if that is still true with the new fighting system.
Also fighting people who use puncture weaponry such as rapiers would probably force your character to dodge the thin weapon rather then parry. Also being hit by distance weapons i assume raising dodge, but well, dont make sense to let an archer shoot at you now does it ...