Bad roleplay

Vulcha · Post by **Vulcha** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:36 pm

Yeah dont you think it's bad roleplay for a group of dwarves including mine, killing Ghorn and his followers for the crown (dont comment on this) but then the king and stuff still believe they had won even though the 'traitors' are still locked in Silverbrand!

Keikan Hiru · Post by **Keikan Hiru** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:41 pm

No, I don't think so.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:42 pm

I think the RP sucks in general, it seems some people believe they need to push an OOC viewpoint and agenda with a character, and it is extremely pathetic, and there is far too much of it in Illarion right now.

Misjbar · Post by **Misjbar** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:47 pm

Fooser wrote:I think the RP sucks in general, it seems some people believe they need to push an OOC viewpoint and agenda with a character, and it is extremely pathetic, and there is far too much of it in Illarion right now.

What are you talking about exactly? Elaborating might be nice. n__n

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 5:04 pm

The whole "you're inactive (even though you're not) so I'm going to take you out with one of my characters" thing. That's like me saying there are too many elf characters IG, so I'm going to rampage them, it's BS. Tialdin was accused IC of being in Silverbrand I believe once per year. Here's a question: Where is he the rest of the year? LoL, (downtime anyone?) All of those dwarf characters are horribly played, most haven't even been IG a while, there seems to be a potion chugging problem again, and calling for votes is stupid for dwarves, which Markous pointed out in that topic. How many dwarven presidents have you seen? They have Kings, that's what they do.

Faladron · Post by **Faladron** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 5:05 pm

I think it sucks that dwarves that came to this island and generally start with nothing, no reputation, nothing, now start to claim a city that others build before for themselves.

That's not much more than robbery in my eyes and something honest dwarves wouldn't do if they'd realy fight for a righteous and prosper town.

Yeah right, they had nothing to do with the town before anyway so why bother now and demand something you have no right upon?

The only two citizens involved are Belgram and Durgin, the others.. played for some weeks, didn't bother to apply for citizenship to become part of the town but now want to seize it for themselves.

That's reasonable? I think not

EDIT:

Bow to the Fooser for his words are right and true.

Ghorn · Post by **Ghorn** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 5:15 pm

No it isn't since the traitors just won through the use of potions in the middle of fighting. unfair behaviour never leads to victorys and success.

Dónal Mason · Post by **Dónal Mason** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 5:27 pm

Both sides suck, so you can BOTH stop complaining.

Misjbar · Post by **Misjbar** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:02 pm

To all those viewing this topic, please ignore Donal. He is probably going through one of his "oh god I have a soul and I cannot handle it"-periods. His opinion is irrelevant, and based on biased opinions, not facts. And those opinions stem from himself, which makes them void (in Donal's case). I wish for once Donal would add something good to a thread.

Post by **Estralis Seborian** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:23 pm

I love you all. Both sides complain, both sides had no fun. Hell, you are all in the same team, play the same game to have fun and not to "win". This game is about social interaction in a fantasy enviroment, one cannot "win" in social interacting. You can only lose.

And both sides did.

Belgram · Post by **Belgram** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:28 pm

I had alot of fun. I enjoy role playing although don't enjoy the OOC moaning about Gms and such while playing. Overall I had fun, though.

Misjbar · Post by **Misjbar** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:49 pm

Same here.

Zach Bora · Post by **Zach Bora** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:17 pm

I was thinking this morning that one of the two could be King while the other is not on (timezone thingy) but I just remembered they are dwarves and they wouldn't want to share power.

It wouldn't be the first time (first time in Illarion tho) there's two king ruling one kingdom.

Ghorn · Post by **Ghorn** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:19 pm

um, please give me examples of past times where two kings ruled one kingdom. that would really interest me.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:22 pm

Ghorn wrote:um, please give me examples of past times where two kings ruled one kingdom. that would really interest me.

The Roman Empire when it was split?

Post by **Estralis Seborian** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:23 pm

Sparta (source: MS Encarta)

Edit: Aye, roman empire was also ruled (before it was splitted into west-rome and east-rome!) by two con-caesars from time to time. Refer to your local history book.

Misjbar · Post by **Misjbar** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:23 pm

Hadrian_Abela wrote:
Ghorn wrote:um, please give me examples of past times where two kings ruled one kingdom. that would really interest me.
The Roman Empire when it was split?

Nu uh. The second it split it became two kingdoms.

Misjbar · Post by **Misjbar** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:25 pm

Monarchie

Eigenaardig is dat Sparta tot in de klassieke tijd geregeerd werd door koningen, waar in vrijwel alle andere Griekse stadstaten de monarchie was verdwenen. Bovendien regeerden er steeds twee koningen gelijktijdig. Hun werkelijke politieke macht was echter niet erg groot.

Translation of the last sentence: "Their true political power however wasn't great."

Salathe · Post by **Salathe** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:55 pm

what i find annoying is how PO stephen is again involved in a feud with silverbrand using the same arguement his char jacob use, with stephen. That to me seems pretty much the same idea as getting killed on one char, then getting on a stronger one and killing whoever got you

And i have to agree with fooser on this.

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:09 pm

Bloody accusations with no proof. Salathe, my roleplay reasons behind both events involved more roleplay then your entire gaming experience.
Thank you for future accusations.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:21 pm

Hadrian_Abela wrote:
Ghorn wrote:um, please give me examples of past times where two kings ruled one kingdom. that would really interest me.
The Roman Empire when it was split?

Yeah and it is because the roman empire was split that it got teared off right after in a few years.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:23 pm

The west went down, the east existed for another 1,000 years.

Errian Abêth · Post by **Errian Abêth** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:58 pm

It would be just goony to elect two kings who have the same rights. They would be no kings anymore.

No politician would ever elect or accept another one beside him who has same rights and power and

a. different interests.

b. the power to become the only one who rules.

Nilo · Post by **Nilo** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:01 am

I say silverbrand blow up :p that'd solve it.

haha, I don't think we should discuss the RP about all of this. It was indeed bad on both sides, and both sides are now angery. We should let the OOC about the ordeal subside, and actually focus on the RP.

And, i'd hope that if there are future battles, people don't start talking in OOC in the middle of it, like they did this one.....

Nilo

Josefine da Vince · Post by **Josefine da Vince** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:31 am

Well, not being behind the scenes of this but seeing the whole battle and being not involved in it (yay go me...

) I have to say I don't think the roleplay in that particular scene was that bad. The only disturbing thing was the OOC part, like it was mentioned, would have been better to say it IC.

Wouldn't have been a great problem I think.

I have to say that most dwarven players are taking all that too seriously. Yes I mean dwarven players in general (please notice the plural) I don't mean someone particular here.

As some might know it was also my plan to have Ghorn as a king, afterwards I'm happy that it came like that. Not because I don't like Ghorn anymore but to see that more than person cares about Silverbrand. And I'm happy to see that Silverbrand is once again active and war to find out who will be king isn't that bad really

Just my two cents.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 4:07 am

Personally, i like it cause it makes action in Illarion and make something happens, when Arameh became enemy of everyone he didnt like that, but i did. I mean that its roleplaying and that we must not think like our character do, and be upset like he is.

Ghorn · Post by **Ghorn** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:25 am

Not because I don't like Ghorn anymore but to see that more than person cares about Silverbrand. And I'm happy to see that Silverbrand is once again active and war to find out who will be king isn't that bad really

Wrong, because it splits the community of dwarves. and once it is over there will be less dwarves in silverbrand than before. that whole story just will weaken silverbrand and destroy what we build up after a long time of inactivity.

Avareniah · Post by **Avareniah** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:00 am

Ghorn wrote:
Not because I don't like Ghorn anymore but to see that more than person cares about Silverbrand. And I'm happy to see that Silverbrand is once again active and war to find out who will be king isn't that bad really
Wrong, because it splits the community of dwarves. and once it is over there will be less dwarves in silverbrand than before. that whole story just will weaken silverbrand and destroy what we build up after a long time of inactivity.

Splits the community of dwarves? It's a little late to be bringing in that argument. Rogan wanted terribly to be part of Silverbrand and waited months for... oh, right Nothing! And now you openly say that just because you are a dwarf, that does not entitle you to citizenship. THAT is where the split happens and you are kidding yourself if you say otherwise.

Ghorn · Post by **Ghorn** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:02 am

I know he wanted, and i am sorry that it took so long. but that was the problem with the inactive king tialdin. thats why me and fjalara started to reorganize the town. to stop that inactivity and bring life back to silverbrand. than others come after we did all the work and made it so that silverbrand can become active again and take the credit, and will live on what we made.

they came after we did the work. and now they want to profit from it and we can go away and shut up, very nice. yes.

Jeremy Gems Willowbrook · Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:47 am

Ghorn wrote:Wrong, because it splits the community of dwarves. and once it is over there will be less dwarves in silverbrand than before. that whole story just will weaken silverbrand and destroy what we build up after a long time of inactivity.

Or it creates many new opportunities for RP.