Everything about Illarion that fits nowhere else. / Alles über Illarion was inhaltlich in kein anderes Board passt.
	Moderator:  Gamemasters 
			
				
		
		
			
				
								Dónal Mason 							 
									
		Posts:  1115  		Joined:  Fri Mar 26, 2004 8:46 pm 		
		
											Location:  Don't feed the mogwai. After midnight, at least. 
							
						
		 
		
						
					
						 
		 
													
							
						
									
						Post 
					 
								by Dónal Mason   »  Mon May 16, 2005 9:09 pm 
			
			
			
			
			It looks too cartoony and I'm sorry, that's awful. And we already have a toadstool, made by our resident Illarion graphics...people.
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
								falco1029 							 
									
		Posts:  1325  		Joined:  Fri Nov 12, 2004 11:43 pm 		
		
											Location:  USA! USA! 
							
						
		 
		
						
					
						 
		 
													
							
						
									
						Post 
					 
								by falco1029   »  Mon May 16, 2005 9:33 pm 
			
			
			
			
			illarion graphics need to look a bit more realistic than that.
			
			
													
					Last edited by 
falco1029  on Tue May 17, 2005 2:18 am, edited 1 time in total.
									
 
			
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
																			
								Keikan Hiru 							 
									
		Posts:  3482  		Joined:  Thu Jun 26, 2003 5:46 pm 		
		
						
						
		 
		
						
					
						 
		 
													
							
						
									
						Post 
					 
								by Keikan Hiru   »  Mon May 16, 2005 9:41 pm 
			
			
			
			
			Are we playing the same game, Falco ? 
 
Dónal is right, its a bit to cartoon'ish, even for the already cartoon'ish Illarion graphics. 
Maybe try to use the same color sheme and it will look better. 
 
However, try to use 3d models as base of your images.
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
								Cliu Beothach 							 
									
		Posts:  1932  		Joined:  Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:07 am 		
		
											Location:  Leaving, in the oceans of the moon. 
							
						
		 
		
						
					
						 
		 
													
							
						
									
						Post 
					 
								by Cliu Beothach   »  Mon May 16, 2005 11:20 pm 
			
			
			
			
			Illarion gfx are a little more dark and smaller than that.
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
																			
								martin 							 
									
		Posts:  7382  		Joined:  Sun Feb 25, 2001 7:12 am 		
		
											Location:  vienna 
							
						
		 
		
						
					
						 
		 
													
							
						
									
						Post 
					 
								by martin   »  Tue May 17, 2005 12:50 am 
			
			
			
			
			It's not that bad, however it doesn't fit into Illarion. 
Additionally my trained eye tells me that this is not your work. At least I suspect that. 
 
The actual in game graphic for that thing looks terrible, too. 
 
Martin
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
								Meriadoc Danderfluff 							 
									
		Posts:  27  		Joined:  Sun May 15, 2005 6:28 am 		
		
						
						
		 
		
						
					
						 
		 
													
							
						
									
						Post 
					 
								by Meriadoc Danderfluff   »  Tue May 17, 2005 2:12 am 
			
			
			
			
			It is my work , and im used to make Tibia-like graphics so thats why it looks cartoony , I dunno how to make Illarion-like graphics so....
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
								falco1029 							 
									
		Posts:  1325  		Joined:  Fri Nov 12, 2004 11:43 pm 		
		
											Location:  USA! USA! 
							
						
		 
		
						
					
						 
		 
													
							
						
									
						Post 
					 
								by falco1029   »  Tue May 17, 2005 2:20 am 
			
			
			
			
			I sutre hope so Keikan. I dont know where you get "cartoony" from ilalrion's graphics. The non-3d ones look fairly realistic, some even to the point of looking like a photo. The 3d models look pretty real though it's obvious they are generated. But neithe rlook anything like cartoony.
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
				
		
		
			
				
								falco1029 							 
									
		Posts:  1325  		Joined:  Fri Nov 12, 2004 11:43 pm 		
		
											Location:  USA! USA! 
							
						
		 
		
						
					
						 
		 
													
							
						
									
						Post 
					 
								by falco1029   »  Tue May 17, 2005 3:49 am 
			
			
			
			
			if you cant tell that the characters for instance are 3d rendered models....well then you dont know much about graphics.
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
								Nilo 							 
									
		Posts:  1446  		Joined:  Fri Jan 31, 2003 4:50 pm 		
		
																Location:  Josh.com is much cooler than chris.com! 
							
							
				Contact: 
				
			 
				
		 
		
						
					
						 
		 
													
							
						
									
						Post 
					 
								by Nilo   »  Tue May 17, 2005 5:30 am 
			
			
			
			
			No, No, NO, and No. 
 
No offense. NO
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
								The-Puppeteer 							 
									
		Posts:  91  		Joined:  Mon May 09, 2005 8:37 pm 		
		
											Location:  here and there 
							
						
		 
		
						
					
						 
		 
													
							
						
									
						Post 
					 
								by The-Puppeteer   »  Tue May 17, 2005 7:59 am 
			
			
			
			
			Naahh it wouldn't look nice in Illarion, but it wasn't bad just not for illarion
  
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
								Adano Eles 							 
									
		Posts:  2436  		Joined:  Sat Aug 17, 2002 2:48 pm 		
		
											Location:  Eiris sazun idisi, sazun hera duoder... 
							
						
		 
		
						
					
						 
		 
													
							
						
									
						Post 
					 
								by Adano Eles   »  Tue May 17, 2005 9:27 am 
			
			
			
			
			Illarion is 2d, however the graphics are rendered from 3d- models.
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
								Delakaniam 							 
									
		Posts:  353  		Joined:  Fri May 30, 2003 11:09 pm 		
		
																Location:  We have to believe in free will. We have no choice. 
							
							
				Contact: 
				
			 
				
		 
		
						
					
						 
		 
													
							
						
									
						Post 
					 
								by Delakaniam   »  Tue May 17, 2005 12:07 pm 
			
			
			
			
			falco1029 wrote: if you cant tell that the characters for instance are 3d rendered models....well then you dont know much about graphics.
Isn't there any *NICER* way you could have said this?
At any rate, the toadstool is nice, but it fits somewhere like Furcadia better, I think.
 
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
								Nilo 							 
									
		Posts:  1446  		Joined:  Fri Jan 31, 2003 4:50 pm 		
		
																Location:  Josh.com is much cooler than chris.com! 
							
							
				Contact: 
				
			 
				
		 
		
						
					
						 
		 
													
							
						
									
						Post 
					 
								by Nilo   »  Tue May 17, 2005 4:02 pm 
			
			
			
			
			Delakaniam wrote: falco1029 wrote: if you cant tell that the characters for instance are 3d rendered models....well then you dont know much about graphics.
Isn't there any *NICER* way you could have said this?
Haha i dont think so, thats pretty blunt.
But then, most people DONT know much about graphics.
 
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
								falco1029 							 
									
		Posts:  1325  		Joined:  Fri Nov 12, 2004 11:43 pm 		
		
											Location:  USA! USA! 
							
						
		 
		
						
					
						 
		 
													
							
						
									
						Post 
					 
								by falco1029   »  Tue May 17, 2005 8:55 pm 
			
			
			
			
			Delakaniam wrote: 
Isn't there any *NICER* way you could have said this?
 I Doubt it.
 
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
								The-Puppeteer 							 
									
		Posts:  91  		Joined:  Mon May 09, 2005 8:37 pm 		
		
											Location:  here and there 
							
						
		 
		
						
					
						 
		 
													
							
						
									
						Post 
					 
								by The-Puppeteer   »  Tue May 17, 2005 9:31 pm 
			
			
			
			
			How would you see that it is 3d rendered falco? You can paint the same picture in 2d, though it might be a bit harder.
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
								falco1029 							 
									
		Posts:  1325  		Joined:  Fri Nov 12, 2004 11:43 pm 		
		
											Location:  USA! USA! 
							
						
		 
		
						
					
						 
		 
													
							
						
									
						Post 
					 
								by falco1029   »  Tue May 17, 2005 11:09 pm 
			
			
			
			
			alright, granted, it is POSSIBLE to paint a 3d rendered picture to look the same. But it's very hard and no one with any sanity would do it.  
 
I dont know how to explain it, but there are certain things that characterize most 2d and 3d drawings, thoguh I suppose outliers are possible.
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
																			
								Hermie 							 
									
		Posts:  1797  		Joined:  Thu Oct 10, 2002 9:21 pm 		
		
						
						
		 
		
						
					
						 
		 
													
							
						
									
						Post 
					 
								by Hermie   »  Wed May 18, 2005 2:17 am 
			
			
			
			
			It would be logical to presume that they render the model in 3d and take frames of the model in different positions to impliment as animations into the game.
They should do images of it sitting down and lying down. It would be a lot easier to get this across to people rather than having to type '#me is lying down' everytime someone new comes along etc.
 
 
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
																			
								martin 							 
									
		Posts:  7382  		Joined:  Sun Feb 25, 2001 7:12 am 		
		
											Location:  vienna 
							
						
		 
		
						
					
						 
		 
													
							
						
									
						Post 
					 
								by martin   »  Wed May 18, 2005 9:48 am 
			
			
			
			
			Having the graphics is one thing. 
 
Implementing them so you sit down when you want to is another thing. 
 
Martin
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
								Bei Tian Kensai 							 
									
		Posts:  496  		Joined:  Tue Apr 08, 2003 1:55 pm 		
		
											Location:  The Cloud 
							
						
		 
		
						
					
						 
		 
													
							
						
									
						Post 
					 
								by Bei Tian Kensai   »  Wed May 18, 2005 7:03 pm 
			
			
			
			
			Maybe something like a command that initiates the graphic change, but it can only be done on certain squares of the map. 
 
The musroom looks okay, but I don't understand why you would submit it to the Illarion staff...the art style is completely different. You have to keep the perspective and art style consistent so it doesn't stand out too much in the game itself. Learn simple 3d graphics, and take pics from different angles. Remember to skin them aswell. And pixie dust, don't forget to sprinkle pixie dust all over the place.