Ale
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- Rand Kalhan Al'Vega
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Ale
I beleive there should be an NPC in the tavern that sells ale and such
- Moirear Sian
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For those who still don't know it and surf into here, the tavern (named the Fluffy Sheep) is owned by Tialdin. IG there are offers on his behalf to work for him as a tender.
The actual problem is that there's a list of people who are employed IG, but it's pretty much next to impossible to ever meet them ig, though; either because they have too many different characters and don't feel like playing the tender role, or simply because they just can't be on 24/7.
But I also remember from older discussions that the general consensus was more or less: "We don't want an NPC barkeeper/drinks vendor".
... now to explain Kasume's post.
Function "Search"
It's located on the top right, in between the words "FAQ" and "Memberlist", in the first of the two rows.
It's pretty helpful to prevent yourself from posting something that's been discussed before. Or rolled up in older threads, several times. Especially if it's the Proposals section, which is far beyond what I'd call a "mess".
My short-liner proposal of the day:
Make the Search button five pixels bigger in Font size, as to distinguish it visibly from the others. Please. K? Thx.
The actual problem is that there's a list of people who are employed IG, but it's pretty much next to impossible to ever meet them ig, though; either because they have too many different characters and don't feel like playing the tender role, or simply because they just can't be on 24/7.
But I also remember from older discussions that the general consensus was more or less: "We don't want an NPC barkeeper/drinks vendor".
... now to explain Kasume's post.
Function "Search"
It's located on the top right, in between the words "FAQ" and "Memberlist", in the first of the two rows.
It's pretty helpful to prevent yourself from posting something that's been discussed before. Or rolled up in older threads, several times. Especially if it's the Proposals section, which is far beyond what I'd call a "mess".
My short-liner proposal of the day:
Make the Search button five pixels bigger in Font size, as to distinguish it visibly from the others. Please. K? Thx.
I asked martin about this, theres a good possibility we will have it in the next client. Ale that is, because there is not even that yet. This is like trying to sell a bag of grain that doesn't exist yet. You could buy nothing from this npc I suppose.
Otherwise, just remove Kasume's ability to post and the forum will be dramatically less insulting to human intelligence.
Otherwise, just remove Kasume's ability to post and the forum will be dramatically less insulting to human intelligence.
- Moirear Sian
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If we'd want to be mean, we could start a conspiracy and spread the word that the dwarves have been selling poison for ale.Gro'bul wrote:theres a good possibility we will have it in the next client. Ale that is, because there is not even that yet. This is like trying to sell a bag of grain that doesn't exist yet.
But seriously, I'd appreciate that, it's kinda weird when you drink a bottle of "ale" and your character is more than half-dead afterwards, but you don't ever get the "You are drunk"-message from it.
As most people seem to have an aversion against wine, milk, and hardly ever buy it. Or nobody can walk to the river and fill a bottle with a water.
So I still don't understand what an NPC barkeeper would be good for.
With PC barkeepers you have many more possibilites for RP:
• Arguments
• Bartering about the price
• Eavesdropping of PCs on dialogue*
• Bouncers who kick you out
• Committing "illegal" acts when there's no tender around, like miming the tender yourself, or covert transactions and deals.
Besides, lately I've been seeing more and more activity in the tavern. It's just a question of RP, and that the people finally stop just hanging around in front of Eliza's Shop and actually move around (gee!).
Picture the awkwardness! :
A: I'm the new bartender here.
NPC: (scratches his head)
B: What about him? (points at the NPC)
NPC: (scratches his head)
A: He's just my lackey.
NPC: (scratches his head)
B: Alright. ((clicks on the NPC bartender and buys some drinks ))
NPC: (( deletes some of B's money and adds the drinks to inventory ))
NPC: Pleasure doing business with you.
A: Well, what can I do for ya?
NPC: (scratches his head)
B: Bye. (leaves)
- Ezor Edwickton
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With a pc barkeeper there is next to no possibility to rp, for the simple reason that they are only barkeeping for such a short time and very rarely. The only time i've ever seen a pc barkeeper is when there are already a bunch of players in the bar. But no one really goes there much because there is next to no reason to be there (besideds being on of the only places in town with chairs ). If an npc where put in the bar, it would become much much more popular as a hang out of a place to meet, greatly increaseing rp between players. Not to mention making it seem like a real tavern rather than some empty building full of chairs.
- Dónal Mason
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- Jeremy Gems Willowbrook
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Does this mean that sam and Eliza are stupid and pointless? Since you can buy and sell to PC's just as easily does this make them obsolete? Personally I think a few more NPCs around would be a good thing. Some players seem to forget that there are supposed to be townsfolk other than the PCs wandering around. GMs would also be able to play the NPCs sometimes....as has happened with Sam and Eliza recently. Giving more quest opportunity and RP possibility.
- Moirear Sian
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- Miraci Ruhn
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And if the NPC were to talk, DONT MAKE HIM TALK SO MUCH!! It gets VERY annoying when I try to have a conversation in the shop and get interrupted with "Sam scratches his head and hums a melody... Numberss are god for booksss not brainsss, yesss... Writes small numbers into book and seems to calculate." It gets mixed in withall the other things that are MORE IMPORTANT!
F'ck it, let's bring illarion up to date and stick a cigar vending machine in there and give the bartender a shotgun under the table.
No-one will agree because people want to go to the tavern to buy beer to roleplay and talk together there, yet no-one who has beer seems to be able to sell it there! The easiest way (imo - jeez, cant leave that out these days ) is this:
Players who can (but more importantly want to) make beer on a regular basis will write on the town walls 'I will be serving beer between [this] time and [that] time' of course they need the owner's permission.
That way on the day you can show up if it's in your time zone.
No-one will agree because people want to go to the tavern to buy beer to roleplay and talk together there, yet no-one who has beer seems to be able to sell it there! The easiest way (imo - jeez, cant leave that out these days ) is this:
Players who can (but more importantly want to) make beer on a regular basis will write on the town walls 'I will be serving beer between [this] time and [that] time' of course they need the owner's permission.
That way on the day you can show up if it's in your time zone.
- Salesh Ssshak'rr
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