Ugly Mummies

Jeremy Gems Willowbrook · Sat Oct 16, 2004 3:15 pm

Jeremy walks briskly up to the wall...finds a clear spot and pins a large notice up.

The area where the mummies are is very ugly, as are they. Nothing can be done for them, but the area can be made beautiful. I have made a start by planting a few trees. Please feel free to contribute to improving this area and making sure it stays beautiful.
Thank You.

Jeremy

Kasume · Post by **Kasume** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 3:38 pm

Does anyone find something wrong with this?

-Kasume-

Jeremy Gems Willowbrook · Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:14 pm

Now how did I know you would have something to say about this Kasume?
Well? What do you think is "wrong" with this? Or maybe you just prefer ugly?

Sam · Post by **Sam** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:57 pm

I commend your efforts to bring some life to a dead place Jeremy. But make sure you do not supply these creatures a place to hide and lie in wait for unsuspecting travellers.

Sam.

Kasume · Post by **Kasume** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 8:33 pm

What is wrong?
For starters, as Sam mentioned, you're trying to bring life and happiness to where undead creatures roam around. Isn't the key to a dangerous place its looks? Perhaps a mental and unconventional warning that they do not receive literally? It's as a saftey percaution Jeremy.

Now that I completely support beautifying just about anywhere else besides places where vile creatures roam.
Would it obviously make sense to have a demon roaming around a precious garden? I would imagine it would become quite confused. Nontheless, we can always have the skeletons hang from the beautiful fir trees that we grew.

Honestly, is this the way to fight the undead now? To decorate their lairs in which they harm people?
Find some sense.

-Kasume-

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 9:56 pm

They are tortured souls Kasume. Have more respect for those in pain.

~Cliu Beothach~

Kasume · Post by **Kasume** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:29 pm

Respect for those in pain?
Bloody idiot.

Do remember that we slaughter and kill dozens of them everyday. What seriously is the difference?
Do remember that our peasants, the feeble, die from them. Now think, a villager does think twice before entering. And he or she realizes the danger. But if flowers, trees, and gardens surround danger, are they honestly going to realize and think of any threat? Especially the new folk? I would not think so.

Their lives are over. Why twingle and plant them gardens. Kill them, do not decorate them.

-Kasume-

Jeremy Gems Willowbrook · Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:49 pm

Kasume....would you prefer it if we just lay waste to the entire area? Lets burn it all to the bare rock just because there are undead there. How far should we go Kasume...a few feet? a few hundred feet? Lets knock down everything within 100 paces of anything bad so people know its there?
If you are so worried about the undead being there why not go and wipe them out. Destroy the lair that spawns them and stop them once and for all.
There is an old saying I once heard. "If you have nothing good to say....keep quiet".
If the area looks good or bad they will still be there. People will still go there if it looks like a graveyard or a blasted wasteland. Whether its out of curiosity or seeking adventure they will always go.
So why should we live with an eyesore just over the river? Why not make the area AROUND look better? (I said nothing about decorating their lair - just the area around it)
Besides, who knows, having a garden around their house might improve their temper and mood. Maybe you should try the same Kasume.

Brendan Mason · Post by **Brendan Mason** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:56 pm

If you make the area around it much prettier, won't that just lure unsuspecting townfolk there? Imagine this-a child and her mother decide to play in the garden, unaware of the cursed old men that ramble there, looking to eat human and halfling flesh alike. They would be rended apart, simply because what they thought to be a garden, was in fact the den of the undead! Wouldn't that be so very tragic?

-Brendan Mason

Kasume · Post by **Kasume** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 2:50 am

I do not have the parchments to waste on idiots like you Jeremy.
I give up, as you completely twist my words into something different.

-Kasume-

Konstantin K · Post by **Konstantin K** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 3:42 am

the dead are not in pain.
the dead do not feel offended.
the dead do not care.

the dead... are simply... dead.

if you come near them - they will hunt your flesh, for it is their curse.
decorate it or not - it makes no esthetical difference to them.

what trees can do though - is become a trap for warriors and lead them to death. Kind of like it did in Northerot.

If you plant too many trees and make a labyrinth of them, and suddenly, some horde of monsters attacks from the caves of Moshran - all warriors will be doomed, trying to walk around the trees, chased by swarms of monsters.

Think about that.

Kasume · Post by **Kasume** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:18 am

Fifthteen paces from town.

-Kasume-

Jeremy Gems Willowbrook · Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:17 am

If everyone is so worried about people straying into this area why not put up a sign? Just beacuse the area looks ugly people will not stop going there. People will go there no matter what. All I am saying is why should it look ugly from in the town. I never said anything about turning the area into a garden...just planting some trees etc. to screen the area from town..so when we wake or look out over the river we see something beautiful.
Its no wonder nothing gets done in this town.
Someone tries to do something to improve the area and all anyone can do is pick fault and moan about it. People try to do something positive and all anyone does is complain about it. No wonder nobody wants to do anything if this is the kind of reaction they will get. Talk about taking away peoples will to get involved in making things better!
I got a new idea.....lets destroy the bridge then nobody can "wander" into the area by mistake!
Why in the name of the gods is planting a couple of trees such a big deal?
If people worry so much about the mummies and skeletons pouncing on the unwary then why not do something about them? Go kill them! Destroy their hiding places, their lairs! Remove them from the isle! GET RID OF THEM! Just stop moaning and whining every time someone tries to do something positive in this damned town!
Destroy......thats all any of you are good at.
Someone tries to create and you get all upset.
Well DAMN you all!

Brendan Mason · Post by **Brendan Mason** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 3:09 pm

Jeremy..perhaps if you picked a spot to create something beautiful in, that wasn't also the home of some vile creatures, then there wouldn't be such uproar.

Brendan Mason

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 3:19 pm

Do remember that we slaughter and kill dozens of them everyday.

Not WE...YOU do sir, YOU do.

~Cliu Beothach~

Kasume · Post by **Kasume** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:25 pm

Quite agreed Brendan. It is has nothing to do with the planting of the things. It all has to do with the place. A key factor in beautifying anything.

As to you Cliu, watch your words.
Mummy attacks were just a normal thing when I arrived here.

-Kasume-

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 6:01 pm

Why must I watch my words? They are just my opinions.

~Cliu Beothach~

Kasume · Post by **Kasume** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:44 pm

You're writing like a half witted dimwit that is completely delirious of his surroundings. You have no true input into this.

-Kasume-

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:55 pm

I am sorry to hear that Kasume. Being peaceful is not the same as being a dimwit.

~Cliu Beothach~

Kasume · Post by **Kasume** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:56 pm

Point proven.

-Kasume-

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:57 pm

Really? Can you please explain how?

~Cliu Beothach~

Hermie · Post by **Hermie** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:59 pm

These zombies, or whatever you would call them, are mindless blood-thirsty savages that would kill you without reason or remorse, yet you would care for them?

~Hermie~
~Baker Extraordinaire*

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:02 pm

They are tortured souls constantly in agony. If it COMES to killing them, then you must...but dont show them any more pain then you would a normal person.

~Cliu Beothach~

Konstantin K · Post by **Konstantin K** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 11:32 pm

As Dravish once pointed out, "We don't know the meaning of pain"

Kasume · Post by **Kasume** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 1:07 am

Honestly, this has nothing to do with the zombies feelings and attitudes towards things.

Their lives are over. Stop caring. Care too much of them, and you'll be begging for the same.

-Kasume-

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 1:14 am

Think with your heart...not with your sword. If they come in and raid the town then you have no choice, but if you go and slay them for a pocket full of gold...bah.

~Cliu Beothach~

Moirear Sian · Post by **Moirear Sian** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 1:17 am

A message is scrawled onto the last parchment:

Think with your mind, but follow your heart.
~unsigned

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 1:23 am

True words my friend, but sometime the heart must overcome the mind. Only when the mind is willing though.

~Cliu Beothach~!

Jeremy Gems Willowbrook · Mon Oct 18, 2004 6:26 pm

How did this become a discussion about the undead and their feelings?All I meant was I dont like looking over the river and seeing that ugly area. So I planted some trees to screen the view from town and invited others to add their own IF they WANTED to. As to peoples concerns about innocents wandering into the area, wouldnt they do that anyway?I never said anything about turning the area into a garden just making it look better from the town.
Trees providing cover for the mummies? Do they really strike you as intelligent enough to lurk in cover and ambush people? Pretty or ugly people will wander into the area and get attacked. Put up a sign.
The mummies dont venture into town unless lead.
Finally.....think on this.......
A screen of bushes and trees between the bridge and the buildings would prevent the mummies wandering about. Making the area safer and more beautiful. Preventing "accidental encounters" with "unsuspecting innocents". A single entryway could be left (well away from the bridge) to allow access for people who so wish. How about that?

Hermie · Post by **Hermie** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 6:54 pm

If you want to make it look better from town, why not plant cherry and apple trees on the town side of the river? Yes, people who do not know about it will surely wander there at some times, but why make the place attract more innocents than usual?

To those who mentioned wiping the zombies out: It is not a simple case of destroying these monsters as they were put here by a God, to mess with this bond between them would be messing with Gods. It is not wise.

~Hermie~
~Baker Extraordinaire*