Evil

Dracon · Post by **Dracon** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 3:08 am

Yesterday, there was a attack on the city by a Player or Group, not an npc. He/they blocked off half the city with a wall of fire (that was what i heard) and i almost got killed in the library when he/they set flames in there. Can someone tell me who was responsible for this so i can know who stay away from for now?

Cuderon · Post by **Cuderon** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 3:18 am

I think that is something to find out ingame. And there is a thread on the guild board, that may clear up something.

Niniane · Post by **Niniane** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 3:20 am

Isn't this an in-game question? If they were truly roleplaying you should find out in character and not here. Sorry

Your character can't know things it learns here in the ooc boards in character, and because of that should not avoid them. If you learned in character then you should avoid them, that's just a part of roleplaying.

If they were breaking server rules and using the excuse of being evil and have been or will be dealt with by the gms I see no reason why they should not be publicly humiliated by posting there names here. Ok that was a little harsh.

Edit: Sorry, I was typing this at the same time Cuderon was and apparently he submitted it faster!

Bumbol Woodstock · Post by **Bumbol Woodstock** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 5:14 am

can a character kill a person at random and say it was a sacrifice for Malachin and get away with it?

Sir Gannon · Post by **Sir Gannon** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 5:30 am

Could i come up to a person on the street with a gun shoot them and say it was a sacrifice to God? Then get away with it? Um..No. Gotta go into a LITTLE more detail than that.

Niniane · Post by **Niniane** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 5:32 am

It may appear random to you but they may have been acting that out for a long time without your notice. If a person randomly walks up to you and kills you and says it was a sacrifice that is not allowed but if they were indeed sacrificing you then they don't have to tell you beforehand. That's their roleplay involving you whether you like it or not (not kind to the player but within the rules and adds variety). It will not be easy for you to find out if they had in fact been roleplaying that act out for some time or not. Usually a person like that will develop a reputation, they should have some form of ritual and should at least speak things to others or to themselves in a whisper or out loud about the upcoming sacrifice. This would symbolize their thought being poured into the act, and would also allow the moderators to check the logs if they were reported to see if it was in fact a viable killing and not a random pk with the excuse of a rped sacrifice. You should get their name next time in the very least, and ask them ooc about their sacrifices and if you feel they didn't do it in a just way then report them and let the moderators decide.

Remember, just because a person has had no prior words with your character does not mean they are not allowed to kill you within the rules. If they have their own reason they can do so, even if your character was not involved in their reasoning.

Bumbol Woodstock · Post by **Bumbol Woodstock** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 5:36 am

so ninnine something like "and as I take your life your soul goes to Malachin!" as one kills a random person that is ok?

Sir Gannon · Post by **Sir Gannon** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 5:38 am

I suppose so. But gez that would stink having someone walk up to you whispering. " Hey i need you to die its part of my story, Thanks " BAM! Well it would be within rules i suppose but it would still stink ^_^

Bumbol Woodstock · Post by **Bumbol Woodstock** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 5:41 am

i'm sure dieing in real life stinks to

Niniane · Post by **Niniane** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 5:41 am

That would be ok if that character was a follower of Malachin all of the time (only a very devout worshiper would sacrifice anyone, and I don't even know if people would make a sacrifice to Malachin. Some would say no and a few would say yes.) If the player only mentioned the name Malachin during sacrifices they are probably using this as an excuse to pk people and no matter what they say before they kill you they should be punished. They have to be a follower in more ways than just sacrifice to get away with this, but if they are then this is perfectly acceptable and a nice addition to the community.

Bumbol Woodstock · Post by **Bumbol Woodstock** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 5:43 am

ya, my new character going to be a very devout worshiper of Malachin and make sacrifices and do rituals and such, i hope it'll make Illarion a more realistic place.

Burin · Post by **Burin** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 5:48 am

Hmmmmm...

Elaralith · Post by **Elaralith** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 7:08 am

Actually you are all slightly misguided...sacrificing another player's character to Malachin would not be good RP because Malachin is not they kind of god that delights in seeing suffering. I think you are mixing Malachin and Moshran up. I would be horrified to see a follower of Malachin killing someone and then saying it was a "sacrifice to Malachin"-that just would not make any sense at all.
As well, if you want to involve someone in some RP say as your sacrifice victim it is best to ask the permission of the player whose character you want to kill beforehand...it isn't at all fun nor pleasant for anyone at all for you to kill another player's character and cause that character to lose all his/her skills when the player did not intend for their character to be sacrificed or involved in your RP anyways...

Dracon · Post by **Dracon** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 8:30 am

Are people allowed to block off half the town with a wall of fire though?

Dracon · Post by **Dracon** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 8:34 am

Bumbol Woodstock wrote:ya, my new character going to be a very devout worshiper of Malachin and make sacrifices and do rituals and such, i hope it'll make Illarion a more realistic place.

If you are going to do that then better watch out for me because after that incident in the library, i have decided to become a deamon (in my case a deamon is a worshorper or minion of a evil god) slayer

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Pasha · Post by **Pasha** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 12:40 pm

Do not all of you wanted reallity and stuff? in Middleage people did: kill, sucrifice, burn witches for no reason. So if somebody kills you for sucrifice for their god then... well... it is your bad day

indrkl · Post by **indrkl** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 2:14 pm

I would like to know also. Is it really possible for a punch of players to destroy a town and put the buildings there on fire. Cos I mean, it would be really cool, lol

Though. I mean, when some orc war veteran gets a punch of followers and starts to raid towns to get money for themselves. I mean, like a punch of orcs would do. Then it isn't against the RPG law, or is it?

Galdriel · Post by **Galdriel** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 2:27 pm

such has happened.

Bloodhearte · Post by **Bloodhearte** » Wed Mar 19, 2003 4:28 pm

That was my cult that made the flames. However, we know that it is against server rules to kill randomly. Besides, we follow Moshran, not Malachin...I think it's just some player claiming to be a part of my cult then have an excuse to randomly kill players.

Yes, you ARE allowed to block half the town out with flame. We did it with red flames, because blue may have been a bit harsh...I tried it a second time in the library with green so I knew that a hardy warrior was coming after moi.

Armil Darken · Post by **Armil Darken** » Wed Mar 19, 2003 6:35 pm

Your the one that forced me to retreat becaus my lack of healing to get through the flames

Bloodhearte · Post by **Bloodhearte** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 12:22 am

Ooooh, I have CHILLS.

This evil bit is the single most fun experience with a character I've ever had in Illarion.

Grimey the Demon · Post by **Grimey the Demon** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 12:25 am

Actualy.....it really is!

Dracon · Post by **Dracon** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 7:01 am

Evil...humph...it sickens me to see that Illarion is going into a Dark Age. People selling their souls to gods of destruction.

what are we going to do...let this land fall prey to darkness! We should seal the followers of evil to the underworld where they shall remain untill they make up for their sins.

Bloodhearte · Post by **Bloodhearte** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 4:05 pm

It's about time the world goes into a Dark Age. Ever since I've been around, there have been but a few bad times for Trollsbane...why not give it a twist?

Dracon · Post by **Dracon** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 9:49 pm

Well then again i think it is best to have alittle evil around. If there wasn't any evil it would upset the balance of nature.

Bloodhearte · Post by **Bloodhearte** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 11:11 pm

Correct Dracon. Tell that to Malinne, Crosis, and the other stubborn people and their ilk. I already got plenty of messages thanking me for bringing in this evil roleplaying.

Bror · Post by **Bror** » Sat Mar 22, 2003 3:00 pm

Bumbol Woodstock wrote:can a character kill a person at random and say it was a sacrifice for Malachin and get away with it?

If a Character can get away with it, is up to your decision and up to the people who were witnesses.
If a player can get away with it, depends on the GMs. They will get away with it, if their whole game is about beeing a Moshran (as pointed out before not Malachin) follower.
I am not familiar with the gods, but I suppose this means:
- Don't be nice to other people (always! If an OOC friend of yours logs new into the game, you will NOT give him free armor and weapons and guide him through the scenery! - maybe you will - aa almost broken sword and a crappy armor and then send him to kill the "easy" demons and watch him suffer...)
- pray regulary
- donate money for Moshran temple
- try to find new followers
- try to figure out ways to make people suffer
- make intrigues
....

Dracon wrote:Are people allowed to block off half the town with a wall of fire though?

People are allowed to do almost everything if it is part of their ROLE. This is a ROLEplaying game, not a "act like the developers tell you" game.

Pasha wrote:in Middleage people did: kill, sucrifice, burn witches for no reason.

Wrong, they had reasons. The fact, that a reason may not be ok for most people, does not say it is not a proper reason for the person acting this way.
If I was an inquisitor and I believed that a person was possesed by satan and I did it a favor by burning it on a pyre, this was a perfect reason for me to let it burn.
Also if I don't believe, that the person is possessed, but I know that burning it will make the other people stick to the ten commandments (that I approve) by fear and make them donate money for the churches treasury, I have a reason to burn the person.

Dracon · Post by **Dracon** » Tue Apr 01, 2003 5:35 am

Ok, Bloodhearte i think you are going way alittle...bit.......OVERBOARD!!!!!! You summoned demons in town. That tips the scale. The balence of nature does not mean killing all life, or else there won't be nature.

Radurak · Post by **Radurak** » Tue Apr 01, 2003 5:47 am

Dracon wrote:Ok, Bloodhearte i think you are going way alittle...bit.......OVERBOARD!!!!!! You summoned demons in town. That tips the scale.

As many have already said. Nobody of the Blackstone Cult has summond monsters. There have only been rumors that they will be able to in the future...

Radurak A. Bragol

Radurak · Post by **Radurak** » Tue Apr 01, 2003 5:49 am

Are you speaking of NPC demons? If so, that has never been done. If you are talking about the GM demon, then that is differant. Though, I don't really know if Bloodhearte summond it.

Radurak A. Bragol