Guild Council Meeting - slighty immature time but...

sean · Post by **sean** » Sat Jan 12, 2002 3:20 am

next saturday 19th times will be posted monday
topics include
"sand castle"
recent attacks
what WE can do in game to help trolls bane more
what We can propose to bror about the game to help trolls bane more
other issues

not ivited tot he meeting are:
Peace keeper
anyone else who will not follow the rules
or can enter due to regulations stated below
Guilds must have 6members to get one seat 12for two
Guilds must have been activ e for one mont h for one seath 3months for two (will be disscussed at meeting)
Scholls must have 20students ? (not quite sure on this one)
specatators must shut up unless talked to or have a valid oppinion

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Sat Jan 12, 2002 4:14 am

12, and i better get more students pretty quick now!

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Sat Jan 12, 2002 9:56 am

"what We can propose to bror about the game to help trolls bane more
other issues"

The Guild Council does not have the power to alter the physics from which our world is fabricated. If you have a good idea for the game, just because everyone agrees with you doesn't mean your idea will happen (example: We all want more items, better systems, etc but its not going to just happen). If you have a good idea just post it on the proposal board and if its a good idea I'm sure Bror will think about it anyways.

Aragon · Post by **Aragon** » Sat Jan 12, 2002 12:36 pm

I must admit, that the rules, you told, Sean, are not exactly, what was said at the last meeting. I have written down the words of Damien, to which we all agreed and will bring them down here:

To the meeting is every guild allowed, if it is good or evil. the meeting is a place for politics, not for weapons and threats. Unrespectable behavior or attacks have the fact, that this person and guild will loose his seat. If it is loosed, the guild can regain it after a month.

Guilds, which have get their 6th member can ably for a seat and will reach it one month later.
Guilds, which have get their 12th member can ably for two seats and will reach it two months later.
Schools with 12 pupils will get one seat, after a month of existing.
Schools with 24 pupils will get two seats after two months of existing.

One player can only have one char, which counts for the same guild as member.

I hope, I have cleared up the facts, we have decided the last meeting.

(Edited by Aragon at 2:11 pm on Jan. 12, 2002)

Peace Keeper · Post by **Peace Keeper** » Sat Jan 12, 2002 1:22 pm

sean, that was VERY pointless. You know well ahead that I know you wouldn't want me to be there and that lil line just gives me all the more reasons to be there. Better make it some time I can show up just to tick you off...

Torekin · Post by **Torekin** » Sat Jan 12, 2002 1:27 pm

I have a projexct and it's like guild.we are atleast 6 members!I hope I can be there on the meeting or maybe Tialdin or Rugosch,please post!
http://de.geocities.com/dwarftown

(Edited by Torekin at 1:28 pm on Jan. 12, 2002)

Leif · Post by **Leif** » Sat Jan 12, 2002 2:13 pm

torekin... that project of yours is what ironhammers have been trying to do for over half a year...

i still have a question to the leading figures...
for several months we had over 20 members...
but for now, we are not sure... but still...
could we aply for a second seat?
im sure you all know that we meant alot to trolls bane in the past...
(hell, the town is even named after our first king udan trollsbane)
i expect an answer, and i thank thee for yer time

Aragon · Post by **Aragon** » Sat Jan 12, 2002 2:28 pm

@Torekin
as I described above, you will get a seat after one month of existing ... and you have now abblied for a seat.

@Leif
as your memberpage shows, Ironhammer have only three members in the moment .... so I think, it is really hard to give you two seats ....
the guild council shall represent the existing guilds and their influences in Illarion, for that, one seat is enough, if you gain again six members.
This is my opinion on this, Leif.

Leif · Post by **Leif** » Sat Jan 12, 2002 2:41 pm

we have over 6 members... i just havent got the time to update the pages yet...
im doing some cleaning of the hierarcy...
but if you go to the boards that consider the ironhammers you might find some of our member wich i havent wrote down yet...

but still, does not the past mean anything? but we still have more influence than most...

(Edited by Leif at 3:49 pm on Jan. 12, 2002)

korn muphin two · Post by **korn muphin two** » Sat Jan 12, 2002 6:24 pm

so who exactly is going to the council meeting?

sean · Post by **sean** » Sat Jan 12, 2002 6:56 pm

thanks for reposting the right rules it was pretty late for me ( i am in england )
also if torekins project is part of ironhammer it counts as iron hammer not sepereate (i have two projects myself)
tialdin has attendied everymeeting so far
as for who is NOT going peacekeeper and other non leaders/spectaters
@PK if you show up and get in i will make you a permenant statue

Torekin · Post by **Torekin** » Sat Jan 12, 2002 7:04 pm

the project ISN'T part of the Ironhammers!We don't collect with them!we work with them,but the project is our own,we just want the right for building under the Irmorontemple!or a connection from their cave to ours!and we are atleast 6 members,and I will come to the meeting in one month

all the members are in otehr guilds,so its a mixed up project for DWARVES!

sean · Post by **sean** » Sat Jan 12, 2002 7:06 pm

ok so your not part of ironhammers yet most of the dwarfs are in other guilds, i am not sure but insent there a law for the meetings against that, if not there should be

Torekin · Post by **Torekin** » Sat Jan 12, 2002 7:20 pm

you see that I am in 2 guilds also,ok, 1 order and one guild!where is the problem?

sean · Post by **sean** » Sat Jan 12, 2002 7:27 pm

then you would count to the council as inactive of both guilds as you cannot be counted in both guilds same goes for this project

Torekin · Post by **Torekin** » Sat Jan 12, 2002 8:11 pm

what?I do things for every guild!but the Project is on the top!where is the matter?there are a lot of people who are in two guilds!and I don't want to discuss now!All I want is a seat!

sean · Post by **sean** » Sat Jan 12, 2002 9:15 pm

please calm down you start to sound like peacekeeper it is up to damien aragon and the others spokesman to decide now that this new information been presented

Torekin · Post by **Torekin** » Sat Jan 12, 2002 10:51 pm

sorry,the temperamet os a dwarf!hehe

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Sun Jan 13, 2002 12:48 am

One person can count for more than one guild and can even take two seats if both of his guilds chooses him as representitive. I'm not sure about 3, I think there should be a limit.
Also there needs to be a rule where if something like 40% of a guild's members are from the same guild that already exists, then this one does not count. So example you could not do this for persons A-I:

Guild1: A. B, C, D, E, F
Guild2: A, B, C, G, H, I
Guild3: D, E, F, G, H, I
Guild4: A, C, D, F, G, I

@Torekin: It seems to be that Ironhammer is a guild of all dwarves worshipping Imorom and working to build a cave, and your project is also the same thing of all dwarves and many of your members are already in Ironhammer, so why not just continue working as Ironhammers to build the cave instead of making your own project? It would be faster as Ironhammer has much money already.

Torekin · Post by **Torekin** » Sun Jan 13, 2002 10:15 am

grml,we have one member from the ironhammers!ME!and there is is one person in another guild,Tialdin!and the town is built in the name of Ushara,not Irmoron!And the Ironhammers want to built a temple or/and a guildcave!but we want to built a town for every dwarf!

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Sun Jan 13, 2002 11:35 am

Quote: from Torekin on 10:04 am on Jan. 12, 2002
we just want the right for building under the Irmorontemple!

Ummm...please make up your mind or choose your grammar/words a bit more carefully.

I always thought Tialdin was an Ironhammer too, guess not. You want to build a whole town? That will be VERY hard....probably 10000 silver, I think your time would be better spend combined with the Ironhamemrs, but its your own choice of course. If you want a seat you still have to wait one month and please email gods@illarion.de with the link to your webiste so that they can put it on the official Links section of Illarion.

Torekin · Post by **Torekin** » Sun Jan 13, 2002 11:49 am

I will mail him when the page is finished and the banner is ready!he already knows the address!but the page isn't finished,so....

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Sun Jan 13, 2002 12:07 pm

Just in case you didn't know, Bror does not check the link on everybody's signature so you need to email him if you want your link put up. You can also ask for the link to be put up first even if your page is not perfectly finished or you don't have a banner yet. The faster you have your guild on the Links, the faster people will know your guild officially exists.

Leif · Post by **Leif** » Sun Jan 13, 2002 2:04 pm

oh... im sorry, i didnt want to cause truble...
but i ment... in the long-run... we will end up having
our own lands, and we will build a town and such...
i know many are against it, but, we will take controll over an area, wich we controll...
that is my dream... if its caranthirs, i dont know...
and now, udan's back... so... heh... we will see

Caranthir the great · Post by **Caranthir the great** » Sun Jan 13, 2002 2:38 pm

my dreams have allways been smaller than yours , leif :biggrin:
a guildcave and temple is fine by me , maybe room for every member aye?
and then if sufficent funds , maybe tunnel into the dwarftown.

but we'll see... now when udans back i migth have to give all silvers to him , wich is really killing me even though hes my king but still , main part of our funds were collected by me and i havent reicved donations for a LONG time .

i have to start collecting some silvers for myself , cause if udan takes all the silvers i would have 0 gps in my treasory.

every single piece of silver collected by me has gone into the guild funds.

Erdrick · Post by **Erdrick** » Sun Jan 13, 2002 9:21 pm

Dwarf town is gonna be underground??
That would be pretty impressive!
I might decide to live there *g*

Peace Keeper · Post by **Peace Keeper** » Mon Jan 14, 2002 3:22 pm

so, when exactly is the meeting? I just can't wait to see the look on sean's face when I get in there...

sean · Post by **sean** » Mon Jan 14, 2002 10:02 pm

hmmm maybe i will just PM the inivited guests PK i havent decided yet

Leif · Post by **Leif** » Tue Jan 15, 2002 7:55 pm

Anyway... if I see anyone , that is "unwanted" i would
do things to them , they wouldnt belive...
and im scary... just look at my picture

http://ironhammer.topcities.com/members.htm

- click on my name...

hehe... i love to show of myself...

sean · Post by **sean** » Wed Jan 16, 2002 3:12 am

HAHA leif the makeup does make you look a little girlish

you look like what we canadians (ok not all) call wannabe freaks HAHA not you of course just saying:)
man i am soo drunk right now