Don't keep it so real

Loralyn · Post by **Loralyn** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:14 am

I saw in game today that one character said weapons should not be drawn in the town of trollsbane. Why is this? Has this game grown so modern that we've all forgotten that in the day and age this game takes place everyone has a weapon. 12 year old little boys carried swords for goodness sake. Don't keep it so real guys, else all the fun will be sucked out.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:47 am

You been watching too many movies, a tool only designed for killing hasn't any place in the common person's hands. Knives are pretty useful, so are axes, but swords no. Unless your a soldier (having your weapon provided) or a knight (have the wealth) a sword is the least of your needs as a person in the middle ages. Having more than 2 changes of clothes would denote your doing pretty well in the context of how the majority lived.

Baiyan Trading Company · Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:47 pm

Well, the people didn't have swords, or other big weapons. But it was very common, that women, crafters or older teenagers (about 14 years up) carried a dagger or a "belt-knife" with them, in the case, that someone tries to rob them.

Juliana D'cheyne · Post by **Juliana D'cheyne** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:08 pm

Don't keep it so real guys, else all the fun will be sucked out

Thank you! I fear that for some PO's it has already happened.

Lennier · Post by **Lennier** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:05 pm

I have nothing against such rule. It is the task of the players to stay for or against it.

With my limited english i have some problems to understand following right: "weapons should not be drawn". What this mean exactly? That a person grabs for his weapon and point in direction of a propably victim? Or it is only to carry a weapon?

If first is the right, i have to tell you, that we have ingame laws for around 4 years now, which dont allow to fight in Trolls Bane. It is not new, only a question of definition when a fight begins. And this is a political question, ingame too.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:21 pm

Realism is 100% more important than fun, have you forgotten this is a game?

Irania · Post by **Irania** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:22 pm

Fooster, you crack me up. Keep it up.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:38 pm

It depends in what time and what culture you look.
Around somewhere 'bout -x to 1000 the Saxons, in early times a collection of free germanic tribes, had the "habit" that every man wore a type of short sword, the so-called "saxa".
In other time period and places, weapons were forbidden to be owned by owned people.

But all in all, and we can say that again and again :
Illarion is a FANTASY WORLD. It does not have to be "historical".
A bit of logic is alright though.

Lrmy · Post by **Lrmy** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:42 pm

You been watching too many movies, a tool only designed for killing hasn't any place in the common person's hands. Knives are pretty useful, so are axes, but swords no. Unless your a soldier (having your weapon provided) or a knight (have the wealth) a sword is the least of your needs as a person in the middle ages. Having more than 2 changes of clothes would denote your doing pretty well in the context of how the majority lived.

The world of Illarion is closer to Middle Earth than it is to medieval Europe.

Weapons and armor are widely available on Gobaith. There are walking dead and the like on Gobaith.

Also, Troll's Bane is more like modern day New York than anything resembling medieval times(A bit exaggerated, but you get the point).

Mr. Cromwell · Post by **Mr. Cromwell** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:48 pm

But it's partly because it looks so fine and polished. Broad paved streets which are clean, grassy openings, much space and room.. As opposed to narrow, dark alleys as soon as you move away from the main lanes that turn into mud as soon as it rains. Buildings that are cramped together as tightly as possible within the walls of the city, shit and garbage thrown on the streets from the windows.. and so on.

Dunno, if there is anything that can be done in that respect. At least I try to play Edward a bit more medieval by persistantly claiming that the city stinks..

Kevin Lightdot · Post by **Kevin Lightdot** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:29 am

I think it's more this 'government' thing they sorta have in TB, I don't know if it's the same like it was before (around the time Samantha was still around), but it stunk absolutely IMO.

Sure, you can have this partly, I guess they did, but at times they just went too far and too lame.

It *is* a fantasy world yes, but atleast in my opinnion such things should not be *that* bad as they where then(dunno if they still are).

Just my 2 cents, perhaps only one cent worth, but the other cent was tax money.

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 6:04 am

Sometimes we break out in song and dance, just for the hell of it.

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:00 pm

Draw your weapon = Unsheathe it. I agree, there is no reason to get out your weapon in town unless there's a wolf or something, because it just promotes violence. If someone had a knife on their person or a gun in real life you wouldn't be too comfortable maybe, but think if they got it out. I'm sure you'd want them to put it away too.

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:29 pm

If someone had a knife on their person or a gun in real life you wouldn't be too comfortable maybe, but think if they got it out. I'm sure you'd want them to put it away too.

Livin' on the streets is rough!

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:50 pm

Cliu Beothach wrote:
If someone had a knife on their person or a gun in real life you wouldn't be too comfortable maybe, but think if they got it out. I'm sure you'd want them to put it away too.
Livin' on the streets is rough!

It really is

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:51 pm

Dese here are da streets.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:53 pm

Cliu Beothach wrote:Dese here are da streets.

You don't know crap about the streets, boy

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:57 pm

Fooser wrote:
Cliu Beothach wrote:Dese here are da streets.
You don't know crap about the streets, boy

I LIVE on the streets!

Skaalib Drurr · Post by **Skaalib Drurr** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:47 pm

Maybe it would be even funner if people just went ahead and played the game, instead of whinging about tiny issues.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:36 pm

Or maybe you could let them whine alone and go play the game instead of posting that.

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:37 pm

Skaalib Drurr wrote:Maybe it would be even funner if people just went ahead and played the game, instead of whinging about tiny issues.

Maybe you've missed the whole point of the game.

Skaalib Drurr · Post by **Skaalib Drurr** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:00 pm

Arameh wrote:Or maybe you could let them whine alone and go play the game instead of posting that.

Maybe you could let me go ahead and post that about people whining, and play the game yourself?

And Cliu, maybe you've missed the whole point of the game.

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:28 pm

Skaalib Drurr wrote:
Arameh wrote:Or maybe you could let them whine alone and go play the game instead of posting that.
Maybe you could let me go ahead and post that about people whining, and play the game yourself?

And Cliu, maybe you've missed the whole point of the game.

Apparently YOU'VE missed the whole meaning of my remark.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:50 pm

Cliu Beothach wrote:
Skaalib Drurr wrote:
Arameh wrote:Or maybe you could let them whine alone and go play the game instead of posting that.
Maybe you could let me go ahead and post that about people whining, and play the game yourself?

And Cliu, maybe you've missed the whole point of the game.

Apparently YOU'VE missed the whole meaning of my remark.

You clearly missed the point of Skaalib's remark.

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:40 pm

No no no nono no

Jonno · Post by **Jonno** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:44 pm

Woah there Ernies!