Update Fighting System and Monsters

Post by **Nitram** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:15 pm

I did a small update on the fighting system and the monsters. Now i'm looking forward, to any opinions about the changings.

Nitram

Nalzaxx · Post by **Nalzaxx** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:13 pm

Can we ask what you did? Or is it really obvious?

Post by **Nitram** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:21 pm

all in all only some calculations.

Tactics has a smaller influence now. For this reason all characters should be a little stronger now.

Furthermore i changed the Dodge thing nearly completly. Now you should be able to dodge really seldom.

At the monsters i made it possible to run away from the fast monsters like wolves. And the monster mages, do an emote now, when then cast. So you know where it comes from.

Nitram

Enwell van Illdoran · Post by **Enwell van Illdoran** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:31 pm

wow, now thats how i love you nitram.. cool.. nice.. yeah

Miklorius · Post by **Miklorius** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:33 pm

Yeah, it sounds all really good and helpful! Have to try it ingame...

Caldrion Sternenglanz · Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:46 pm

Thank you, oh great Nitram!

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:58 pm

Haven't tried it, but from what you said I think it's a good move.

Post by **Nitram** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:17 am

Today there were some fights. Anyone around who can tell something? ^^

Alytys Lamar · Post by **Alytys Lamar** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:27 am

Leider waren sie immer in der Überzahl

Keine Chance ---
ich werde es bei den einzelnen noch ausprobieren !

Juniper Onyx · Post by **Juniper Onyx** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:36 am

Alexander killed a mummy, and from previous experience with mummies, it seemed very much the same, It died quickly. I couldn't notice a difference, but it was only one fight.

Djironnyma · Post by **Djironnyma** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:53 am

Ich denke Zauber die ohne zeitverzögerung sind, wie Feuer oder Eisbälle, sollten nichtmehr länger den Zaubervorgang unterbrechen, sonst läuft ein Magierduell zwangsläufi darauf hinaus das man sich nur diese dinger hin und her wirft und das wäre ziehmlich langweilig.

Brendill Al'Ad Kàzár · Sat Jul 15, 2006 7:30 pm

Ich hatte heute einen Kampf gegen ein schwächeren Gegner!
Ich hatte ein gutes Schild und eine gute Rüstung, aber mein Char dodgte entweder nur oder wurde getroffen, parriert hat er nicht!
Ist das normal?

Post by **Nitram** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 7:39 pm

"gegen einen Schwächeren Gegner" hilft mir gar nichts.

Aber ich schau mal ob ich was finde, was auf ein Parry Problem hinweisen könnte.

Siltaris · Post by **Siltaris** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:12 pm

Als ich heute bei den Mumien war, sind mir ein paar sachen aufgefallen:

- die mumien sind recht stark geworden. Ohne schild übersteht das siltaris kaum gegen 3, obwohl sie vorher gut mit 5 oder 6 zurecht gekommen ist.

- der Ausrüstungsverschleiß ist größer geworden, glaube ich. Das zerbricht alles viel schneller

- schwerter scheinen weniger schaden zu machen.

- zwei schwerter sind genauso stark wie eines

- das learning-cap ist sehr schnell erreicht. Nach 25 Mumien war schluss. Dabei kontne siltaris vorher nichts mehr von den mumien lernen?!?

Naja, das ist was mir nach einem Besuch um Tempel aufgefallen ist... hoffe es hilft weiter

Post by **Nitram** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:01 pm

Erstmal generell sind alle Waffen schwächer geworden. Dadurch werden die Kämpfe länger. Und das war das Ziel.

Der Verschleiß erscheint höher, weil die Kämpfe länger sind. Da schau ich nochmal danach.

Siltaris · Post by **Siltaris** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:23 pm

Die waffenstärke der Gegner scheint aber gleich geblieben zu sein, oder? Oder sind deren Skills besser geworden?
Ich möchte gar nicht wissen, wie stark nun Oger sind

Post by **Nitram** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:35 am

Von der Sache her sollten die Monster genauso schlechter geworden sein.

Es täuscht nur, weil ich einen Bug im Ausweichen entfernt habe, welcher dafür sorgte, das man zuoft ausweichen konnte.

Eventuell brauchen die Monster jetzt etwas nachjustierung. Ich empfehle mal den PvP Kampf zu testen.

Salathe · Post by **Salathe** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:23 am

you guys completely killed the dodge skill. My dodge is pretty high... i'd say around 75/100 and i cant even dodge mummies with leather armor on. Right now the dodge skill is worthless, and the agility attribute is pretty pointless now

I suggest going back to the way it was

Silo · Post by **Silo** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:47 am

I agree, dodging played a *huge* role in medieval battle, so why not here? It's based around armor and swords, so they have nearly the same basis.

Jalen Noel · Post by **Jalen Noel** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 5:45 am

Is it just me, or are mummies hitting a lot faster than they used to? It seems like the shots are a lot more rapid. I also noticed, during an attack on town, that a skeleton was able to kill me in just TWO hits! Now, I've fought skeletons before, and they've NEVER done anything remotely close to that. Was it some kind of glitch, or are their different levels of skeleton?

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 5:54 am

There are more mummies and undead in the crypt but to be they seem weaker. I walk out of there without even a centimeter off my health.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:46 pm

Jalen Noel wrote:Is it just me, or are mummies hitting a lot faster than they used to? It seems like the shots are a lot more rapid. I also noticed, during an attack on town, that a skeleton was able to kill me in just TWO hits! Now, I've fought skeletons before, and they've NEVER done anything remotely close to that. Was it some kind of glitch, or are their different levels of skeleton?

Maybe it was the odd magical skeleton I encontered in town, no NPCs can kill a fighter in 2 hits.

Post by **Estralis Seborian** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:52 pm

no NPCs can kill a fighter in 2 hits

Some just need one. At least before this update, haven't checked those uber monsters yet.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:55 pm

Well, an armored fighter with over average constitution getting killed in 2 hits? Never seen that

Fjaen Greybone · Post by **Fjaen Greybone** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:58 pm

I agree with Salathe anyway. Old fighting system and old learning system. I had no trouble or problems at all.

Arameh · Post by **Arameh** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:12 pm

The fighting system is getting worked on so I think we could wait a bit before wanting to get it back like before. The learning system I really dont know, seems like we are making a new each week and its always having more problems..maybe we should FINISH it and THEN implement it.

Post by **Nitram** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:32 pm

Salathe wrote:I suggest going back to the way it was

The answer is simple:

NO

Salathe · Post by **Salathe** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:40 pm

Well i didnt mean have everything go back, just dodging. Or atleast make it easier to dodge. Dodging right now is really bad, especially if i cant even dodge mummies in leather armor. Maybe make it about half as easy as it used to be?

And i fought that skeleton too Jaeln, got me in 3 hits. Maybe it was a magic one, they still seemed to be glitched, so you cant tell that they are casting magic, and they cast very fast.

Post by **Nitram** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:56 pm

Before is was bugged. And for this reason it was possible to dodge every single hit.

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 5:00 pm

about the magic using skeletions. if there is an Emote for magic casting monsters, it isn't working with them. still silent and still invisable casting.