A Question Of Dye Making?

Daashi · Post by **Daashi** » Tue May 02, 2006 12:36 pm

Okay I have figured out how to create green dye, and what I needed to create it.

But how does one transfer the dye into a bottle? Because I need my bucket back.

And before anyone suggest going to the game and asking around, I must tell you that the sever and I are having difficulties. When do I manage to connect to it, it is lag city. I can't move, can't talk, then every 30 seconds I get bombarded with the conversation of those around me.

Linella Fienn · Post by **Linella Fienn** » Tue May 02, 2006 12:49 pm

I think you have to buy a new Bucket.

You can't transfer the dye into a Bottle. The dye will stay in your Bucket until somebody have dyed some Clothes.

Daashi · Post by **Daashi** » Tue May 02, 2006 1:23 pm

Drat, do you know how long a search for someone who a bucket or could make one.

I had assumed that since you could buy bottles of dye you could tranfer them to a bottle.

Linella Fienn · Post by **Linella Fienn** » Tue May 02, 2006 1:56 pm

I'm sure, you will find a Carpenter. It's not that hard...

Miklorius · Post by **Miklorius** » Tue May 02, 2006 3:29 pm

I think the system with all the liquid bins is a bit strict:
You can't drink directly out of some bottles and each drink needs it's own mug. And you can't empty buckets with dye...

Keikan Hiru · Post by **Keikan Hiru** » Tue May 02, 2006 3:34 pm

A matter of aviable graphics, and if you think about it you will understand.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Tue May 02, 2006 8:06 pm

Miklorius wrote:I think the system with all the liquid bins is a bit strict:
You can't drink directly out of some bottles and each drink needs it's own mug. And you can't empty buckets with dye...

Each drink needs its own mug? This is simply not true. You can use wine glass, wooden goblet, goblet, iron goblet, copper goblet, and gold goblet for cider/mead/wine. You still need beer mugs for beer though.
Also, you dye cloth with the dye, that is how you get dye out of buckets. Find a tailor with a stirring rod and white cloth to help you out.

Miklorius · Post by **Miklorius** » Tue May 02, 2006 9:38 pm

Gro'bul wrote:Each drink needs its own mug? This is simply not true.

Okay, sorry then. I drink not often and remember that I wanted to drink something and had the wrong mug.

Also, you dye cloth with the dye, that is how you get dye out of buckets. Find a tailor with a stirring rod and white cloth to help you out.

Yeah, but why it is not possible to empty a bucket with dye like a bucket with water?

Linella Fienn · Post by **Linella Fienn** » Tue May 02, 2006 9:55 pm

Hm..go to the river and empty a bucket with dye. what will happen? yes, the dye would arrive the groundwater. would that be good?

Miklorius · Post by **Miklorius** » Tue May 02, 2006 9:59 pm

Mmhh... and then the water from all the springs will be green and tastes like cabbage?!

Adano Eles · Post by **Adano Eles** » Tue May 02, 2006 10:37 pm

There was no chemistry in the middle ages. Natural dyes wouldn't damage nature.

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Wed May 03, 2006 1:09 am

There was no chemistry in the middle ages.

Wrong. There was. It was called alchemy. And they had many of the today known stuff

Azuros · Post by **Azuros** » Wed May 03, 2006 1:18 am

they did have chemistry, though it was more organic and not so synthetic, they were doing electron stuff....i forgot what it was called but it was chemistry

and not to mention the people that tried the alchemy that tried to turn lead to gold, they tried that for a long time

too bad there was no success in that.....

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Wed May 03, 2006 1:42 am

Miklorius wrote:Yeah, but why it is not possible to empty a bucket with dye like a bucket with water?

So you don't loose money by accidentally clicking on it? Don't make dye if your not going to dye anything, thats just logic. Also to avoid powergaming of alchemy, who makes tons of dye and dumps it in a river or on the ground? You can work together at the same time with a tailor who can make green cloth and simply use the bucket over and over too.

Adano Eles · Post by **Adano Eles** » Wed May 03, 2006 10:00 am

Samantha Meryadeles wrote:
There was no chemistry in the middle ages.
Wrong. There was. It was called alchemy. And they had many of the today known stuff

What I meant is, they did not have hydrochloridepolycarbobenzoate- stuff that couldn't be processed biologically and hence polluted the environment.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Wed May 03, 2006 11:09 am

Adano Eles wrote:What I meant is, they did not have hydrochloridepolycarbobenzoate- stuff that couldn't be processed biologically and hence polluted the environment.

Mercury and lead were used alot, those alone could pollute easily. But, since we are talking about dyes, some materials commonly used in midieval dyes are indeed hazardous. Metal salts, used as mordants in dying with the adjective dying process, are pretty bad. Heres a list of potential problems:carcinogenicity, reproductive and developmental toxicity, neurotoxicity. Aluminum and iron metal salts were the ones mostly used. How do I know that? Uhm, lets just say I was curious some days many months ago, and I did alot of research on medieval dyes. Just do a bit of googling.

Misjbar · Post by **Misjbar** » Wed May 03, 2006 11:33 am

And women used a deriative with lead in it to make their eyelashes white. They often had lead-poisoning.

Daashi · Post by **Daashi** » Wed May 03, 2006 11:51 am

Okay thanks for the help everyone but I need not worry I seem to have stumbled upon a stash of butckets in the lakes. And Jeremy sold me a couple for a reasonable price.

But . . . I would like to know what skills are needed to make dye and to dye clothes. Because I can know I can make dye and I know I cannot dye cloth with it.

Samantha Meryadeles wrote:
There was no chemistry in the middle ages.
Wrong. There was. It was called alchemy. And they had many of the today known stuff

The Lady Meryadeles is correct. Actually alchemy is as old as civilization itself. If it wasn't for ancient Chinese Alchemists we would not have gunpower. And a lot of make up, and everything else for that matter, was made using toxic substances.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Thu May 04, 2006 6:44 am

Daashi wrote:But . . . I would like to know what skills are needed to make dye and to dye clothes. Because I can know I can make dye and I know I cannot dye cloth with it.

Very little skill of tailoring is required to attempt to create green cloth. Loosing of buckets, bottles, plates, bowls, and the like was changed but now it seems there are some bugs in the updated system preventing this. Nitram has been very busy on more important issues lately unfortunately. Like pretty much everything, might take a while to fix this too.

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Thu May 04, 2006 6:54 am

dye is made witch the "alchemy" skill. to dye cloth with the dye is tailoring.

Markous · Post by **Markous** » Thu May 04, 2006 10:27 am

Ever thought of "Al(chemie)" (In German)?

Daashi · Post by **Daashi** » Thu May 04, 2006 10:50 am

Samantha Meryadeles wrote:dye is made witch the "alchemy" skill. to dye cloth with the dye is tailoring.

Thankyou, now I know why there is a large hole between my ability to make dye, and my ability to dye cloths.

Not my abilities, Leto's abilities, lol, the lines are beginning to blur.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Thu May 04, 2006 6:57 pm

Daashi wrote:Not my abilities, Leto's abilities.

First signs of addiction.

Before you know it you'll be saying #me to your friends...

Daashi · Post by **Daashi** » Fri May 05, 2006 2:05 am

Hadrian_Abela wrote:
Before you know it you'll be saying #me to your friends...

Friends? What are these friends that you speak of?