Auction of the Seahorse Inn / Versteigerung des Seahorse Inn

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Auction of the Seahorse Inn / Versteigerung des Seahorse Inn

Post by Markous »

Dear People of this Lands.

My name is Jack Lurbo, and I have come to this island in the name of Fieps and Zasmia, the former owners of the Seahorse Inn in the west of the town of Troll's Bane. They have left this island long ago, and now wish to sell this beautiful inn to make their living in their new homes from the money.

The next Saturday evening (08.04.2006, 20 GMT), there will be an auction held on the roof of the Inn.

Whoever bids the most money will get the keys and the ownership parchment for this building. After this, I will leave this island again and the new owner may do with the building, what he or she wants.

If you have no chance to attend, pick someone you trust and send him to the auction for you, with your money.

I wish you good luck. Meet you at the auction.

~Jack Lurbo~



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Liebe Bewohner dieser Insel!

Mein Name ist Jack Lurbo, und ich komme auf diese Insel im Namen von Fieps und Zasmia, den alten Besitzern des Seahorse Inn im Westen der Stadt Troll's Bane. Sie haben diese Insel vor einiger Zeit verlassen und möchten dieses schöne Gebäude nun verkaufen. In ihrem neuen Zuhause haben sie mehr von dem Geld.

Den nächsten Samstag Abend (08.04.2006, 21 Uhr(GMT+1)) wird es eine Versteigerung des Gebäudes geben, auf dem Dach des Inn's.

Wer auch immer das meiste Geld bietet, bekommt die Schlüssel und die Besitzurkunde über das Gebäude. Danach werde ich diese Insel wieder verlassen. Möge der neue Besitzer mit dem Gebäude machen, was er möchte.

Falls ihr nicht zeitlich kommen könnt, sichert euch doch ab, indem ihr jemand anderen mit eurem Geld sendet, damit er für euch bieten kann.

Ich wünsche viel Glück, wir sehen uns bei der Auktion. Kommt pünktlich!

~Jack Lurbo~
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Post by Drex Thaendrak »

So I return to this island just to see that the Seahorse is going to be sold.
Holding the position of the inn manager in Fieps name it would have been nice to inform me of this before it is officially announced. However I understand that it had been difficult to reach me during most of my absence.
If possible I will be present at the auction to oversee and hand the building to the new owner. After that I will resign from my position as inn manager unless the new owner wishes otherwise.


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Post by Markous »

I fear, you no longer hold the position of the manager over the Seahorse, mister Thaendrak, no matter how bitter it may sound for you. I have both, the ownership documents and the keys with me.

This position is mine officially, until the building is sold. However, you can bid for it at the auction if you like to participate as the new owner of the house.

Yours,
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Post by Drex Thaendrak »

I have no wish to bid at the auction. I just wish to ensure the correct order of this auction. I have been set into position by Fieps himself and did not recieve yet any document telling me otherwise. Until I do I have to assume that I am still holding the position.
Note that I am not trying to interfere with the smooth running of the auction, but I am not going to bow to the word of anyone claiming to be an official representant of the owners without checking your papers myself.
We should meet to sort this mess out in person.

Sincerly,

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Post by Aragon »

Dear Sir Jack Lurbo,

I wish to remember at a contract, which was made between Fieps and the Grey Rose reffering the Seahorse Inn.
As far as I know, this contract was never canceled by Fieps.
Here is the text of the contract.
What shall happen with this one?

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Post by Drex Thaendrak »

From what I know it was the Grey Rose who refused to cancel the contract, Sir Aragon. I tried to re-negotiate this with your trademaster, and he did not show much enthusiasm to step down from a contract which has only advantages for your circle.


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Post by Markous »

Dear Aragon ben Galwan,

Please ignore the man called Drey Thaendrak, for he is not in the position anymore to make any official statements regarding the Seahorse Inn.

The contract made with Fieps and the Grey Rose is cancaled when the Seahorse Inn is sold, because Fieps is no more the owner then. However, if the new owner is in a good state of friendship with you, why do you not try to etablish a new contract like this one with the new owner?

I would also like to add, that only copper and silver are accepted in the auction.

I wish you the best of luck.
~ Jack Lurbo ~
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Post by Drex Thaendrak »

Dear Mr. Lubo,

To me you are just an imposter who is trying to cheat the inn from Fieps and Zasmia for his own advantage.
I am going to protect their interests by all costs, and if this means I have to call the guards to have you arrested then so be it.
It is you who does not have any right to handle the inns business, unless you prove it, which you did not yet do.
As I told you before, all I want is to see the papers which authorize you to handle this business in Fieps name. Until you do I will use my right to ban you from the inn.


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Post by Garett Gwenour »

It would come down to whom has the most recent letter from Fiep's or Zezima. If Drex Thaendrak wants to make a battle of it, the court of Trolls Bane will of course provide him fair play at it. Til then tho, the auction is fair and I encourage all interested to of course try to buy the fine building.

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Post by Drex Thaendrak »

As manager of the Seahorse Inn I hereby ban Jack Lurbo from entering the Inn. He is not allowed to enter the building or handle any business concerning it until he agrees to show the papers he claims to hold to either myself or the town guard. There will be no auction until this matter is solved.

I thank the town guard for their support in this matter.

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Post by Samantha Meryadeles »

Mister Thaendrak, i fear you hold no powers to decide something like that. Maybe you would, if you wouldn't have been away for many years.

The Inn was forsaken, so it will find now a new owner. You don't agree? Maybe you should have thought and cared about this month and years ago.

I fear we will simply ignore you. As Lord Rothman wrote, the auction will be hold.

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Post by Drex Thaendrak »

This is not about me, it is about the rightful owners of the Seahorse Inn. I will not allow that Fieps and Zasmia are betrayed by a man who just comes and claims to hold rights he blantly refuses to proof. I have seen these kinds of betrayal before and I see it as my duty to protect the Inn from falling to such fate. The fact that personal matters kept me away from this island for longer then I had wished does not change anything on the fact that Fieps bought this Inn from Serpardum and holds all rights on the ground and building.

And if Jack Lurbo has really been sent by him then all he has to do is show his papers to a member of the guard, which is not asked too much.
Or would you want to buy anything if the source you're buying from may have no right to actually sell it?

Drex Thaendrak

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Post by Caeldrian »

Samantha Meryadeles wrote:Mister Thaendrak, i fear you hold no powers to decide something like that. Maybe you would, if you wouldn't have been away for many years.

The Inn was forsaken, so it will find now a new owner. You don't agree? Maybe you should have thought and cared about this month and years ago.

I fear we will simply ignore you. As Lord Rothman wrote, the auction will be hold.

Samantha Meryadeles
Samantha i feel you have no power yourself, to decide whether he holds any power over the seahorse inn.

Your friend as always.

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Post by Fooser »

Is it people betraying Fieps and Zasmia, or them betraying the inn itself? They have left the island indefinetly, and in charge is also another person who has done nothing for the building. No promotion, no improvements, and then you come back out of nowhere. If the seahorse is not sold, it will continue to be a fairly useless building, as it has been since the owners have been gone. And no real improvements can be made while the owners are gone, because they would have to approve.

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Post by Drex Thaendrak »

Still nobody has the right to sell the property of others. There is no law I know of which allows returning of private property into communal property because of disusage, and Mr. Lurbo clearly claims that he is authorized by the owners.
Whatever rights Mr. Lurbo bases his claims on, he will not sell the Inn until he can prove that he is holding these rights. This auction will either happen in perfect order of law or not at all.


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Post by Fooser »

So you are suggesting that if they never come back, then they will also own the inn forever? Unfortunately that building could be very useful for all people, and halting it just because the owners abandoned it is innefficient, and hurts everyone in the end.

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Post by Drex Thaendrak »

If the town decides to resell an obviously abandoned building then this is their perfect right. But Mr. Lurbo claims he is authorized by the owners. I can now claim the same and try to sell the building, as can you, and Lady Meriadeles, and everyone else on the island. So wo has the right then? The one who can support his claim with the right papers signed by Fieps and Zasmia. These papers are all I want to see so I can be sure Mr. Lurbo does indeed hold the rights he claims. Until he does I have to view him an an imposter trying to betray not only Fieps and Zasmia, but also the possible buyers. What would you think if you bought the building and then suddenly Fieps shows up and states that he has never given permission to sell the inn? To prevent such situations the auction can only be held if Mr. Lurbo supports his claim.

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Post by Fooser »

I see your point, but the past owners aren't coming back to give someone the right to sell it, so all will need to figure out who it will be.

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Post by Tialdin »

Wehrte Bürger der Insel,

da ich nach wie vor in sporadischem Briefkontakt mit Fieps stehe,
habe ich ihm von den Ereignissen berichtet.

Hierzu folgender Auszug aus seinem Brief an mich:
Fieps wrote: ... Der Tialdin bekommt das Seahorse in seine Obhut zur Verwaltung und ich hoff auch, dass er da jemanden anständiges findet der vielleicht da arbeiten könnt. Damits doch nicht so lange leersteht, is ja schad drum und dann der ganze Staub, wuhu.
Ich denk er ist ne gute Wahl, weil ich ihn schon lang kenn und auch häufig über die diversen Besitztümer mit ihm quasseln konnt und er sich mit Gold und Eigentum auskennt.Tschüssili. ...
Damit bin ich nunmehr der Verwalter des Seahorse Inn.

In dieser Eigenschaft sei nun Kundgetan zu allseitigem Gehör.

Das Seahorse Inn steht NICHT zum Verkauf, die Versteigerung wird
als illegal betrachtet. Ich fordere die Obrigkeit von Trolls Bane auf,
eine eventuelle Anklage wegen versuchten Betruges zu prüfen und gegebenenfalls einzuleiten.

Wehrter Drex Thaendrak da mir Eure Einsetzung zum Manager bestätigt wurde, werde ich diese selbstverständlich nicht wiederrufen.
Allerdings möchte ich darum bitten mir einen Bericht über die Geschäftstätigkeit zukommen zu lassen und mich über Zukünftige Planungen der Nutzung des Seahorse zu informieren.

Der Vertrag mit der grauen Rose gilt unverändert weiter.

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Post by Drex Thaendrak »

Translation:

Dear citizens of the island,

as I still am in sporadic contact to Fieps,
I told him of these occurances.

Here is a short excerpt from his letter to me:
... Tialdin will have the Seahorse in his hands to manage it and I also hope that he will find a fine person to work there. So it won't stand empty all the time, it's a shame and all this dust, wuhu.
I think he's a good choice, cause I know him for so long and could chat about our various posessions, and cause he knows how to handle gold and property. Bye. ...
So I am now the administrator of the Seahorse Inn.

In this position It is now said for everyone to hear.

The Seahorse Inn is NOT to be sold, the auction is seen as illegal. I ask the government of Troll's Bane to investigate a possible trial of fraud and eventually initiate.

Dear Drex Thaendrak, your employment as manager has been verified, it will of course not be revoked.
But I want you to send me a report about the business activity and inform me about future plans for the usage of the Seahorse.

The contract with the Grey Rose continues as before.

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Post by Kerigan van Ildoran »

Eine wirklich gute idee , ich hoffe der nächste Besitzer hegt und pflegt es
auch so gut wie es Fieps in seinen guten Zeiten tat.

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Post by Samantha Meryadeles »

I am sure Tialdin can proof that with showing us the document of ownership? The true owner of the seahorse is the one who holds that. If Fieps hasn't it, and Tialdin not either, than noone of them is the owner.

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Post by Nitram »

Werter Altkönig Tialdin,

Aufgrund der Tatsache, dass ich im Besitz, der Schlüssel und der Besitzurkunde des Seahorse Inns bin, besteht wohl kaum ein zweifel an der Legitimität dieser Versteigerung.

Der Brief den ihr vorgelegt habt, ist entweder sehr alt und deshalb nicht relevant, oder gefälscht.
Desweiteren ist mir bekannt, dass ihr, Altkönig Tialdin, diese Insel nur noch sehr selten besucht. Daher erscheint es kaum sinnvoll, dass das Seahorse Inn in euren Besitz übergeht.

Die Auktion wird wie geplant stattfinden und jegliche Handlung eurerseits dagegen, wird als Illegal betrachtet und mit entsprechenden rechtlichen Mitteln bestraft.

Hochachtungsvoll,
~Jack Lurbo~

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Dear Old King Tialdin,

Because of the fact, that i'm in the ownership of the keys and the deed of ownership of the Seahorse Inn, there is no doubt that this auction is legitim.

The letter you bring before us, is eighter very old and for this reason not relevant, or counterfeited.
Furthermore i know, that you, Old King Tialdin, be pretty seldom on this Island. For this reason it appears sensless for me, that you should own the Seahorse Inn.

The auction will take place like it was planned. All actions of you, against it, will be taken as illegal and will be punished with accordant judicial possibilies.

respectfully,
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Post by Drex Thaendrak »

Dear Mr. Lurbo,

You still fail to proof these claims of yours about holding the ownership deed of the Seahorse.
You will not set foot onto Fieps land until you prove it and show the papers to a town official, Tialdin or me.
As far as it goes now I can claim to hold a dragon in my pocket as well as the ownership deed of the entire world.


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Post by Nitram »

Dear Sir Thaendrak,

I'm looking forward to meet and show you the documents which proves the legitimateness of the auction.

respectfully,
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Post by Drex Thaendrak »

Thanks. I knew you see my position and reason for acting the way I did.
You can meet me at the Inn. I'm looking forward to finally resolve this, too.

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Post by Tialdin »

Mich der Lüge zu bezichtigen ist eine Unverschähmtheit sondergleichen.
Mein Ruf als Rechtschaffener Zwerg ist ja wohl über jeden Verdacht erhaben. Wer anderes behauptet macht sich alleine durch diese Behauptung unglaubwürdig.

Der Brief der mir vorliegt ist bei mir am heutigen Tage eingetroffen.
Vorher hat sich Fieps auf die Übertragung auf Drex verlassen. Nunmehr hat er mich gebeten mich dieser Dinge anzunehmen und seine Rechte zu schützen. Was ich auch gerne für einen alten Freund tue. Immerhin habe ich Fieps bereits in der Bauphase und der Planung des Inn unterstützt, was auf der Insel wohl kaum einer von sich behaupten kann.

Ferner beweisen Schlüssel überhaupt nichts. Als Fieps die Insel verließ gab es auf der Insel noch keinen Schlosser. Aus diesem Grunde kann es keinen Schlüssel geben der wie behauptet von Fieps weitergegeben wurde.

Hiermit fordere ich die Schlosser auf mit dem Einbau von verschließbaren Türen erheblich Verantwortungsvoller umzugehen und die anerkannten Eigentümer über eine solche Maßnahme zu informieren.

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Post by Nitram »

Es ist ebenso eine Frechheit, mich der Lüge zu bezichtigen, da ich im Besitz der Besitzurkunde bin, welche das Recht klar auf meine Seite zieht.

Desweiteren habe ich nie behauptet, dass ich die Schlüssel von Herrn Fieps habe. Ein örtlicher Schlosser hat die Schlösser in die Türen eingebaut. Natürlich nachdem er die Richtigkeit der Urkunde prüfte.

Ebenso hat Herr Thaendrak die Urkunde geprüft und wird ihre Echtheit und somit die Legitimität der Versteigerung bestätigen.

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Post by Drex Thaendrak »

The papers Mr. Lurbo has shown me seemed to be authentic. As such I drop all measures taken and will no longer interfere with the auction. The matter between Tialdin and Mr. Lurbo does not concern me as manager of the Inn. I will take care of the property until the auction or until Tialdins claims are verified and the auction cancelled.

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Post by Tialdin »

Eine Besitzurkunde die laut Auskunft und das habe ich nun wieder schriftlich; nicht vom Eigentümer ausgestellt wurde. Zumal ich zum ersten mal überhaupt davon höhre, dass es für irgendetwas Besitzurkunden gibt. Keine einzige der Regierungen der Insel hat jemals eine solche Urkunde ausgestellt. Einzig Lyrenzia hat dereinst Eigentumsverhältnisse festgestellt und diese veröffentlicht, nicht jedoch Urkunden ausgestellt. Eine solche urkunde kann somit nur eine Fälschung sein.

Da sich Drex nunmehr aus der ganzen Angelegenheit herauszuhalten wünscht, würde mich nunmehr interessieren, wer sich für das Inn interessiert und welche Nutzungskonzepte dahinterstecken.

Ein Verkauf wird von Fieps definitiv nicht gewünscht. Aber einer Nutzung auf Pachtbasis steht nichts im Wege.

Was die Einnahmen aus dieser Pacht angeht wir ein gemeinnütziger Zweck angestrebt, über den noch nicht entschieden wurde. Auch hier
werden gerne Vorschläge angenommen. Ferner können sie dazu dienen Fieps in der Ferne mit Geld zu versorgen, denn auch in der Ferne braucht man Geld zum Lebensunterhalt.

Dennoch wehre ich mich gegen einen Diebstahl in dieser Form immer wehren. Wer etwas erbaut hat, hat auch das Recht darüber zu bestimmen und zu entscheiden was mit seinem Eigentum geschieht.

Wer damit nicht einverstanden ist soll sich verdammt noch mal selber etwas bauen. Ist doch nicht so schwer, haben wir doch auch geschafft.

Dementsprechend erwarte ich Nutzungskonzepte zu erfahren und diese Rechtswiedrige Versteigerung endgültig abzublasen.

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