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When I hear elven language, I can understand many letters of it. But I can't speak this language, using those letters. Why elves don't understand me, when I'm telling a word with those letters what I know? I think, it should be possible to learn other languages.

i think you can with the elven teacher, but i havent found the right commands to say to him for him to teach me something

I agree, I think you should be able to learn other languages if you hear it enough, or at least the NPC's taht teach languages should be working again. One or the other...

But seriously, I think if you hear a word in another langage say 5 times you understand it.. This way we could teach our friends languages

Your understanding of a language may be affected by your stats. Chances are they are working on implementing a language learning system, or at least do it in the faily near future.

I think the Lingo and Fishing system should be very alike in the skill gain. You gain levels in fishing VEERRYY slowly, so mabey you could pick up languages by hearing them alot... Alot.

It would be too open to abuse..

You could park your character at the shop.. and overhear others talking and learn

Also.. maybe you wouldn't want to learn... maybe you are trying to rest to concentarte on learning again...

I don't see how that abuse at all, My character is parked in the shop almost all the time without the language system.

That would be fair, A Recent study has shown that when in a bar (or other place, but especially bar) you learn other languages much faster and better than in a classroom, because people are giving orders, asking questions, and using plenty of hand gesutures to explain themselves. So I feel that you could learn some language by listening to other languages, watching gesutres and such.

Yeah but in Real life you don't get "You can't concentrate on Learnign right now".. you cant go to a tavern to rest.. because you'll learn and overload the learning Cap

Hadrian_Abela wrote:Yeah but in Real life you don't get "You can't concentrate on Learnign right now".. you cant go to a tavern to rest.. because you'll learn and overload the learning Cap

OH OH OH! I LIKE THIS IDEA!! 30 copper for a rest ticket that lets you sleep in the bed, instant concentration regrowth!

OOOH!

No, that would be really abusable. Make some shoes, go sell them, rest, make more shoes, sell them, rest....

In other words, you gain a lot more skill in one day than you should.

No, because then people will buy tons of those tickets and whenever they loose concetration, bam, back to training.

Moathia wrote:No, because then people will buy tons of those tickets and whenever they loose concetration, bam, back to training.

How about you can only buy 1 ticket every 24 hours?

Simply not a good proposal. It would take much too long to implement for what we get out of it, and the effect isn't such a good idea either.

Here's my idea

1) You have a button to the side of each language skill.. if you want to learn it activly, then its ticked... if not.. then you wont learn it

SO if you are an orc, who doesn't know what use elvish is going to be to him.. why learn it?

Good at some points. Here is a chart of my ideas..

Only certian races can learn ceritan lingos..

Orc - All can learn
Human - Elves, Lizards, Halflings, Dwarf
Elvish - None
Halfling - Human, Elf, Lizard, Dwarf
Lizard - None ((zzz sss zksaklsh? =P))
Dwarf - Humans, lizards, Elves, Halfings

I owuld change this

I would make all learnable.. but with advantage/distadvantage

Because elvish i'd immagine is like human, then elves learn human faster

Ever seen an elf growl? learning orcish is slow to impossible,,,

Otherwise leave it to the RP of the player

No, but an elf can learn. Orcs are stupid and their language is a simple one. If anything grunts and a few slured common words. Very easy to learn. ((eg. exp gain is as fast as farming))

Wrong. I'd imagine orcish to be very different than human, and learning to grunt in the correct tone might be difficult to learn. Perhaps Elvish could be difficult for orcs to learn, and vice versa.

My idea in full

Supposed to be a grid:



Sorry but forum wraps text auto

Hm.. make that look neater, it is quite hard to understand..

Mabey.. oh well.. I must spam Calilma's inbox with useless junk! *vanishes in a puff of spam*

If you are power gaming when you first start, does that still count as abuse? because lets face it... you arent gonna go do a bunch of quests if you've just started. even if that is wat your character is suposed to do. You are gonna do some training first.

P.S. does training count as powergaming or is there a difference

http://illarion.org/illarion/us_rules.php#10 wrote:Carrying out an action repeatedly (that does not fit your role) and for an extended time to raise your skill, is called Power gaming, and is forbidden. A worse case is when the player is doing something else to entertain him or herself meanwhile (e.g. watching tv). Examples are to train with other characters without a roleplay background or always hanging around spawn points.

The intention of training is not rule breaking. Doing this for an extended time (in real life you would get tired) without taking breaks is rather cancelled out by the cap. Fighting monsters without armor with the intention of raising skill is just illogical, you would go into battle without armor you had? Nonsense. Its pretty easy to abide by, however if the only thing you do IG is train then you might have room for concern.