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Fishing - Unoffical time waster of Cappy - Fish Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:54 pm
by Capus
Ok, if there is more fish then what im suggesting, please mention it.

It has come to my attention Fishing is the most useless craft in the game. But why? Shouldent it be so that fishing atleast has a decent money making use? Way back when there were Fish Mongers who could fetch a pretty penny. Even a vendor who would buy Salman at 1 copper each would be great. I mean, they do eat right? I remember Eliza saying: "#me takes a small fish out of her bag and eats it" - Wouldent she like some nice trout? They sit there all day and do noting but talk. Im sure they'd apprecieate it if someone brought them lunch.

On that, i will go to another topic. There are only two types of fish. Trout, and Salmon. I would personaly take the time to do research on other types of fish. Besides that, Salmon are a River Fish, and yet one could sit on a dock and catch them on an ocean. Wouldent it be possible to make another tile, make it the same graphics, and replace the ocean tiles with these new ones, that allow the capture of ocean fish? It would also be neat if there were Lobster Pots. To catch.. Lobsters! And mabey even the occasional Crab.

Going into more detial, you could buy a ticket to go on a boat ride. Which would allow you to go onto the docks and take you onto a boat, this could make it so even deeper fish, like the bass, into the society of Illarion. But even better, if people are lucky, mabey some Low-Quallity boots could float onto your hook.

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:59 pm
by Sylathen
My wife caught an oil lamp...

No clue whats its used for o.0

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:05 am
by Markous
Sylathen wrote:No clue whats its used for o.0
Rub it *hint hint* :wink:

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:06 am
by Capus
Lucky bastard.
Oil lamps are used to move rocks. Try using it on some logs.

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:09 am
by Japheth
That was a long time ago. That skill no longer works.

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:12 am
by Capus
So now I can belive that fishing is not only useless, but out of date?

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:19 am
by Japheth
Sorry, I should have clarified.

You cannot move rocks with oil and wood anymore.

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:06 am
by Gro'bul
Reasonable ideas, better get working Capus. Make salmon like 1/5 harder to catch and I think they'd be worth 1 copper to a vendor. You can easily catch a ton of fish right now, its too easy for a vendor to buy them IMO.

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:14 am
by Capus
Better yet, make another fish worthy of Vendor's appitiete.

Fish Diarys Start!

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:07 am
by Capus
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Bluegills
fishresource.com wrote: Bluegills are mainly found in lakes, in the same fishing habitat as largemouth bass. Slow-moving rivers, vegetated ponds and creek pools are also likely bluegill domains. Often feeding in shallows near the surface during the spring and spawning season, bluegills move into deeper waters when the water temperature rises in the summer.

In deeper lakes, look for the biggest fish in deep water (over 30 feet deep) in schools over soft clay or mud.

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Big bluegills average from one to three pounds, and the largest on record weighed four pounds twelve ounces.
Cappy's "Level" Rating:
Regular

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:14 am
by Capus
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Black Bullhead (catfish)
fishresourse.com wrote: Black bullheads (icatalurus melas) are small bottom-feeders able to withstand the most extreme muddy, polluted, and dry lake conditions. In very oxygen-deprived bodies of water, bullheads will surface and breathe the direct air. Bullheads usually weigh less than three pounds, but the largest known bullhead weighed over eight pounds.
Cappys "Level" Rating:
Easy

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:19 am
by Hermie
This is Illarion though. Things aren't always going to be the same as reality. For instance I haven't yet met a real Elf yet. So they don't need to have exact details on certain fish but could, if they wanted, make their own. A boat would be a good idea though. Carpenters and smiths would work together to make good sized boats and then sell them at high prices so that a group of people would be more likely to afford them, thus making sure that not everyone can just buy or build a boat and go off on their own. Although I think there are some islands restricted for GM use only which they don't want people getting to.

Anyway, a lot of implementing to do there as it is, and they're already working on the new magic system, plus the priest and bard (afaik) skills so it would be a long way off before anything would happen. Still, I think it's something good for future reference.

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:19 am
by Capus
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Fishresource.com wrote: The King carp may reach lengths of five feet and weigh up to 80 lbs. Carp are formidable fighters and commonly weigh more than twenty pounds, but the average river and lake carp weigh 2 to 5 pounds. Commercial catches approach weights of one hundred pounds, and some records cite catches of 50-75 plus pounds.
Cappys "level" Rating:
Hard

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:20 am
by Capus
Hermie, this is simply some ideas. I havent gotten a GM or anyone discouraging the idea so far. Once the bard system and magic system are in, then they can worry about fish. I just want Fishing, one of the most popular 'sports' to have atleast some good effect in the game.

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:29 am
by Capus
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Largemouth Bass
fishresource.com wrote: Measured from gill to tail, the northern largemouth has from approximately fifty-nine to sixty-eight scales in the lateral line, while the southern largemouth has approximately sixty-nine to seventy-three scales.

In general, 6 pounds - 12 pounds.
Cappy's "Level" Rating:
Grandmaster

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:36 am
by Capus
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Walleye
Fishresource.com wrote: Walleyes average between one and three pounds, but walleyes in flourishing areas may weigh over ten pounds.
Cappy's "Level" Rating:
Easy


Notes:
In their notes they pointed out how tastey the Walleye is. Prehaps this fish could be a rare treat that would heal alot.

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:41 am
by Capus
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Perch
Extensive stocking of the yellow perch (perca flavescens) has increased the fish's range in rivers, lakes, streams and ponds. On average, perch grow only two or three inches per year. Most perch are nine inches long and weigh less than one pound, but some lakes with sand-and rock bottoms produce perch that weigh over two pounds.
Cappy's Level Rating:
Newbie Delight

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:44 am
by Capus
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This ends my Fresh Water portion
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:58 am
by Salathe
if there are different types of things to catch ((crabs, lobster, maybe some sort of shark/eel/whale)) we need different tools, like crab traps and harpoons, and for crabs and such you need a pier to fish from

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:17 am
by Turonga Mudwater
How I see it you could add a little square of wood in the middle of the ocean, have it be a fishing boat which owuld be reachable by the dock. Ocean fish could be caught in squares around that and only squares around that...that is if this entire thing is implented.

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:25 am
by Salathe
nah... i dont know about that... people should buy their own boats for like 20000 coins, then be able to go out there. And the fish not only fill you up immediately, but they make you stronger too!

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:25 am
by Capus
Im glad to see others are taking this seriously. Im not a fisherman myself, but Capus is, and seeing the same two fish gets dull. I mean, even miners see the occasional gem or gold. A word from a GM would be nice.

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 5:28 am
by Kamik Windslasher ~
Markous wrote:
Sylathen wrote:No clue whats its used for o.0
Rub it *hint hint* :wink:

I did.
Nothing that interesting happened.

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 5:29 am
by Ziel Oden
Kamik = Syl?

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 5:31 am
by Sylathen
Ziel Oden wrote:Kamik = Syl?
I would shoot myself..no offence PO Kamik ^^

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:17 am
by Gro'bul
Good ideas, better get started work on that Cappy. Is there any particular reason you needed to take up a confusing large amount of space when we could use google to find the pics. There are a ton of sorts of fish.

  • perch- very easy
    catfish-easy
    waleye-easy
    bluegill-normal
    carp-hard
    bass- very hard

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:37 am
by Capus
Yes. I dont want to waste the GM's time by making them do the research. This is all (In my opinion) very easy to soak in and exsplore. Not only that they now have images to base the item's apperance after.

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:54 am
by Capus
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Great Barracuda

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:00 am
by Capus
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Great Barricuda
destinationbelize.com wrote: Long and slender with brownish/gray/green color on top, shading to silver on sides and white on belly. Scattered spots on lower side, large mouth, sharp teeth. Found along mangrove shores and in open water. Contrary to popular notions, attacks snorkelers, swimmers and divers only rarely, usually in connection with an attempt to take a speared fish. Feeds on smaller fish. Average size in southern Belize is 7 pounds. Favorite local eating fish. Trolling and light tackle - can also be caught on the fly.
Cappy's "Level" Rating:
Hard


Notes:
Upon Garret's post, i belive there is a 50% chance of this sucker biting you before you can shove it into a bag.

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:02 am
by Garett Gwenour
And dangerous too.