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Korg Blacktooth · Post by **Korg Blacktooth** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:43 pm

Alright i just have to say this so the gms can know but i love that map on the hmepage

Dónal Mason · Post by **Dónal Mason** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:49 pm

Yet gobaith is (still) spelled wrong. Trust me, I speak fluent Welsh.

martin · Post by **martin** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:35 am

Dónal Mason wrote:Yet gobaith is (still) spelled wrong. Trust me, I speak fluent Welsh.

Welsh is spoken in Illarion?

Salathe · Post by **Salathe** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:41 am

we cant get a map of the island in the way you see it ingame can we?

Japheth · Post by **Japheth** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:56 am

@ Martin: Apparently those sneaky players chose a pre-existing Welsh word to name the island with. Gobaith means hope, in Welsh, or so I am told.

As I have said elsewhere, much credit must go to Duath.

Pronon Palmsuger · Post by **Pronon Palmsuger** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:48 am

Whats with "Grey Haven" I never knew that existed. Unless its the Grey Rose castle, which would make alot of sense.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 2:38 am

Pronon Palmsuger wrote:Whats with "Grey Haven" I never knew that existed. Unless its the Grey Rose castle, which would make alot of sense.

Its the name of their castle, which is not the Grey Rose castle. Since also the grey light helped build it! Case closed. *puffs on an imaginary pipe* Also, THE MAP LOOKS AWSOME GJ TO WHO MADE IT!

Cliu Beothach · Post by **Cliu Beothach** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:22 am

It is great, and a nice surprise to wake up to.

Duath did a great job as well as cleared up many specific landmark names.

Silent Tear · Post by **Silent Tear** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:15 am

ME IS FOR REALLY LIKINGS YOUR NEW MAP HAY....

((Brian should catchs that....lmao))

Aragon · Post by **Aragon** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:38 am

The map is really great and looks wonderful ....

but the location named "Hug of Sirani" was in the past mostly a place, where a Zelphia temple was located, which does make sense with all the water around the statue in the middle.
And the north-western landscape wasn't ever in connection with Zelphia as far as I remember ingame history. There took place long ago a quest about the maid turned to stone and it was also a hiding place in different situations. Maybe it would better fit to Ronagan.

martin · Post by **martin** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:46 am

Mind you, this is a hand painted map on real paper. It's not like you load that thing to photoshop and replace some words.
However, maps are not 100% accurate all the time, take it as a contribution to realism.

Martin

Rackere Diplomatre · Post by **Rackere Diplomatre** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 2:06 pm

Great map, and Donal is right, the name was Gobaith (if not Aandar which was the vote winner

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Thalodos Artemetus · Post by **Thalodos Artemetus** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 2:42 pm

I edited the spelling mistake on the map, apologies to the map creator that i didn't get permission, but i don't know who you are

http://img311.imageshack.us/my.php?imag ... map0tm.jpg

Korg Blacktooth · Post by **Korg Blacktooth** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:05 pm

thats hand painted?.....damn thats good wish i good do that *pouts*

Lennier · Post by **Lennier** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:36 pm

Some few places like the 'Hug of Sirani' and the 'Place of Zelphia' are named by me. I used the knowledge of my chars. The "wrong" stories were told me by some EX-GMs some years ago

But i really like the map, the mistakes included *g*

@Grey Haven. In german the castle is called 'Graue Zuflucht'. For a long time there was no english name for this. Some people use 'Grey Haven' and 'Grey Refuge'. 'Castle of the Grey Rose' is a big mistake. Maybe the Grey Light should be more active, to show, that they also are inhabitants of the castle.

martin · Post by **martin** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:48 pm

There is no need to edit the map.
Maps might include mistakes. Show me a bugfree, real map. It does not exist.

Martin

Thalodos Artemetus · Post by **Thalodos Artemetus** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:53 pm

yes, but few perhaps have the actual name of the place spelt wrong. I merely
changed the spelling because some people pointed it out.

Delakaniam · Post by **Delakaniam** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:21 pm

By the way, I'm just curious. How big was the original (before scanning and possibly resizes and such) ?

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:50 pm

Even the spelling does not need to change. The "unchanged" map looks better (Letter position, they're a bit rotated the spelling correction looks dumb)

We can just take it as it is, and use it as it is. And simply ignore the few errors. Same for the name, let's just use the map one =)
I LOVE that map !

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:56 pm

1) I really love the map

2) Having seen the map, why is the dock so far away from Tol Vanima? could we (please) have another dock closer..? For RP reasons?

Post by **Nitram** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:04 pm

Hadrian_Abela wrote:2) Having seen the map, why is the dock so far away from Tol Vanima? could we (please) have another dock closer..? For RP reasons?

Uhm...i think...sensless

The place where Tol Vanima is situated is the only place, where enougth space was, to place this island in.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:09 pm

I was thinking of moving the DOCK furthur upstream, seems wasteful for a ship to cross that much water to reach two islands which could be easier to reach at another location...

I would use the current dock to bring in new players....

Post by **Nitram** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:29 pm

Well then...gather your elfen, and build a new dock

Duath · Post by **Duath** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:19 pm

Thanks for all the compliments

The original map is A3 (42x29,7cm), standard paper, black and red marker, later edited in Photoshop:

http://www.vswr.net/map_web.jpg

For those of you who wish to print the map, a larger file in A4-resolution:

http://www.vswr.net/map_a4.jpg

And for those of you who, for some reason, need the whole thing in A3 resolution, contact me: duath@gmx.de.

Rackere Diplomatre · Post by **Rackere Diplomatre** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:16 pm

Nice to see the original map

Delakaniam · Post by **Delakaniam** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:11 pm

I agree. Seeing the original and then its final transformation is really neat

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Moathia · Post by **Moathia** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:50 pm

If the dock near Trollsbane was moved we would have to walk through the woods with all the Trolls in it to get to Trollsbane, besides thats where the docks were before we had Tol Vanima.

Delakaniam · Post by **Delakaniam** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:08 pm

Either that or circle around and head through the graveyard. What a pleasant stroll either way, eh?

Hermie · Post by **Hermie** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:52 am

Yeah, what a nuisance, can't we just have an airfield and a space station, or is this game discriminating against aliens?

The map looks brill, kudos to the creator.

Ziel Oden · Post by **Ziel Oden** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:23 am

Why do people offer Croutons to people that do good things?

Well, it is a good map. Croutons!