Skills, extras

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:08 pm

I had created a character a long time ago [ a month of so]...

His skills include->

A language called "US" which doesn't work !l us

Smithing AND blacksmithing.. i remember someone saying that was a bug... has it been fixed? is it draining my skill cap

Char Name-> Eliron Sharid

Post by **Estralis Seborian** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:32 pm

No such skill cap here. Where did you get informations about a skill cap from?

Do you want to get rid of the skills? No problem, they are not in use. I can delete them with two mouse clicks.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:36 pm

I heard a rumour...

If you feel like... delete them... [languages> US]

What is that?a bug?

Post by **Estralis Seborian** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:59 pm

OK, since I feel like it, I will describe how all this learning cap-stuff works. I did this before, here is a summary:

Every action that could raise a skill adds some so called "MC-points".
If your char has alot of those MC-points, skill growth stops.
MC-points decrease constantly while you are ingame (fast) or not (slower).

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:13 pm

I was more talking about the skill cap... ie -> total amount of experience you may have... example [1 blue skill and 5 black] <<<=== just an example, not based on fact...

Not the learning, "You cant concentrate on learning right now" thing...

PS: the skill US... what exactly was that?

Jeremy Gems Willowbrook · Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:51 pm

As far as I am aware there is no upper limit to the number of skills you can have in total. You can, with time, max all your skills. The only limit is the learning cap which regulates how fast you can improve skills.

Faramier · Post by **Faramier** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:23 pm

Do attributes play any part in how fast we can learn certain skills?

For instance, my character can spend hours learning in the library but only 5 minutes learning a fighting skill. Is this because he has a high intelligence and low physical attributes, or merly because of the skills he is learning?

Aegohl · Post by **Aegohl** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:28 pm

There are different skill caps for different sorts of skills. Combat has one of the lowest cap points, of course, because it is more of a means of inbalance. (You can't pWnz3r someone with your library research, no matter how hard you read. =D)

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:00 pm

So being skill capped with fighting skills means you can still read up in the library? Or reading in the library uses less MC points then fighting does in turn letting you read for a long time?

Post by **Estralis Seborian** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:06 pm

In fact, fighting creates less MC-points than reading or crafting. But it is one pool, you cannot craft an hour, fight an hour, craft an hour,... Of course you can, but your char won't learn more this way.

The reason why fighting seems to create many MC-points is that when you fight, you a) attack b) parry c) dodge. So, you do many actions in short time.

Aegohl · Post by **Aegohl** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 11:25 am

Ah. My bad. Thanks, Estralis.

However, once again, good thing: can't pwnz0r someone with library research, and believe me I've tried. =)

Pendar · Post by **Pendar** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 1:24 pm

Some one has never had the encyclopedia Brit dropped on there toe.

Brian

Changed my has and had around, my spelling is right now deary ~pats~

Misjbar · Post by **Misjbar** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 1:34 pm

I dropped a dutch encyclopedia dropped on my toe this week?

Misj (edit: the Wuvable Grammarian)

P.S. Being the forum grammarian, it is spelled encyclopedia. I love being an arse about it.

Delakaniam · Post by **Delakaniam** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 5:54 pm

And just since you're both in a small correcting to-and-fro toss, I'll just add in that the sentence, Pendar, is:

Pendar wrote:Some one has never had the encyclopedia Brit dropped on there toe.

Correctification wrote:Someone has never had the encyclopedia Brit. dropped on their toe.

Which, technically, should actually be:

De'am's Grammar Check II wrote:Someone has never had the encyclopedia Brit. dropped on his or her toe.

Ah, the royal bitch, English Grammar

.

And this topic has some very interesting information about skills and skill development.

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 12:10 pm

Delakaniam wrote: Ah, the royal bitch, English Grammar .

Linguo: Sentence Fragment!

Delakaniam: "Sentence Fragment" is also a sentence fragment!

Linguo: (shifts eyes back and forth)......... Must conserve battery power.....

Salathe · Post by **Salathe** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:59 pm

im a bit confused, i keep reading over your posts to see if i can understand but im confused about one this... is there one big skil cap? or sepereate skill caps for everything?

Post by **Estralis Seborian** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 11:48 pm

Neither. No skill cap in Illarion.

Just a learning cap. If you do too many actions in a given time, your char does not learn more than he'd do less actions. Just rest some time (online or offline, please RP in this resting time!).

Salathe · Post by **Salathe** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:57 pm

ooooooooooooh

i see, so if i hit the cap, i can still learn stuff? just i dont learn as much?

Thalodos Artemetus · Post by **Thalodos Artemetus** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:25 pm

you've just unleashed a monster.

Jeremy Gems Willowbrook · Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:32 am

When you hit the learning cap you will learn no more until you rest, (dont use any skills) for a short time. If you stay ingame the rest period is shorter than if you log out. So it is best to stay IG and rolplay a bit while your character is 'resting'. The longer you rest the more you will be able to learn after. A short rest will mean you will hit the learning cap again very quickly.

Think of your learning cap as a bucket of water. When fully rested the bucket is full. You use a skill and some water is moved to that skills pool. (so the skill improves). If you use skills a lot in a short space of time the bucket is soon empty. At this point you cannot learn anymore until you rest. When you stop using skills the bucket begins to fill up again, slowly. The longer you dont use skills the fuller the bucket gets and so the more you can learn.