Multiple fields - cheap killing

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Sun Jan 13, 2002 5:58 am

I have seen this tactic used many times (and have used it a bit myself):

"he logged off there!"
"cast a bunch of fields there!"
"#me forms silent..."
"#me forms..."
"XXX has just arrived"
"find a yellow cross to get resurrected"

And i think it is time to put an end to it. I think that a new technic should be added to the game so that only one field can be cast in one square. This would also fix how you can conceal multiple fields in what looks like one. It could be pretty hard to program, but i do believe that it will be beneficial to the game.

And no, i am not posting now because i was just a victim of this tactic.

(Edited by Astral at 8:02 pm on Jan. 16, 2002)

Inioch Hope · Post by **Inioch Hope** » Sun Jan 13, 2002 6:03 am

I agree with this proposal I have seen it done many times even in the middle of town a few times. I think casting fileds on a spot where some one logged out is very anti role playing. Yes i have used this once and fallen victim to it once but never the less this should be fixed if possable.

korn muphin two · Post by **korn muphin two** » Mon Jan 14, 2002 12:03 am

well.. fields seem to be pretty useless unless you
use only one field, instead of a barrier it would become
a pretty decoration.

Sir crystal star · Post by **Sir crystal star** » Mon Jan 14, 2002 2:29 am

I think this is a good idea too. But you say its a bit anti roleplaying, Casting where someones loged out! but i aslo think its a bit anti roleplaying to start a fight and then logout when your losing. (not much point me puting that, cus theres no much we can do about that). Its a give and take situation

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Mon Jan 14, 2002 2:49 am

Well people don't always log out by their own will either, sometimes they just get disconnected or booted.

Remember a month or so ago when you first came, and I got disconntected before the fight even started and you casts fields on the spot where i logged out? That was pretty low, considering it was also a second char that you brought after the first lost. Well that was ages ago, guess I just feel like complaining...

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Thu Jan 17, 2002 3:02 am

It is MUCH more of a burden than a blessing, so why not take it out? It is not even RP!

Cosmaterra · Post by **Cosmaterra** » Thu Jan 17, 2002 2:07 pm

hmm..

think about somebody cast a field on you.... and the thing you cannot cast a second field on one titel is fixed.... so hurray, you had only stay on this spot/point and your save... one field dosent kill anybody, and if no one can cast there again, your get a save point in the middel of a fight....

greetings...

Lord Dark Sunrise · Post by **Lord Dark Sunrise** » Thu Jan 17, 2002 6:22 pm

I'm confued dyluck?!?

IF your saying i cast with my second player them this appliese...

Dyluck. you saying i cast a field on you with another chr when we where fighing. how could i? At that time i only have Afrix and he's a druid. and i had no othere Players at that time. I'm your if you ask Bror about my Afrix player, he will tell you he's a druid. If this is what your saying then your lieing

Else,

If your just talking about my casting on you and your connection was lost i'm sorry about casting, but when i cast, i cast a few times in one go. so i was probaly was just attacking you and the field where set to cast before you where disconnected.

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Cosmaterra has a good point, I've sat in a filed somes cast and had no damage.

A better aswer would be...

When some logs on, if there is a field on the tile that their on, then make that filed have no effect untile theu move out of it.

Or when a player logs back in. just place the player outside the feild

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Thu Jan 17, 2002 6:41 pm

Fields are not meant so much to be an easy way of killing someone in the first place. And it would just make it more necessary for mages to become better at the sij rune instad of using cheap tactics like multiple fields. And if the mage is strong and can catch someone by surprise, fields CAN be dangerous. A weak mage could kill a really strong person by the multiple fields "bug", does that make sense?

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Thu Jan 17, 2002 6:42 pm

@Dark Sunrise: You had Living Sunrise. That was AFTER I beat sir crystal star, and then you logged on him. You came and then my connection was lost before we started any kind of fighting and then when I came back you had left mutiple fields under me.

Sure one field is not much damage but it can still take of health slowly and you're still open to attack from other kinds of spells. I like the idea of logging a person away from a field, but if a stupid person fills a big area with lots of fields, then it could get complicated.

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Thu Jan 17, 2002 6:52 pm

It is much harder to cast a whole screen of fields than multiple fields in one. It would also give you time to figure out what happened and having a chance to escape instead of as soon as you log in you die. Think about this admins.

Lord Dark Sunrise · Post by **Lord Dark Sunrise** » Fri Jan 18, 2002 5:29 am

Sorry dyluck, i forgot abut living sunrise. I if did attack you will that player to, then that was out of order.

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Sun Jan 20, 2002 10:43 am

Finally something is done about it!

Sirius · Post by **Sirius** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 6:20 pm

@Astral:

If a weak mage cast at a other weak chr, the weak chr will die fast make it sense ?
why can make a weak mage the same field as a strong / old mage make it sense ?

at next we must undo it that we can push cuze you can push a chr from one firefield in another and back again

(Edited by Sirius at 6:43 pm on Jan. 22, 2002)

Torekin · Post by **Torekin** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 7:00 pm

huh?pushing is great!the pushing is tactic!and anyway,how could you push people away than?like thiefs

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Wed Jan 23, 2002 3:59 am

If a weak mage were to cast many fields on top of another, the damage could get pretty high even if one of the fields alone is very weak. This is the scenario:

strong character logs out
weak character cast MANY fields onto the spot
strong char come back
strong char dies

basically like that. Even now that casting two of the same type of field in a row is removed, i still think that NO type of field can be cast on another. Or at the very least you can only cast ONE of each type of field on a square. I dont know how easy it is to program it in, so it is just a suggestion.

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Wed Feb 06, 2002 3:31 am

I am glad to see that no field can be cast on top of another, but there is one small problem that was just introduced:

RA KEL QWAN FIELDS! They can still be doubled up and worst of all, it still looks like ONE field!!!

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Sat Feb 23, 2002 5:42 am

So now there are 2 problems here:

- The multiple ra-kel-qwan fields
- When someone casts fields on their tile

I have just seen #2, but i have always thought that casting a field on yourself was instant death.