logging while being attacked? - espacicaily druids

sean · Post by **sean** » Fri Dec 28, 2001 11:32 pm

not all of us are mages and cannot disapears while being attacked or paralised is ay a new system were when you are attacked you cannot log out until 20secs later and paralised of casted on you cannot log out until paralise stops effect or other magic you can press ESC but your char reamins in the world where he will be most likely continued attacked ( that way after he dies if he dies he can disapear other then that the above rules stay in effect)

Spanaird · Post by **Spanaird** » Sat Dec 29, 2001 12:21 am

Is this becausei logoff when you surrond me and paralyze me?

sean · Post by **sean** » Sat Dec 29, 2001 12:25 am

no there are others to

Lord Chaos · Post by **Lord Chaos** » Sat Dec 29, 2001 2:29 am

This is a good idea. The new encounter with Spaniard makes me think. I cast spells on him and immobilize him, then he logs off. When he logs in, he has time to swallow a few potions and then run while i dont have a wand lock. Oh well, i still got him :biggrin: !

Peace Keeper · Post by **Peace Keeper** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 2:57 pm

this is already happening... I lag, I log, I come back, the deamon leave me lifelessly dead beside some dump of guts from other deamons... and it just keep on happening... However it'd be useful against those, um, rather unpolite people...

Solanin · Post by **Solanin** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 6:38 pm

I say if you wish to remove the logging off dureing a combat, then first remove the abbility for mages to use shields and heavy equipment. It's impossable to fight back against someone useing magic when they twinked and built up parry and carry shields in each hand. You can't hit them with magic, and you certainly can't run away ic. It's not fair for the person being attacked just like it's not fair for the actual person doing the attacking on some guilty murderer who logs off all the time. Can't have one without the other, else it'd make things gay and moderish. Maybe people wouldn't log off if they could actualy fight back against the powergammer?

Leif · Post by **Leif** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 6:49 pm

this is an old discussion...
lets do something about those strong magi's

sean · Post by **sean** » Sun Dec 30, 2001 10:06 pm

i am god damn sick of people saying mages are too strong mages cant wear heavy equip what about druids? druids have amazing slashing and attack capabilities and dont have to waste mana on healing most mages these days wear wands any ways and besides its not very real if someone can just leave thier "life" when they are about to die

Solanin · Post by **Solanin** » Mon Dec 31, 2001 10:36 pm

Ever think they scrambled under cover of something? I know once a demon was following sol around, and he dove for the bushes in town. i then logged off, since i played it off as he took cover from the demon..but i suppose not all do. And being a druid is pretty meaningless against a heavily armored mage sean. If you can't hit someone without useing magic no matter how high your fighting skills are, it becomes a twinkish thing. I had a high distance weapon skill and wind arrows and never once touched a casting mage because he wore shields in each hand and had built his parry up before pk'ing everyone. It took someone else skilled in magic to fight him, and thus left everyone else screwed. So don't give me that crap "Mages aren't that powerful, it's the druids who are". because magic hurts everyone, and can't be blocked.

Insanity · Post by **Insanity** » Tue Jan 01, 2002 11:43 pm

agreed.
mages are indeed too powerful , and i dont relize why bror still lets em cast with two shields on ..
i've had some experiences with the "paralyse- hept kel -paralyse - hept kel -paralyse ... dead" -cowards
(with thoer) and it was i think even more cowardic than logging out when outgunned .
(and btw mages can/will log out too , if neccecary , i've seen that happening , too)

(hehe , sean , and casting spells is real life? :biggrin: .)

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Wed Jan 02, 2002 1:14 am

What's so cowardly about using paralyze? That's what the spell is for.

Sabrina · Post by **Sabrina** » Wed Jan 02, 2002 1:46 am

First off..

I understand how people attacked would want to Log to avoid the danger, especially when it is NON roleplay attack.

I have to say logging because of an attack IS NOT ROLEPLAY at all.

Yur character goes through alot of hard times.. hard situations and choices. Facing an attacker is one of these.

Yes it sucks when they are non roleplay PK's.. So run.

Now since the stun was mentioned I'll toss out an idea "though I love stun"

Bror Perhaps certain races "such as dwarf" should had a small amount of Magic resistance to start off in the game. As they die it goes away of course, but that gives people somewhat of a chance.

Secondly Magic resistance "except for the old players" is practically impossible to get anywhere near respectable.

So what protection CAN druids have from stun?

Magic resistance potion.

I am SURE this would take ALOT to make.. and I belive it should be very very difficult not only to learn "possibly a very high library research.. and clue somewhere in Illarion and a book that is randomly and rarely dropped by a new monster.

This way it is controled, not in wide use, very valuable AND gives druids a way to protect thimselves "not to mention a great item for trade"

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Wed Jan 02, 2002 2:18 am

I think it is balanced because Druids are often alot better fighters because they do not waste attribute points on things like essence and that. If a mage is wearing two shields in defensive mode, then he cannot be wearing a wand, therefore he would have to target the spells manually. It is easy to avoid a mage who is manually targeting someone, all you do is move around! Both sides have their advantages. Mages can paralyze, while druids can make potions that "are there right when you need them", all they have to do is shift click a potion. Mages have to go through the process of selecting the runes and targeting themselves to heal, which is almost impossible to do while moving. Plus the two runes for paralyze are located so far apart that no mage could cast it and target it at a moving person more than three times before someone left the screen.

Sabrina · Post by **Sabrina** » Wed Jan 02, 2002 11:27 am

Some mages are a bit quicker than you Astral

Still the problem spoke of Pk mages against Druids.. The PK would most likely have a wand and be far enough away that a druid couldn't get near in time.

Secondly sometimes people attack without warning.

Lastly Even if you move around a skilled mage and zap you without a wand. I can almoost go as fast without a wand as I can with a wand "due to time of cast and lag between"

So no offense I don't find a single one of your statments to be true aside from newbie players perhaps.

Caranthir the great · Post by **Caranthir the great** » Fri Jan 04, 2002 5:49 pm

IF (that is if ;) .) i get anymore killed by a mage , i wish that he wouldnt be two-shields-an'-paralyse coward.
if the two shields will remain in the future , i wish that bror would even balance this game so it would be A LOT harder to become skilled mage than nowdays , you can be skilled mage in two days if you know what to do. (and powergame a bit)

Cosmaterra · Post by **Cosmaterra** » Fri Jan 04, 2002 7:06 pm

hmm cara, in the most things your right...

but dont forget or lovely friends around ; sniper from the hidden walls or stones or roofs... (and so on)

tell me one mage who can block some attacks from a wind arrow (or a normal) me for example is always wearing a shield... whitout it im faster dead as i can count...

im also thinking that something speciall for the druids should come,.. maybe a spell to use their mana too.. something like mag res or so, but this decides is at bror and he will find some balance im sure...

and not all mages are like thoer, wich attacks you with his wand walk out the view and cast than 20 spells on you so you can move and got no chance to fight back or heal that fast... (my last dead, act this way... never forget it..)

lg Cosma

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Sat Jan 05, 2002 1:11 am

You can shoot the mage with an arrow. It may be hard in a surprise attack, but if the mage is using a wand, he/she would have very little defense against physical attacks. As long as you have decent magic res, and the person has not maxed every skill, a paralyze spell wouldn't hurt you. I have a good magic res, and i have not yet seen a mage who can paralyze me (i asked dyluck but he said that he didn't like to show off

). It could use a bit of adjustment, but any change and the PK's would use it against us, either way.

sean · Post by **sean** » Sat Jan 05, 2002 9:15 pm

just get some mage res thats all even i got mage res lol

Caranthir the great · Sat Jan 05, 2002 10:49 pm

ooo.

fine sean , if bror gives me full magic resistance , ok then.
but how to get magic resistance nowdays?
training = powergaming , monsters wont cast at you , and with low magic - res , you'll find yerself dead very soon when engaging combat with a player mage.

sean · Post by **sean** » Sun Jan 06, 2002 12:17 am

i got a full letter today from some pkers:)

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Sun Jan 06, 2002 1:45 am

You could magic duel alot of people, and thats how you can get it.