Concerning yesterdays and todays events

martin · Post by **martin** » Mon May 31, 2004 8:10 pm

Due to the events of yesterday concerning Northerot and the fight between Hagen von Rabenfeld and Torgen Vanndal, and because of other problems such as misuse of GM power, doubtful roleplaying behaviour and internal reasons, Keikan Hiru will no longer be a gamemaster in Illarion.

Martin, officially (I hope I speak in the name of the whole staff of Illarion)

Keikan Hiru · Post by **Keikan Hiru** » Mon May 31, 2004 8:23 pm

I wished to make this announcement myself, after I recived my order to take my hat from the staff, but martin was a tad faster than myself.

I already apologized to everyone directly affected by my wrong actions, and I now bear and accept the consquences.

Good luck for the team in thier future efforts to improve and enlarge Illarion as whole, game and community.

Have fun in Illarion to all players and always remember:

You all are playing together as community.

Nartak Ironmaster · Post by **Nartak Ironmaster** » Mon May 31, 2004 8:42 pm

I wish you best luck for your future way Keikan...

Have fun

martin · Post by **martin** » Mon May 31, 2004 8:46 pm

He didn't say that he leaves Illarion.
It's just that he lost his rights as a GM.

Martin

The Returner · Post by **The Returner** » Mon May 31, 2004 8:55 pm

Keikan was fired?

bit of a fill in here...? o.O

Moyáve · Post by **Moyáve** » Mon May 31, 2004 9:04 pm

I'm sorry you're being dismissed, Keikan. Despite everything I said about you being a bi..*coughs* I thought you did a great job.

Willum · Post by **Willum** » Mon May 31, 2004 9:42 pm

First we lose our best rprs next we lose our best Gms.........and yes Keikan i think your one of the best. Hey make Keikan a char and let him play.

Crosis · Post by **Crosis** » Mon May 31, 2004 10:08 pm

Whoa, never thought the day would come...

Grant Herion · Post by **Grant Herion** » Mon May 31, 2004 10:32 pm

WHOA,
hey crosie... you said you would come back when this happened... lol, Grant can use 'you-know-who'...

Grubba · Post by **Grubba** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 6:37 am

Sorry Keikan

, maybe you will still log in once in a while?

I wonder what happened..... I always miss everything good.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 7:54 am

Thats too bad, he's always been one of the more active gm's among the players. At least as far as I've seen. Give'm hell ol boy.

Misjbar · Post by **Misjbar** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 1:56 pm

You will be dearly missed. Glad you were harsh in the RPG board. Was needed sometimes.

And, btw, will there be a new GM, or will he just leave and noone instead?

Josefine da Vince · Post by **Josefine da Vince** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 4:10 pm

Even though he had some conflicts in the past, I always was glad that at least one GM was always there to do something

I hope you don't leave completly, it would be a great loss for Illarion and Trolls Bane

Hope to see you online ...

1d20 · Post by **1d20** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 5:11 pm

Aww! I didn't nkow you well enough Keikan, but.. Can't you give him another chance? I don't know... anyways... Good Luck!

Nanuk · Post by **Nanuk** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 6:39 pm

Keikan,

it is very sad, that it has to come that far. But as already mentioned, I see no other solution.
Neverthless, I would like to thank you for your efforts and dedication you have put into Illarion. One tends to see only the bad side when something has gone the wrong way. Your good deeds will be remembered even though they will leave a bitter taste. Sadly you have to blame yourself for this.

Good luck, where ever you may go.

Val De Gausse · Post by **Val De Gausse** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 8:55 pm

Whoa...I think I have enough for a conspiracy.

Kasume · Post by **Kasume** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 9:43 pm

Keikan was always sorta meanish to me...

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 10:14 pm

Hahahaha. Try me, Val. I love conspiracy theories.

Val De Gausse · Post by **Val De Gausse** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 10:19 pm

Hehehe, I was just joking...but *shifts his eyes* There are against val!

Alice · Post by **Alice** » Wed Jun 02, 2004 12:18 am

Any time I asked you a question you answered it. I'm sorry you are no longer a GM...

But no worries, I will still look to you for advice.

Moskher Heszche · Post by **Moskher Heszche** » Wed Jun 02, 2004 2:41 am

Although Martin is by far my favorite GM (also my favorite wise ass Austrian

), Keikan came in a very close second. I never got a chance to talk to him, really, but he seemed very actively involved with the roleplaying aspects of the game, and I respect that. Too bad.

1d20 · Post by **1d20** » Wed Jun 02, 2004 8:52 am

I think Keikan should be given another chance. Yes, he did an error he shouldn't. But I'm am sure at a 100%, that EVERY one of us has made a mistake, and blame ourselves for that. I'm sure that even the GMs (even you martin

) did mistakes, yet, it had not gone as far as removing his GM power. I am powerless to this decision, but maybe it should be though again about it. Nevertheless, his actions should be punished, maybe, removing his GMs power for a certain period of time?
The decision is not mine.

Fool me once, Shame on you.
Fool me twice, Shame on me.

martin · Post by **martin** » Wed Jun 02, 2004 9:17 am

Since none of you knows the reason why he was dismissed as a GM, you cannot judge that.
I am sorry, but for what he has done, this is the least of all consequences.
At the moment, there is no other possible consequence than taking all his rights from him.
As for the other GMs: True, everyone makes mistakes (except me). We know that and we consider that. Keikan knew that, as soon as someone noticed what he has done, he would not be a GM anymore. He did that in full awareness. And hell, we didn't kill him or deleted his characters, we only took away some of his rights. I am against death penalty, you know.

Martin

1d20 · Post by **1d20** » Wed Jun 02, 2004 12:18 pm

I guess you are right martin, I do not know that much about his errors, all I know is that he misused his GMs power and reacted in a non-RP manner. But yet, for the part where you say that you do not make mistakes, I quote :
"As for the other GMs: True, everyone makes mistakes (except me)."
No offense, but this is totaly untrue. I am sure everyone makes mistakes. No one is perfect. I absolutely do not blame you in any manner of doing mistakes or errors, as I am surely worst than you. But yet, it IS a mistake of saying that one does no mistakes in life. I think I am old and mature enough to understand that.

This topic is getting OOC. I think it should be locked.

Galim · Post by **Galim** » Wed Jun 02, 2004 12:25 pm

ever heard of something called "joke"?

Christiana · Post by **Christiana** » Wed Jun 02, 2004 12:32 pm

no no no, martin makes no mistakes!

(exception: in rl by the game "mist!"

)

martin · Post by **martin** » Wed Jun 02, 2004 12:44 pm

Nartak Ironmaster · Post by **Nartak Ironmaster** » Wed Jun 02, 2004 12:59 pm

Mist happens

Grant Herion · Post by **Grant Herion** » Wed Jun 02, 2004 3:46 pm

Yeah, I am not that sad for Keikan. I knew he was abusing his GM powers, most of the movement knew he was doing. There were plenty of signs about it. I just find it sad that he gets in trouble when he does it to lyrenzia people...

Bloodhearte · Post by **Bloodhearte** » Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:01 pm

Erm...Keikan made no OOC mistakes while the Movement was around...he didn't log in as anybody to kill Movement characters. In fact, weren't uber powers given to Grant by GMs at some point...?