~ Building Rules / Bauregeln ~

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:02 pm

A couple of questions:

1) I think it was mentioned before, not sure if it was answered, will Naldor logs be stackable eventually?

2) Let's say there is a 1 story building, and an add-on is accepted to make a second floor. Do they lose credit for the roof materials + money paid for the first level roof, or is it just allowed to not pay for it again?

Korm Kormsen · Post by **Korm Kormsen** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:14 pm

questions:

hedges/hecken
wine/wein/berries/beeren

sind die pflanzbar oder baubar?
are they built, or planted?

Post by **Nitram** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:16 pm

Fooser wrote:1) I think it was mentioned before, not sure if it was answered, will Naldor logs be stackable eventually?

Now it is

Retlak · Post by **Retlak** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:17 pm

there was also another type of simple log.. i forgot which or if it was changed.. either apple of conifer were not stackable...

swish1 · Post by **swish1** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:18 pm

Wait, how did we get from building rules to stackable logs?

Skaalib Drurr · Post by **Skaalib Drurr** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:19 pm

Because to build, you have to gather large amounts of naldor wood, which is hard to do if they are unstackable

Azuros · Post by **Azuros** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:19 pm

because logs are needed for building....

Richard Cypher · Post by **Richard Cypher** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:36 pm

Retlak wrote:there was also another type of simple log.. i forgot which or if it was changed.. either apple of conifer were not stackable...

Hmm aplle and conifer are both stackable

I think you mean cherry tree logs.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:55 am

Just a few thingerdingers:

http://illarion.org/illarion/us_build_rules.php wrote: Wine barrel

* 40 oak wood, 20 nails

# Loom

* 10 long wooden stacks, 50 thread, 1 scissor, 1 needle
Altar

* 150 brickstones, 20 cloth, 3 Kelche

Firstly, oak wood doesn't exist.
Second, whats a wooden stack? I see many use it but I have no idea what that is.
Third, need translation of Kelche

Korm Kormsen · Post by **Korm Kormsen** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:50 am

those cups with small diameter stems are "kelche"
or the holy grail is "the" kelch.

chalice or goblet should be the right translations

Post by **Nitram** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:30 pm

Translations changed.

And oak wood does not exsist? O.o

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:35 pm

Nitram, do you know the answer to this?

Fooser wrote: 2) Let's say there is a 1 story building, and an add-on is accepted to make a second floor. Do they lose credit for the roof materials + money paid for the first level roof, or is it just allowed to not pay for it again?

Or is that a map team decision? or? Just wondering for possible future planning.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:39 pm

Nitram wrote:Translations changed.

And oak wood does not exsist? O.o

Conifer wood?

Lennier · Post by **Lennier** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:56 pm

Fooser wrote: 2) Let's say there is a 1 story building, and an add-on is accepted to make a second floor. Do they lose credit for the roof materials + money paid for the first level roof, or is it just allowed to not pay for it again?

If anyone builds a house with only 1 floor and later he want to make a second floor he could use the roof, of course. Only if he wants to change the tiles he has to pay more. And of course a new roof at the second floor is needed.

@Grobul: Wooden stacks are long handles.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:21 pm

If I understand right, if a 2nd floor were to be added, the roof would count as the FLOOR of the 2nd floor, while having to buy the walls and a roof onto the second floor?

Garett Gwenour · Post by **Garett Gwenour** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:14 am

You would need to pay for the roof to change into the 2nd floor if you only made a 1 story first. It would save you money to go straight to 2 floor building.

Lennier · Post by **Lennier** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:37 pm

garett is right, yes..

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:46 am

Gro'bul wrote:Just a few thingerdingers:

http://illarion.org/illarion/us_build_rules.php wrote: # Loom

* 10 long wooden stacks, 50 thread, 1 scissor, 1 needle
Second, whats a wooden stack? I see many use it but I have no idea what that is.

WTF IS A WOODEN STACK?!

Taliss Kazzxs · Post by **Taliss Kazzxs** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:08 am

look up about four posts

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:20 am

Taliss Kazzxs wrote: look up about four posts

There is no such item "long handle", at least not on the english version.

2 kinds of large handles, sword handle, big sword handle, dagger handle, shovel handle, scythe handle, staff handle, long staff handle, sickle handle, hammer handle, small handle, mace handle, morning star handle.....

Which one?

Skaalib Drurr · Post by **Skaalib Drurr** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:12 am

There is a long handle, used in making long axes and the like. I think anyway

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:05 am

2 kinds of large handles, sword handle, big sword handle, dagger handle, shovel handle, scythe handle, staff handle, long staff handle, sickle handle, hammer handle, small handle, mace handle, morning star handle.....

Which one?

I think its this one, its the only one with 'long' in its name..

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:23 pm

Lennier and Nitram, give me free stuff plz

Samantha Meryadeles · Post by **Samantha Meryadeles** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:23 pm

You forgot the butt kissing. tz, do you never learn?

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:30 pm

Pff, I ask nicely

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:47 pm

Sorry to steal the thunder and sound ungrateful, but what IS the use of a house anyway? Apart from the status I mean....

Korm Kormsen · Post by **Korm Kormsen** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 5:00 pm

question:

to me it seems, that the walls are one tile thick.
if that is correct, are these tiles counted as well, when calculating a floor?

example:
house 10 x 10 = 100 tiles.
walls 36 tiles. (minus doorspaces(?))
so does one need material for 100 floortiles or for just 64?

how many rooftiles has a 10 x 10 house? 100 or 142?

a cellar, may it have more squaretiles than the house above?

korm

hadrian,

you can lock yourself in, when the bad boys come after you.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 5:03 pm

I think the floors are counted for the wall also, or at least I think so..

7x7 house example

49 floor tiles
49 roof tiles
26 wall (perimeter)

Korm Kormsen · Post by **Korm Kormsen** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 5:06 pm

not 24 tiles for walls?

swish1 · Post by **swish1** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:06 pm

Wait are pins nails?