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The message has been sent, sorry it took so long for me to read the topic, I had a part"ay" last night. About Paul joining the Rangers, he has a shady history.... including alledgedly repeatedly killing someone.

I was falsely accused. There was never any good evidence supporting it, and there were even witnesses who saw that i didn't do it. But, most of the witness were banned.

I have heard some pretty 'bad' things about Paul Laffing too, so I don't agree on his joining.

Meanwhile, feel free to direct any questions, concerns, or comments to me via a private messenger.

Frowns. I guess i might as well not try, as i doubt you will let me in. Walks off muttering of his misfortune.

To all Rangers,

Due to the recent attacks by Ashkatuul it is becoming more and more necessary for people to be able to defend the town. In light of these recent events, I believe that it is becoming more and more necessary for The Rangers as a whole and individual Rangers to be more active in order to prevent our town from utter and total destruction. I encourage everyone to be in town more often, in order to defend it.

Yours, Roke

How about the meeting takes place at "The Seahorse". I believe I can compensate Fieps for letting us use a room, even if he doesn't know and the place is fairly quiet...

I guess that would be alright, but it isn't always that quiet... We'll go there first though.

As a representative of the Hobbiteers I would like to make an alliance with the Rangers. I think all the guilds should join each other and begin to take down every mirror in town. Besides when Drahken's forces attack again we will need every person we can get. So, please respond.

To the High Council,

I am personally against such an alliance with the hobbiteers as some of their members are "protecting the town" and accusing people who may or may not have mirrors. Thank you for listening to my oppinions.

My Regards,
Roke

hey Roke, tell me, which one of the Patrol officers attacked a person who had a mirror? Hey I'll answer, none. We haven't attacked anyone. None of us have, we are trying to BUY the mirrors from people who have them so we don't have to kill them. Take Dunthor for instance, YOU wanted to kill him and chase him out of town. And then take Athin, he attacked Khalime and set fires to portions of the town. Did we kill him NO we didn't because he didn't need to die. Roke you blinded and I already told you about the Patrol Force. Infact you set me up. You told me to try and make an alliance with the Rangers guild first. I thought I could trust you. I guess I'll think twice before telling you anything Roke.

Who are the "Patrol Officers" or "Patrol Forces"?

It`s an own, official group of our isle? Why i never heared about them?

Or, they are part of the Hobbiteers? - No, that can not be. I saw an drawf you said, he is a "Patrol Officer."

Who makes you to the "Protectors of the Town." Who gives you the right, to say "We are the Town Patrol"? Who gives you the orders for your doing?


There are enough, who have the same aims, to get a community with peace and freedom. But noone of them say "We are the Town Patrol."

Lennier,
noble knight and trademaster of the Grey Rose

really, who is defending the town right now in this time of Crisis? I don't see 1 ranger helping. the Patrol Officers are the force that is taking mirrors out of peoples hands and destroying them.

I NEVER said to make an alliance with the Rangers, my words were to communicate with the older guilds so you can improve your image.

yes you did. You said to go the Rangers first. That is exactly what you told me to do. I should of noticed that you said it about 3 times. Now I understand.

I have spoken to Bloodhearte numerous times, the Hobbiteers bought the mirror(s?) from Dunthor, that is what Crosis told me, not the Patrol officers.

There are two reasons The Rangers are not doing anything, two main reasons... here they are:

a) The leadership is ineffective and inactive. If the whole leadership was active, it would be effective though as we have seen in the past.

b) We, rather than approaching someone right when we see them plan things out, discuss with members from other guilds whom we have fought beside before in order to plan them out as well as trusted friends who can help us form a plan and ideas on how to neutralize these people.

Once again, I never mentioned the word alliance, I mentioned that the Patrol Force, as well as the Hobbiteers should Communicatewith the older guilds and the Rangers should be the first you should talk to because, although I never mentioned this we are a guild that is completely English and would be receptive to communication, although not an alliance, for sure.

In fact, I am not the one who would propose an alliance, I could reccomend to The High Council who in turn would, in about 2-4 weeks decide if such an alliance is a good idea.

Roke, you aren't effective now, you aren't helping. and how can you plan if you haven't even done a meeting yet? I have been reading your thread a bit. And it seems Roke, that you want to do something but no one else but Astral is pushing for a meeting.
I thought you would be happy to hear that some people are helping, but it seems you just won't accept help or something of that sort. I have been doing everything perfectly. But you won't listen, no matter how many times I tell you we don't kill people we aren't bloodthirsty.

Okay Bumbol, I had heard from some people that you may have.... attacked some people so I regret calling you bloodthirsty, although the way Patrol Officer sounds it may imply that you use violence...

Roke scratches out a part of a previous post of his

And we did hold a meeting... On Thursday in fact.
Also, there were two Rangers present defending against Ashkatuul...

I assure you all, the Patrol Officers are not out killing anyone they see with Mirrors. Actually we pretty much just tell anyone who is causeing trouble to stop, if they don't we paralize them with magic and put them in the maze above the shop where they must stay for a certain amount of time. Besides, you should not include the Patrol officers as part of the Hobbiteers, it is a different organization. Infact some Hobbiteers don't want me to keep going on with the Patrol force, but we must because their are so few who are doing what we do.
So please reconsider on making an Alliance with the Hobbiteers, I am not asking to make an alliance with the Patrol Officers. Thank you.

I would not advise to Rangers to make an alliance with the hobiteers at this time, as one of their key member Bumbol is getting a bad reputation these days. Many bad words are going around about him because of many of his unreliable assumptions and accusations of people he suspects of having mirrors, and calling himself a patrol force, going around and putting his nose into other people's business, making him very unpopular and criticized by many people. The mention of the name patrol force usually brings a negative reaction everywhere. His actions will likely drag down the reputation of the hobiteers, and possibly the Rangers if you ally with them. Some recent examples of his unreliability:

Bumbol Woodstock wrote:people with Mirrors are as follows...
*Amal
*Ultoris
*Brendan (maybe, my intelligence agent may be wrong.)
*Bloodhearte'
*Margol (I am not sure if I spelt it right.)
*Darlok
*Dunthor-had them, but we got them all.

--Patrol Officer Bumbol Woodstock--

Listing people that he says have mirrors when some are only his own suspicion or heard from someone else. Claiming to have gotten ALL of Dunthor's mirrors when there's no way he could know for sure how many Dunthor has unless he stood there counting while Ashkatuul gave him the mirrors.

Bumbol Woodstock wrote:erm... I was just saying you had it, I had assumed you destroyed it... So Amal still has many mirrors... Very well, does anyone know what he looks like? I have never met him.

As you see Amal was on his list, but he doesn't even know how he looks like. Another of his "facts" that he only heard elsewhere.

Bumbol Woodstock wrote:I know those are the names that have mirrors or had mirrors. Darlok what a surprise you are on it. Amal stole a few from you and sold some, but I believe he still has some... I am working on finding out how many are left. Darlok asking for how I get my information right now is dumb, you are insulting me by asking me that, you think I am that stupid as to tell you how right now?

He "knows" they have mirror. Another example of his egocentricism.

Bumbol Woodstock wrote:Someone told me... I don't know that she/he would want to be named so I won't name she/he. She/he told me that while one of the town attacks was going on Darlok somehow summoned mummiess... Which means Darlok has more then mirrors in his hands......

Another "fact" that was concluded by what he heard someone else saw.

Aragon wrote:Ultoris gave his mirror back to Amal.


Aragon ben Galwan
Earl and Templar of the Grey Rose
Priest of Malachin

Bumbol Woodstock wrote:Ultoris no longer has his mirror... He gave it up to Aragon. News as it comes.

--Patrol Officer Bumbol Woodstock--

Aragon wrote:

Aragon wrote:Ultoris gave his mirror back to Amal.


Aragon ben Galwan
Earl and Templar of the Grey Rose
Priest of Malachin

Dear Bumbol,

I think, you can't read, what several people before have said.
It is a lie, that I have the mirror of Ultoris.
He never handed it to me.

Aragon ben Galwan
Earl and Templar of the Grey Rose
Priest of Malachin

Bad information, leading to an incorrect statement and causing confusion.

Bumbol Woodstock wrote:really, who is defending the town right now in this time of Crisis? I don't see 1 ranger helping. the Patrol Officers are the force that is taking mirrors out of peoples hands and destroying them.

Lack of situational understanding. Egocentricism centered on the work of his own patrol force. Not even aware of other people who are contributing and have done so for this town long before he was even here. Thinks that only his own patrol officers help.

Bumbol Woodstock wrote:Roke, you aren't effective now, you aren't helping. and how can you plan if you haven't even done a meeting yet? I have been reading your thread a bit. And it seems Roke, that you want to do something but no one else but Astral is pushing for a meeting.

Thinks he is all-knowing, claiming that the Rangers aren't helping. Claims that a meeting hasn't been done, when one was done last Thursday already, as stated by Roke. Another example of his own assumptions turned into "facts"

Bumbol wrote:I thought you would be happy to hear that some people are helping, but it seems you just won't accept help or something of that sort. I have been doing everything perfectly. But you won't listen, no matter how many times I tell you we don't kill people we aren't bloodthirsty.

Claims that he is doing everything perfectly. Another example of his egocentricism.


Unsinged informant

Who is this so called "informant" that is always anonymous? Who is such a one to go around always critizing people calling people "egocentric" and other things? I think that such an unknown person should not be trusted and viewed with a careful eye at best. So far this one has never revealed his/her identity but has always gone under the cover of "anonymity" to criticize and hurt people with words.

As you can all check for yourselves, every one of Bumbol's words that I wrote here can be found in recent discussions on the boards. Whether or not I can be trusted is not even a relevant issue here. Elaralith claims that I "always" go around criticizing people when it was only her that had been criticized by an anonymous person recently which she probably assumes to be me, so now she wants to criticize me back. She is probably just still bitter about her unpriestly ways being brought to light and isn't really as sorry as she wants others to believe.

Unsigned informant

As far as I watched the hang-outs of this "Guardian Angel" over the years living in the town, he seemed to be a wise man or woman, which is able to find the right words at the right time.
Maybe he is the herold of a god, watching over the town to guard the people in the town for making errors.
As far as I have known his words, they are trustworthy and good.
And many times, I thought, that I have to thank him for his wise words at the right time.

Aragon ben Galwan
Earl and Templar of the Grey Rose
Priest of Malachin

So, the "anonymous" one strikes again. To you who so uses the cover of "anonymity" to criticize to for your own pleasure: I do not care for your ways, and such petty things as "critizing you back", "being bitter" and so forth. To tell the truth your opinion matters nothing at all to me, but I cannot sit by and just watch you insult people as "egocentric" and so on so blatantly and unjustly. Hold your tongue if you have nothing good to say, and if you wish to insult and criticize don't be the coward and hide under the cover of "anonymity" in the shadows.

Aragorn, my impression so far of this "Guardian Angel" is not a good one. This "Angel" seems to "guard" using strange ways that are almost cruel. Perhaps this "Angel" is sent from one of the more unkind gods. Whatever the reason for the coldness and cruelty of this so called "Angel", I would say that though perhaps this "Angel" has seen better days perhaps he/she is now fallen from the grace of the gods and Light into darkness and shadow hence his/her actions.

What a coincidence! That of all people Elaralith, who was criticized by me before, comes to vent her fury at me, while even the honorable Aragon praises my word.
Is it only that Elaralith is still bitter from being lectured for her terrible behavior recently?
And that perhaps her old habits of trying to ruin the reputations of people who've crossed her are surfacing again?
I think we can all see the obvious answer to that already.

The writer grins

Elaralith wrote:To tell the truth your opinion matters nothing at all to me, but I cannot sit by and just watch you insult people as "egocentric" and so on so blatantly and unjustly

Or...perhaps she is just so confident in Bumbol's obvious selfless nature that she just had to defend him against my clearly unjust, organized, supported-by-quotes, criticisms? Even though she did not defend him against other recent fragmented, unorganized, unsupported criticisms, but it must be just a mere coincidence that she picked to defend him on this one, right?

The writer grins again

Elaralith wrote:don't be the coward and hide under the cover of "anonymity" in the shadows.

I wonder why she puts so much emphasis on my anonymity? I hope it is not because she seeks revenge against those who she has grudges against, as when trying to ruin the reputations of Cain Freemont, Niniane, and Sir Gannon.

Elaralith wrote:To you who so uses the cover of "anonymity" to criticize to for your own pleasure

I wonder how she knew I criticize for my own pleasure? Is she an all mighty mind reader or is she trying to insult my intentions? I certainly hope not because I didn't expect such behavior from a priestess of the goddess of wisdom and it would be a mockery of Elara's teachings. If she can't even keep her own tounge from lashing out at other people, how will she impart wisdom to others and enlighten them to speak with reserve?

A true priestess of Elara would not have thrown oil onto the fire but only defend her position along the lines of "The words you speak of me are untrue and that I implore you to cease your unfriendly words to others"
But instead she so obviously chose to try and take a bite at my credibility, intetnions and history as the focus of her words instead.

Unsigned informant

Bumbol Woodstock wrote:if they don't we paralize them with magic and put them in the maze above the shop where they must stay for a certain amount of time

So you basically use negative magic, capture the person, who may or may NOT have a mirror and place them in the mummy maze for them to die.
What if the so called mirror-bearer has no mirror...is perhaps even a newcomer. Don't you force them then, to be clawed to death by the fiends in the maze.

You also go about polluting a person's name. Recently I was talking to some in-game friends, and they all agree that my reputation has been irrevocably damaged by having my name on such a list.

If you had bothered to do research, like a good little Patrol Officer (read Power Ranger) then you would know that my character has a deep hatred for all demonic beings.

Oh well, enjoy your little crusade of defiling names.


How noble,

Yours disgruntedly
Brendan

Brendan said:

So you basically use negative magic, capture the person, who may or may NOT have a mirror and place them in the mummy maze for them to die.

Hmm, as Brendan stated, Bumbol said:

if they don't we paralize them with magic and put them in the maze above the shop where they must stay for a certain amount of time

Zombies above the shop Brendan? And also you missed the important words before that quote, that were:

we pretty much just tell anyone who is causeing trouble to stop if they don't we paralize them with magic and put them in the maze above the shop where they must stay for a certain amount of time

Nothing about if they have mirrors. He does this to people making trouble. It is a shame things turned bad when he started naming names.

Roke writes with a brand new pen which is gleaming in the sunlight

Thank you anomynous person for all of your hard work. You, although anomynous will be held in high regard by myself and it seems only a couple people tend to disagree with you because you are anomynous. All the work will go to good use, as it proves what I was starting to get at, however I was using the wrong words. I encourage you to keep doing what you are doing, even though you are getting some unnecesary and uncalled for criticism.

@Brendan... Are you going to be returning to The Rangers?

Roke smiles hopefully

Cain thinks for a moment after reading the recent messages. Afterwards, he gathers some writing tools and begins to write,

It would seem that this anonymous informant is quite resourceful. He/she has, in fact, proven him/herself quite accurately informed in these current affairs. Though, I do not personally believe that people disagree with him/her because they are anonymous. I believe that it is because these people are having their truths revealed before their very eyes. As one man once said, "the truth hurts." It is not always that the truth is unaffecting, actually, quite the opposite. The truth, when spoken of, is quite often embarassing or insulting to those of whom are spoken. So, to some, the truth may be considered "cold" or that the speaker of such has fallen into illness of some strange matter... People attempt to place blame on others, they do not want to have their realities unfold.

~Cain

Cain finishes posting his message and walks off into the shadows.

Elaralith smiles inwardly as she reads the further blabberings of the anonymous one.
Ah so you admit that you were the one that "criticized" me though it was more insult than criticism. I don't recall trying to wreck anyone's reputation ...but I do remember very clearly you trying to do so to me. As for Bumbol, I know him for a kind hobbit at heart and your unending cruel "criticisms" only serve to turn this kind hobbit into the cold hearted creature you describe. I would ask you to stop your attempts (if they are even attempts) to "help" Bumbol, as you are doing more hurt than good. Please stop undoing the work I have been doing by talking to Bumbol. Again, I don't care at all about your opinions of me as such are truly worthless items in my perspective. I do pray though that Elara shall speak with you as you seem to enjoy speaking of things you don't understand in the area of proclaiming what a Priestess of Elara should and should not do. When you choose to act with courage and speak your words in the Light then perhaps I will have further words for you. For now though I am finished with you as you must be the one to take the first step before anyone can help you.
Go in peace,
~Elaralith, Priestess of Elara~