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Val De Gausse wrote:He wants more! That is that....when you have alot you want more...you don't value things as much.

Don't conclude from your point of view to others.

Grant Herion wrote: Why does this police force have power when others didnt have any such power.
Who gave them this power to ban for their own purposes?
Grant Herion

When were they allowed to make laws without the elected councilors? Lyrenzia made no law banning Northrot or Movement members.

Avrillon

i cannot believe it. ya really don't understand it. the TOWN banned ya. the poeples of the TOWN banned ya. the official GUARDs banne ya. the law giving systhem LYRENZIA banned ya. the defens army of trolls bane, the GREY ROSE, banned ya. Ya just enters, while ya was banned. AND THAT CAUSED THE FIGHT, BECAUSE OF THAT YA STARTED IT: damn, that isn't too hard to understand.


but it is useless with ya guys. i have no more intrests to discuss something which ya what ya will never understand.


Galim

Don't conclude from your point of view to others.

you seem to do the same to the movement members.....

why did you declare it now!? Things were settling down. The ban was bing respected and nothing should have made you angry enough to declare war

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Galim....answer this

Oh Galim, leaving when you you are proven wrong? HAve you forgotten the circumstances in which I came into town? I came to speak of PEACE you damn fool. The war with Darlok was basically over and I wanted to end the ban because, according the Town Guard and their "word of honor" the ban was to be lifted when it was over. And yet, when I go in peacefully, carrying no weapon, even sparing Hagen's life from death by Lenti and Nilo Stubbleknee, I am still attacked and harassed and made out to look like the agreesor.

Grant Herion

did ya once heard that a war need preparations? ya should ask Grant., he is a prince. he should know that.

Galim

The dwarves claim they would not rule Northerot. Then waht entices a victory for them? If they do not claim land, then how will they know if they won?

why did you declare it now!? Things were settling down. The ban was bing respected and nothing should have made you angry enough to declare war

Why are you ignoring me Galim?

did ya once heard that a war need preparations? ya should ask Grant., he is a prince. he should know that.

why do ya cannot read?


Galim

Well I was talking to an elf yesterday, Avrillon was that you?, and he said that many people did not like Darlok and the like. Could that be the true cause of the war? I mean if I was a dwarf and I had an enemy I wouldnt let them go walking around without making them a head shorter. But then again if the ban was being respected there was no real reason to declare a war on innocent civillians but many will be killed if this is continued.

Yes, what is a Victory of Silverbrand of Tialdin against the Movement? When we are all dead? And then what? What happens then? You morn the loses of all those who died for what? They died in killing the evil Grant Herion who, wanted peace, he tries to get peace and then is attacked and propagandized by the Town Guard.
It is a useless war and both sides will suffer heavy loses.

Grant Herion

Galim...the point is that things started looking up for you and lyrenzia the past few weaks....and you still called on a war!

the time we started to prepare all was a time where wcitizens of us were attacked by movement and darlok. well, and other things happened too. should we stop the preparations and forget the things which happened just because the movement was away and needed time to reforce their troops?


a question grant. is it the whole war ya don't like, or just the fact that silverbrand declared war on the movement too?

Galim

The dwarves are tired of the affects of the Northerot war so the dwarves stir up their own war. Very wise decision. Hope you are all enjoyed with the end result of the dead.

In war, the dead pay the prices of the living.

~¤~Kasume~¤~

I am mad at the war....i think it is unjistifed and unnecessary to but it...also when Darlok comes rearing his head you all will back off.

If the problem is with just Darlok, why dont you just set up an ambush for him and his key people, No need to destory the lives of citizens for such a venture. Oh also arent the constables supported by the government to keep the town safe? So if they think that those people coming into town will not only harm other innocents but themselves. Wouldnt that be better than getting rid of the ban because many citizens of trollsbane may have a even stronger dislike for Northrot than the dwarves seem to have. Who knows how many dead would show up then.

He will come back another day adn fight

ya cannot have war just with the leaders of a state. ya have war against the whole state. the citizens of a state or land are their army. thei will help their lord and leader even if the enemy just declare war against their leader. that is really easy to understand.


Galim

The dwarfs disagree with the Northrot Citizens. I would suggest you all try to avoid each other but that will not happen. Well if you all are going to fight just remeber not every citizen in both towns is against you. Do not get into the bloodlust and dishoner yourselves by attacking the innocent. If you really wish for war each person who agrees with either side of this arguement should meet on a fair ground position. A flat plain maybe, then have at each other, the ones left standing are the victors. It may keep the innocents from getting injured in the process

Yes Galim I do understand that, But without their leader there would be no need for any war because the war is truely against Darlok and his key people and these movement fellows

that are the bad sites of war. that there will be each time peoples who don't fight on both sites. and for me, they don't must fight. but how shall we know who wants to fight and who not? one who says today, "no, i don't want to fight", could attack one of us tomorrow. a war is never something ood, but sometimes, it must be foguth.


Galim

Oh brave warriors of the feather,
all fencing with pencils is senseless, muster your men and sharpen your blades. The dwarves will do the same and we´ll cross our blades on the battlefield, outside of the city of Troll´s Bane so no innocents get harmed. Until then, the realm of Silverbrand declared this war. There is no need to justify this, the victory will justify anything. Never forget, history is written by the winners.

Yours Belegi

There is no need to justify this, the victory will justify anything. Never forget,.

There needs to be justification...if not then the people who agree follow blindly

Well then if both sides wish for war then there will be a war. But do not kill those that have given up or are not fighting. For any side that does this are the worst scum alive and will probable not stay alive for much longer.

What I do not understand is why you are against the civilians of Northerot. Why kill them? It is almost as if it is wrong to be a citizen of another town but your own. What kind of single mindedness is that? This only shows greed and power.

Maybe we could all become serveants under this dwarven king?

~¤~Kasume~¤~

Val De Gausse wrote:I am mad at the war....i think it is unjistifed and unnecessary to but it...also when Darlok comes rearing his head you all will back off.

Translation: "Sob, sob, we are allowed to fight, but the others not, sob, they should all surrender to us, because we are THAT mighty, booh, and..sniff, if the big black man comes, we all are going to run away, sob."


-not signed (just as always)

Lyrenzia has stolen land in the past, what is the difference in this case? Declare war on Lyrenzia as well.

I am waiting for someone to say that Lyrenzia should declare war against themselves, or ban themselves.


-n s

I am waiting for someone to say that Lyrenzia should declare war against themselves, or ban themselves.

Allow me to translate that.."Wahh no one will get mad at me for translating their words in to pointless childish games anymore wahh,no i'll say something compeletly stupid and make my self look like a fool..good thing I'm to scare to sign my name showing that i belive in what i say...wahh. "

see that's what you sound like,
and before you translate my words in to something compeletly stupid to cover up for your own childish ways..i've heard it all before and i don't give a damn about your bullshit games so go ahead.

`ƒ~

You re doing this completely wrong. When you try to copy someone, do it at least in the right way.

By the way, I don't care about anyone knowing my name or not, you know it or not, why should I sign every letter I write.