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You are playing like orcs, trying to take away the town of another group of dwarves by force.

That's something orcs would do and no dwarves. And don't tell me about racial stereotypes. There are some things everyone must agree some races won't do or are not able to do.

Orcs recitating poems and speaking elven? Yeah why not, it's fresh it's new.

Dwarves stealing each others caves and smile on loyality and their comradeship under each other? Sure, let's do so!

Human who found out to become as old as elves? Sure, they like trees too!

That's when you could basically disable all races besides human because there's nothing anymore that would make them different from the other races.

There are some things no dwarf/elf/orc/human would do and that is (for a dwarf) to backstab and take away another town by force.

That's my personal opinion, nothing more nothing less. I know that you have a different opinion about your roleplay being totally ok so I finally want a word from someone in charge (GM / Dev anyone) to see who's right.

come all to silverbrand now... Friedwulfa is there and want peace....

I'm not even going to read that Thurbert.

And, as for peace, I'd love to have peace... but now we're stuck in an RP jam... dwarves dont usually back down.. they're pride is too strong...

But, for the sake of getting silverbrand back on its feet, I think we should all come to an agreement.

thats one reason why i started this OOC-threat. to look what everybody thinks and find a way to bring us all under one hat

Let the royalists smash the traitors in one big battle, the deaths of that battle being permanent for both sides and afterwards there'll most likely be just one group standing, or no group at all.. both ways would show a new direction in this conflict.

sure.. but you forget something... i am a good fighter.. you maybe too... but what, if the "traitors" weak? they should have the chance to live after the battle

do you realize how hard it will be to get everyone from different timezones on at the same time?

They should not for crying out loud.

Thurbert tried to knock sense into Belgram, and I'm pretty sure he would have killed him in his frenzy yet... *walks to cross* *argues even louder than before* that's just not working.

They should start to realize that they're weaker and should draw back their claims if they're being "killed" again and again, don't you think?

Weaker, yes. Howver, we do have more dwarves...

I dont understand why this is discuss OOC. I would like Friedwulfa or Thurbert to explain why they need to talk about this OOC.

yes, thats one problem. if i am defeated i have to play like i am the weaker one...

This topic seems to be slipping into IC talk. Stop that, or I'll lock it. Friedwulfa wants to discuss current roleplay and ways of reconciling it to suit most players. However, when you say something like:

Weaker, yes. Howver, we do have more dwarves...

..you shoot her efforts in the foot, by apparently roleplaying your character's opinions on the board. Let Friedwulfa lead the discussion--she seems to be the only level-headed person contributing at the moment.

Guys, surely an IG event shouldnt bother you OOC? sort it out IG or something because its not gonna get anywhere. and its getting boring watching you bikering about this.

Because all this conflict has been arising and supported by you aswell PO Stephen by the OOC claim that Ghorn would never be online:

Garett Gwenour wrote:Ghorn, whom stands beside you ? Tialdin ? Tirana ? They are around perhaps once a year. It is you whom draws a civil war because you want the throne. Listen to the voice of the dwarves whom matter, the active ones, they want Durgin and not you. It is you who has brought blood to your race now, not Durgin. Through your greed and lies.

Stephen Rothman
First Knight of Kallahorn

Garett Gwenour wrote:I took steps to see that the active and majority members of the dwarven race stood and decided their fate. it has long been that SIlverbrand is run by an absent king and it's destiny decided by those whom you read only upon these walls but never see around.

That's bullshit roleplay there from your side, and I won't take that back for it is. We do not live for this game and therefor we can't be playing 24/7, and if you log out your character does NOT magically vanish until you log back on, perhaps read the Guide to Roleplaying and mind Japhets or Aeghols nice essay about "downtime".

Ive seen Ghorn online a decent amount of time, and I'm not even in their time zone. And even when he isn't there, there is "downtime".

please come back to the theme.

we have here, like i think, really traitors. it looks too, like the traitors are defeated for some times. the only time the "pro-ghorn" lost were, when there were no fair one-on-one fights. fights where one side uses potions in the fight (try this please in real). and fights when two stands against one.. thats not a honourful way... so thats not the dwarven-way....

But when your characters are gone for weeks at a time, even months at a time and they hold an important position in the Illarion structure you cannot just say, "I am busy ooc." You are important to this game and you have a responsiblity to be active. Ghorn is active this is true, but most of the people who sided with him then were very inactive, but it is now that there is about a war they are active agan which is good to see.
However as stated, you cannot be a King of the Land and be called ooc to show up for events because they need you. Nor ask for special treatment because you dont want to play illarion, but want to rule it

So your argumentation implies that people that can only play few hours each weak are never allowed to play more important characters and are completely zoned out from getting into "higher" and "decisive" positions in game.

That's just.. geeky "Oh no I HAVE TO get online now, sorry dear, tell Sandra to wait with making her first steps I am a dedicated player of a game and I have a responsibility"

LOL.

This problem was in solution by making Ghorn king.

I see a problem. Both sides think they are winning.

Too little to late, stephen is evil and wanted to make the dwarves under his hand so he lied and convinced the dwarves to revolt. Oh no you all know OOC now but too late the matter is all ingame and you should probably solve it there.

When seeing this, some people probably are thinking "wow, Silverbrand is messed up right now" or "wow, I'm glad I don't have a dwarf char there right now". In the end things like these are only hurting yourselves

That evil knight

a moment please. Stephen told lies by speaking ooc-things. Thats bad roleplay

every PO should have a real live.. and thats the reason why you can be away for days or weeks, too. like durgin, me, Thurbert, Syrana... everybody i think. thats not a reason why somebody couldnt be king.
but a reason why a dwarf couldnt be king is when he is a puppet (like it looks with durgin), or when he is a coward who cant stand alone.

but.. for the ooc and ig peace i think the "two-king-way" could be a way

Youre right, fooser. Thats the problem.

The solution would be, that Ghorn and Durgin would speak and that Ghorn and others could convince Durgin, that Stephen is the bad guy.

No,
One arguement was of course Tialdin was a very absent king.
Second arguement was Ghorn forced Gabon into war and Ghorn lied to his allies.
Third arguement was Surely Tialdin cannot be very wise if he will let Ghorn be king after seeing what Ghorn did in the second arguement
And fourth was convincing them they had to stop it.

Oh damn that Stephen always ruining ooc planning..

When seeing this, some people probably are thinking "wow, Silverbrand is messed up right now" or "wow, I'm glad I don't have a dwarf char there right now". In the end things like these are only hurting yourselves



Thats true because this whole thing is getting out of hand and is very boring both in game and OOC

Yes, Friedwulfa, i thing the same