I knew that DW is strong, but i could not stand his attack.. he got me right down with the first blow. I was using a shield and a firesword... so his attack was GRAÈAT. And, trying to protect a newbie, i hit him first - with no chance.
At this point, thanks Darkwalker for not killing her again or with distance... she was not much angry.
but, tell me THAT weapon combination ! beating my parry skill easily, my armor did not make a thing... making enough damage to strike me down with ONE blow - and hell, i was not even able to give you a little scratch with several hits...
I thought Damage would be reduced in this version ??? Uhm it was not...
Well, i think i am not the one to stand you that way, Darkwalker - one needs dwarves for that. Perhaps. What the heck did you use ? Perhaps we found a bug here. Concerning that the server crashed immediately - in the same second - after i died....
Just hope my skills don't decrease the time i am dead when i am not logged on =) would be a shame...
WOOW!!! what a HIT! - Darkwalker got me down hell quick... n
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WOOW!!! what a HIT!
Yeah, I'm the man, I've been working out, hehehe. Just kidding, i was using the same combination of equipment as you. I was out training before i came into town, but strange thing is i had just been killed. It must have been a bug, or else i have superhuman power, even though my stats had been cut(bror you bastard).
When i log on again I'll try to kill you again damien and we'll see what happens.
When i log on again I'll try to kill you again damien and we'll see what happens.
WOOW!!! what a HIT!
1. The damage was reduced
2. I tested a fight between Damien and Darkwalker with a copy of the actual characters on the testserver. Sure Darkwalker was the stronger one, but Damien was also able to inflict damage (Darkwalker needed 2 hits for Damien, Damien 5-6 hits at Darkwalker).
Since it is easier now, to wipe out the enemies defence, it is also possible for weaker characters to hurt a character with high defence. I.e. a group of weak characters is able to get rid of a strong one, if they act together. This was the goal of the change (not everyone acting as an individual - thats for offline games. Act together and win)
2. I tested a fight between Damien and Darkwalker with a copy of the actual characters on the testserver. Sure Darkwalker was the stronger one, but Damien was also able to inflict damage (Darkwalker needed 2 hits for Damien, Damien 5-6 hits at Darkwalker).
Since it is easier now, to wipe out the enemies defence, it is also possible for weaker characters to hurt a character with high defence. I.e. a group of weak characters is able to get rid of a strong one, if they act together. This was the goal of the change (not everyone acting as an individual - thats for offline games. Act together and win)
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WOOW!!! what a HIT!
hehehe... i am off the fighter business. No more for me. I cannot even defend against Darkwalker 
Seems as skills do not really count anymore. 1-2 hits ? With shield and armor ? And i needed 5-6 ?Man, i am WEAK!!!. That is the problem when skills and agility (and armor) do not lower the damage one gets, and only effect the hit chance. ( or do they ? )
Well, I lay down sword and armor. As a Warlock, who needs agility and strength as well as constitution and intelligence, i am not suitable anymore for protection. Cause i lack strength, and attributes are all below the average( although i created this char that way, good defense, less strength, good agility for several small hits that penetrate armor and make no massive damage, but many small hits )
- that is not possible to reach with average values in all attributes -
But one has to specialize as a fighter to survive fights. Hope that will be balanced in the next versions.
Until then, i will use only defensive Weapons. I lay down my sword, and will only use it for monsters ONLY from now on. I am still fighter enough to handle the demon - Sure, when i use high defense, and it takes a long time to punch him to death with ram attacks. At least i have some magic left, but since resistance works the way it does now, i cannot even hurt myself with it. I am useless, unless i join a mob.
Since i cannot protect others against even unskilled, but strong or specialized people, I hereby swear:
I will not rise my sword against any person any more.
I will take a retirement as a scribe and Dominus major of the order, concentrate on the arcane arts, and let the protection be done by specialists who are able to do it.
I will hold on to that until skill is more useful, or until someone kills people in the library. If that happens, i will retake my sword, join the templars, and hunt down all criminals as a horde, promising to keep those criminals trapped and dead until they lose their skills totally, and without any mercy.
The library shall be a sacred place.
I will travel the lands to research, and to find places. Anyone who wants, including Darkwalker or any evil persons, can ask me for information about places and other things, as long as they do not attack - with spell or with force - anyone else in the Library.
Darkwalker, i will miss our long and honorable fights, and ask you not to attack pieceful order members any more, as well as other people who are not able to defend themselves. There will be two kinds of order members : Templars, who are figters and Lawkeepers, and Scribes, who are scholars, mages, workmasters and artisans. And there are the Knights of the grey rose, they are protectors and fighters.
I ask you to leave those in peace who do not want fights, especially scribes and people who are no fighters, or at least give them a good chance to avoid a fight.
(Edited by Damien at 9:41 am on April 10, 2001)
(Edited by Damien at 2:43 pm on April 10, 2001)
Seems as skills do not really count anymore. 1-2 hits ? With shield and armor ? And i needed 5-6 ?Man, i am WEAK!!!. That is the problem when skills and agility (and armor) do not lower the damage one gets, and only effect the hit chance. ( or do they ? )Well, I lay down sword and armor. As a Warlock, who needs agility and strength as well as constitution and intelligence, i am not suitable anymore for protection. Cause i lack strength, and attributes are all below the average( although i created this char that way, good defense, less strength, good agility for several small hits that penetrate armor and make no massive damage, but many small hits )
- that is not possible to reach with average values in all attributes -
But one has to specialize as a fighter to survive fights. Hope that will be balanced in the next versions.
Until then, i will use only defensive Weapons. I lay down my sword, and will only use it for monsters ONLY from now on. I am still fighter enough to handle the demon - Sure, when i use high defense, and it takes a long time to punch him to death with ram attacks. At least i have some magic left, but since resistance works the way it does now, i cannot even hurt myself with it. I am useless, unless i join a mob.
Since i cannot protect others against even unskilled, but strong or specialized people, I hereby swear:
I will not rise my sword against any person any more.
I will take a retirement as a scribe and Dominus major of the order, concentrate on the arcane arts, and let the protection be done by specialists who are able to do it.
I will hold on to that until skill is more useful, or until someone kills people in the library. If that happens, i will retake my sword, join the templars, and hunt down all criminals as a horde, promising to keep those criminals trapped and dead until they lose their skills totally, and without any mercy.
The library shall be a sacred place.
I will travel the lands to research, and to find places. Anyone who wants, including Darkwalker or any evil persons, can ask me for information about places and other things, as long as they do not attack - with spell or with force - anyone else in the Library.
Darkwalker, i will miss our long and honorable fights, and ask you not to attack pieceful order members any more, as well as other people who are not able to defend themselves. There will be two kinds of order members : Templars, who are figters and Lawkeepers, and Scribes, who are scholars, mages, workmasters and artisans. And there are the Knights of the grey rose, they are protectors and fighters.
I ask you to leave those in peace who do not want fights, especially scribes and people who are no fighters, or at least give them a good chance to avoid a fight.
(Edited by Damien at 9:41 am on April 10, 2001)
(Edited by Damien at 2:43 pm on April 10, 2001)
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WOOW!!! what a HIT!
This here means no complaint, it explains why i am not suited for fights. When i created this character, i just misunderstood the attribute system itself, because i compared it to standard pen&paper systems. So no Problem, this will change at last when the final version comes out.
Attributes have extreme strong influence on your character. Even if you have maximum fighting skills, and have under average fighting attributes, you will not be able to defend a single bit against a real tough guy, even when he has his skills only as half as good as yours Watch out for this when you travel along! The best possibility to survive when you are not too tough is extreme defense. Or your legs, if possible !
Perhaps, some day we will be able to train our attribs a bit *g*
#me shrugs, looks around a corner, and runs away
Attributes have extreme strong influence on your character. Even if you have maximum fighting skills, and have under average fighting attributes, you will not be able to defend a single bit against a real tough guy, even when he has his skills only as half as good as yours
Watch out for this when you travel along! The best possibility to survive when you are not too tough is extreme defense. Or your legs, if possible !Perhaps, some day we will be able to train our attribs a bit *g*
#me shrugs, looks around a corner, and runs away
WOOW!!! what a HIT!
>Even if you have maximum fighting skills, and have >under average fighting attributes, you will not be able >to defend a single bit against a real tough guy, even >when he has his skills only as half as good as yours
wrong again
wrong again
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WOOW!!! what a HIT!
Oookay, i have to add that sentence : When you use the same weapon and not two shields =)
And, the skills of the stronger one must not be too low. HELL wrong again ! It must be weaker one. =)
Using two shields can act as a "duel-switch" : You will not be able to kill others, but they will not be able to kill you too. Now i hope i got that correctly this time hehe..
(Edited by Damien at 8:13 pm on April 10, 2001)
And, the skills of the stronger one must not be too low. HELL wrong again ! It must be weaker one. =)
Using two shields can act as a "duel-switch" : You will not be able to kill others, but they will not be able to kill you too. Now i hope i got that correctly this time hehe..
(Edited by Damien at 8:13 pm on April 10, 2001)
WOOW!!! what a HIT!
You are still wrong. I asked you a few times, to stop posting "facts" about the fighting system, without knowing how it works.
Now go on posting, I won't dement or correct anything in this thread anymore.
Now go on posting, I won't dement or correct anything in this thread anymore.
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WOOW!!! what a HIT!
Oh well. Just wanted to understand a bit more to be able helping a bit instead of being a brick on your leg making suggestions noone can use because the system works another way round hehe... But okay, i can focus on playing, not cracking my mind about how things work, or giving ideas how to improve things. Perhaps i was too much testing than playing.
nix für ungut
nix für ungut