Auction Board

Brendan Mason · Post by **Brendan Mason** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 8:52 pm

Yes, I am aware it has been posted before and I'm aware I was the one that posted it, but...

Just take a glance at the RPG board. See how it is littered with tens of Auction posts. I'm sure people would appreciate it, if it was relocated to a separate Auction Board.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 11:36 pm

Actually I got a cool idea, ok you have an auction board, but the type of topic is like a poll, it has a little form at the top. The form could include a place to type your name, then a box labeled ingots next to it, then a box with gold coins. You would access the bidding form by clicking post reply button. It would show the current bidder,bid,and what they are bidding for at the top of the thread. This way there is no need for accual pointless replies. I could write a visual basic program and compile it if need be, incredibly easy.

Keikan Hiru · Post by **Keikan Hiru** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 12:48 am

Please note that this is only my personal opinion:

I also agree to a special degree.
Auctions basicly litter the RPG Board, but I will in no way support a Trade/Auction-Board.

Dealings will ( I am quite sure about this) run after a little time only via this Board, Seller and Buyer will only log in to exchange goods/money.

What kind of roleplay is that?

If you want to trade, why dont you use the Marketplace ?

Go there, shout like in medival times:

"Hear ye , hear ye, People of Trolls Bane, fines cloth, Silk, to wrap the beautiest in the beautiest. Hear ye , hear ye, only 15 Coins the meter!"

Wouldnt that make much more fun and add some flair to the game?

No the plain:
I am selling:
1000 Coal
2500 Ore
Bidding ends at 4pm.
(I am almost crying when i see such plain stuff.)

Maybe you can convince a RPG Mod to forbid auctions.

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 1:56 am

It's not a very favorable alternative if there's only 10 people online.
A smart merchant would do both.

In medieval times, the market is extremely busy and full of people. The same can't be said about the entire world of Illarion.

Cuderon · Post by **Cuderon** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 2:43 am

To be honest, does the typical Illarion tradesman really need to sell his wares? Does it make sense to play a tradesman at all?

If I can not sell my fish/bread/whatever today, it doesn´t matter because in Illarion there is nothing like moldy bread loaves or smelly fishes. And I don´t need to sell anything at all: I don´t have to pay taxes, my gold isn´t worth a thing at all because I can´t buy any luxury goods or houses... uhm.

To be true, I can´t see any RP-reason to earn more money than one needs to live. Most people save their money to build a house... in a far away future. But with all this amounts of silver ingots and gold coins that are hidden in the deep of a players box, the currency will become more and more worthless.

We do not need a trading board, we need a reason to earn money at all and things to spent our money with. A working economy system.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 2:58 am

If people accually bought food from others who do it for a living, then it might start to work. I try to buy food, but lately fisherman can't catch anything so I have to resort to summoning it.

Armil Darken · Post by **Armil Darken** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 3:11 am

I dislike the mage food spell at this point, it screws us druids real bad. And makes mage workers the same as before, its stupid! I'm gonna make a post about this on the proposals.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 4:22 am

Please do, I think it's ruins the economy too, but when there isn't a person exept on the other side of the island, kind of hard to buy right? I think there is only fighters from players 42***-50***, exept for of course a few who are blacksmiths or druids. So not a whole lot of people producing food, exept one of my chars has a large stockpile of food.

Grant Herion · Post by **Grant Herion** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 4:44 am

You can always get ham from pigs you know... dont need to be a baker to cook that.....

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 5:31 am

Yeah I know, and with the drought I think they should have taken the pigs and sheep out since the grass is all basically dead and turning to sand, nothing for them to eat. But rich fighters, could simply buy a large pile of fish and eat that for a while and fight zombies forever, just drop in the silverstar shop every once in a while to eat.

Aragon · Post by **Aragon** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 10:54 am

Keikan Hiru wrote:Auctions basicly litter the RPG Board, but I will in no way support a Trade/Auction-Board.

Dealings will ( I am quite sure about this) run after a little time only via this Board, Seller and Buyer will only log in to exchange goods/money.

What kind of roleplay is that?

After coming back, I was shocked, that half of the first page of the RP-Board was full of trade-topics.
And it seemed, that the point, you fear, is now reached on the RP-Board. Dealings only run there and people log in for exchange.
In my opinion, it has just reached this state.
So the big point of the tradeboard now is to have the RP-Board back to the roleplay, free from trade. So that people, who want to know, what's going on, can see it easy and haven't to look through tons of trade-topics.
This kind of roleplay is allready here now and therefore no arguement against a trade board.
The other solution is to forbid trade topics on the RP-Board without a trade-board. But than, the mods have to care for this.

Zare · Post by **Zare** » Fri Sep 05, 2003 6:08 am

Perhaps forbid auctions on the boards but posting in game auction times are aloud.

Albernon · Post by **Albernon** » Fri Sep 05, 2003 7:30 am

Forbidding characters from writing something IC makes no RP sense.

Sevious Helios · Post by **Sevious Helios** » Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:06 pm

Maybe someone could do this instead. As to add on to zare's idea someone could post an auction time. He can state the goods he's going to have and what the starting price is going to be. But if anyone wants to bid they have to come to the auction in game to place a bid on the item(s) that are up for bid. And like a normal auction in rl it'll only go so far and the winner gets the items he bidded for. Perhaps that'd make better rp than bidding on the boards? I think I'll try it sometime. Thanks for listening to my ideas.

Aradhul · Post by **Aradhul** » Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:24 pm

Yes if there is an auction it should happen in game. The board should be just like a flyer. So good job Sevious

Brendan Mason · Post by **Brendan Mason** » Fri Sep 05, 2003 5:51 pm

So perhaps, Auctions can be banned on the board. And if Auctions are arranged for in-game, they can all be placed in the one topic.

Zare · Post by **Zare** » Fri Sep 05, 2003 9:48 pm

Well, thats what I was trying to say, Sevious

Albernon · Post by **Albernon** » Sat Sep 06, 2003 12:00 am

There's still no RP reason why auctions would be banned on the boards from the characters point of view. It's not like if someone wants to make a bid, then some unknown magical force seizes his arms and prevents him from writing. If this is a better method to get profit, then merchants will certainly do this if they wanted.

If you want to make sure you can see your bidders then certainly you can just do your auctions in game, but this doesn't stop merchants from making auctions from "parchment posting" if they found that more effective.

And realistically, we all know that we all play the game at too many various times for all interested bidders to show.

Aragon · Post by **Aragon** » Sat Sep 06, 2003 9:15 am

Indeed, you are right, Albernon,
but nethertheless it is much easier to overview the RP-board, if there is a special section for trade and a section for the other RP-stuff.

Aragon · Post by **Aragon** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 9:00 am

I bring up again this suggestion.
Today in the morning, there were several mew trading topics, but only one no-trading topic. Itis realy hard to find out the topics, related to the happenings ingame. Also they vanish very fast to the second or third site of the rp-board and it causes more time to find them again. Especially for people, who aren't on the boards each day, it will be hard to find all important rp-related topics of the last days (not to say, that trade isn't rp).
But again, I think, a special rp-trading board will be better than the situation now.

(And if time is missing and there is a need, I will move trade topics in a new board by giving me the ability to do so.)

Sess'sth · Post by **Sess'sth** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 10:20 pm

Do you guys really think that everyone will just stop posting auctions in the rpg forum? Some people are too lazy (like me

) to move the mouse ALL THE WAY to the 'Illarion.org Forum Index link', click, and then move the mouse ALL THE WAY to the 'Auction Board', and click AGAIN!

Aragon · Post by **Aragon** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 9:54 am

Sess'sth wrote:Do you guys really think that everyone will just stop posting auctions in the rpg forum? Some people are too lazy (like me ) to move the mouse ALL THE WAY to the 'Illarion.org Forum Index link', click, and then move the mouse ALL THE WAY to the 'Auction Board', and click AGAIN!

There's a good way against it. Deleting and locking wrong topics. And if the work for a special person becomes too much, boardban to save worthy time. Lazyness is no excuse.

Hagen von Rabenfeld · Post by **Hagen von Rabenfeld** » Fri Oct 03, 2003 4:36 pm

In my opinion a trade board would make sense, although Keikan is right to say, that this would encourage players only to log in to exchange their goods making a economical simulation out of Illarion. But i would say that this depends on the attitude of a certain type of players and i doubt you could do anything about it. From my point of view the many trade topics proof that we already reached the point that a part of the players only log in to gather ressources or to deliver the goods they sold on the board.

Personally i would prefer if traders would sell their goods in the old way,(Running through the town, praising their goods aloud, annoying uninterested bystanders) but to convince all of the players to sell their goods this way would require alot of discussion about of the meaning of roleplay and i doubt those discussions would come to an end. Making a trade board would not do anything against the fact, that some players think of Illarion as a trade simulation, but it would at least free the RPG board of these irritating auctions.

I would not like to see a story, for which i spend some time, to go unnoticed, because it quickly drops to the end of the list.