Battlemage Halflings!?

Bloodhearte · Post by **Bloodhearte** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 6:25 pm

Actually, I would count the two best (and heaviest looking) shields held at one time as excessive, especially for a hobbit. It's not even supposed to be good roleplay to hold two shields, from my understanding. I've only done it one time, and that was far back when I just started and didn't know it was wrong to hold such items at once.

Grant Herion · Post by **Grant Herion** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 5:39 am

Its not wrong to do it, it is more a sense of honor. Such as you would rather die with honor then live as a coward, I suppose it all comes down to what kind of person your character is.

Elaralith · Post by **Elaralith** » Tue Jul 15, 2003 3:07 am

Crocket wrote:We do not have hobbits. We have halflings.

I am sorry but this statement is horribly wrong. It has already been discussed and agreed that hobbits and halflings are the same thing. Two labels for the same thing; it is like the words car and auto they both mean the same machine. THEREFORE, it is OK to use BOTH the terms hobbit AND halfling in relation to that race. This may not be the Lord of the Rings but it doesn't beed to be because in the fantasy world the word hobbit is used just as much as the word halfling and they both mean the same thing.

A side note for better RP: Halfling is the term used by MEN (Humans) and is slightly derogative. Legend tells that when the first Man saw a halfling he exclaimed that "it" looked half the size of a man and there came the word "halfling". The halfling race prefers calls itself "hobbits" because in their language it means "hole-dwellers" and they prefer to be called that as it is not derogatory and a "put down" as the word halfling is.

Izzak · Post by **Izzak** » Tue Jul 15, 2003 8:11 am

Moonsilver wrote:Magic for sure is not their prime talent. May it be that there are some Halflings tempting the arts of magic but it is highly recommended not to be close as one or the other spell might turn out in a way which was not intended.

Here is what I think:

There is nothing wrong with a halfling using magic. There is nothing wrong with a halfling being a bloodthirsty warriors. However, in Illarion it seems like there are a too many of these so called "unique" halflings.

Bumbol Woodstock · Post by **Bumbol Woodstock** » Tue Jul 15, 2003 3:20 pm

I do not know many "bloodthirsty" hobbits. Can you please tell me them?
And I want only the ones that go around killing everyone around them.

Adano Eles · Post by **Adano Eles** » Tue Jul 15, 2003 3:26 pm

There are different ways to be blood- thirsty. To join every fight in sight or start a fight every time there seems to be a rp reason to do it is also blood- thirstyness.
Because this is not what halflings are supposed to do. True, halflings can be strong fighters, but it needs a very big effort before they even consider fighting.

Bloodhearte · Post by **Bloodhearte** » Tue Jul 15, 2003 6:11 pm

Hehe...remember the Darlok vs. Crosis war Adano? Bloodthirsty hobbits galore...

Adano Eles · Post by **Adano Eles** » Tue Jul 15, 2003 6:14 pm

That's what I meant, exactly. Running into every fight is typical for dwarves or barbarian humans, but not for a halfling.

Izzak · Post by **Izzak** » Tue Jul 15, 2003 6:38 pm

Exactly. I do not know many names, but I've seen many start fights.

Examples:

"Draw your sword and fight me!"

"You dare challenge me?! Bring it on!"

Those are some examples.

Take a look at this halfling attacking:

http://www.speedis.org/images/323410.gif

Bumbol Woodstock · Post by **Bumbol Woodstock** » Tue Jul 15, 2003 6:44 pm

Bloodthirsty hobbits galore in the Darlok thing? He was going to kill us.... It would have been unfair if we were forced to pay as a "roleplay" reason. We thought of him as a slaver and we fought him.
Many fights are probably started by the same hobbit. And Nilo is a bloodthirsty hobbit, that is the way he plays his character, you should get to know the actually characters before you say they have no roleplay behind them and that they are just bloodthirsty.

Viola Thistle · Post by **Viola Thistle** » Tue Jul 15, 2003 6:48 pm

And didn't we indeed pay in the long run...I can't remember.

vivi

Bumbol Woodstock · Post by **Bumbol Woodstock** » Tue Jul 15, 2003 6:55 pm

yes we did, Crosie did out of his own wallet, and he also managed to bargain Darlok down a ton to

Izzak · Post by **Izzak** » Wed Jul 16, 2003 6:01 am

Bumbol Woodstock wrote:And Nilo is a bloodthirsty hobbit, that is the way he plays his character,

To me it is as if all the halflings play as a bloodthirsty halfling. Not so much bloodthirsty, but furious when someone makes fun of them. I do not see many halflings that get scared and hide somewhere. They all seem to start blasting spells.

Crosis · Post by **Crosis** » Wed Jul 16, 2003 9:02 am

Maybe halflings are tired of being pushed around, maybe they want to stand up for themselves, maybe they want to stop people from tormenting them. Here's an example: I walk into town today, and people started shouting "Short person!", then walked up to me and pushed me back and forth. Things like that have been happening for a while now...ever think it would get annoying? Try playing a hobbit for a while before you start judging them.

Adano Eles · Post by **Adano Eles** » Wed Jul 16, 2003 5:26 pm

The problem is that you see your halfling with the eyes of a human. The halflings mind does not work the way ours does.

Izzak · Post by **Izzak** » Wed Jul 16, 2003 5:28 pm

Crosis, Please don't assume that I don't have any halfling characters. I have played as one before. Nobody ever said anything like that to me. This sorta thing does not happen that much. If they call you a short person, just chuckle at them and shake your head. They will then probably stop. If they don't, just don't worry about it.

I have walked around town before. Nobody picks on halflings that much. They may just pick on a certain one, but not all halflings get picked on all the time. Even if they do, just laugh at them and walk off. You do not need to pull out a sword bigger than your head to defend yourself over a little name.

Bumbol Woodstock · Post by **Bumbol Woodstock** » Wed Jul 16, 2003 6:39 pm

Ulean, Crosis is right, there are about 2-3 extremely annoying people who always make snide remarks about any group of halflings and it gets really annoying. After about the 2nd month of him doing I got tired a made him stop.
MY character doesn't take crap, his whole family doesn't take crap. Once again, get to know each character and you will see the whole roleplay reasoning.

Izzak · Post by **Izzak** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 3:05 am

Bumbol Woodstock wrote:Ulean, Crosis is right, there are about 2-3 extremely annoying people who always make snide remarks about any group of halflings and it gets really annoying. After about the 2nd month of him doing I got tired a made him stop.
MY character doesn't take crap, his whole family doesn't take crap. Once again, get to know each character and you will see the whole roleplay reasoning.

I guess maybe you are right Bumbol. I do not see many people who say such things to halflings though.

Crocket · Post by **Crocket** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 3:59 am

Bumbol Woodstock wrote:MY character doesn't take crap, his whole family doesn't take crap. Once again, get to know each character and you will see the whole roleplay reasoning.

I think you're missing the point.
That may be the attitude of you the player who is a human. A halfling would not have this attitude. A halfling does not go around attacking people for calling him names, no matter how often it happens. He may steal a valuable item from the person then walk off snickering to himself.

They usually think of other ways to deal with a situation rather than fighting.

Bloodhearte · Post by **Bloodhearte** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 8:30 am

Bumbol, it's possible for hobbits to be good fighters if they had a short sword handy, but it would probably make more RP sense for hobbits to pay silver BEFORE throwing countless ice bolts...I mean, fighting for something is one thing, but magery? Sheesh! Four hobbits surrounded Xerake outside of town, and told him to name his employer or they would kill him! Not very hobbit like to me...

And by the way, I DO have a hobbit character. Even if I didn't, it's not like you must walk around as a particular computer graphic to know how to roleplay it properly

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Bloodhearte · Post by **Bloodhearte** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 8:40 am

Crosis wrote:Maybe halflings are tired of being pushed around, maybe they want to stand up for themselves, maybe they want to stop people from tormenting them. Here's an example: I walk into town today, and people started shouting "Short person!", then walked up to me and pushed me back and forth. Things like that have been happening for a while now...ever think it would get annoying? Try playing a hobbit for a while before you start judging them.

Yes, because torment is caused by being called short person, and being pushed around a few times. I always considered torment somewhere along the lines of threatening to kill, or forcing you to do something beyond your will, but...that's just me.

Of course it gets annoying! A good roleplaying hobbit would try to get in a battle of tongues, or steal a precious item, or even kick the agressor in the shin; NOT pull out a weapon larger than their body, a wand in their bag, talking like a pro-wrestler, and getting ready for a battle royale! I sound like a broken record, but everybody seems to keep missing the point...

And like I mentioned, again, you don't have to walk around as a particular graphic in a computer game to know how to roleplay the race portayed by that graphic correctly. I have a hobbit character myself, and if you don't believe me, I can PM you with more information (though I don't use him often).

Bottom line, one hobbit that can cast ice bolts faster than they can say the runes is more than enough, but 5 is insane.

Hermie · Post by **Hermie** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 6:54 pm

If a halfling smithed a shield would he make it human-sized? No, he would make it Halfling-sized. It wouldn't mean the shield wasn't as good, as for a halfling the shield would still protect the same as a human wielding a human sized one.
Halflings farm a lot. If you carried huge bundles of grain, or bags full of cabbages around all day I am pretty sure you would end up being quite strong.

Bloodhearte · Post by **Bloodhearte** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 9:24 pm

Like I said, it's understandable that halflings CAN be strong fighters if they choose to be. But when I see a bunch of them throwing ice bolts without fail, and taking advantage of their combat strength to pick fights, then I wouldn't be surprised if the player of that particular halfling did not take a quick peek at moonsilver.

Anyway, why would a halfling be smithing in the first place? They seem more...merchanty, or better in the fields of woodworking.

Bumbol Woodstock · Post by **Bumbol Woodstock** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 11:29 pm

My character is a blacksmith. Hermie is a blacksmith (I think). Briggi Blumenkind is a blacksmith (I think). Dromar Mugworth is a Blacksmith. I am sure many more are as well. Bloodhearte, I think you get that idea because you are thinking of hobbits from LOTR they didn't like machinery very much and I think you are mixing things.

Bloodhearte · Post by **Bloodhearte** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 1:11 am

Bumbol Woodstock wrote:My character is a blacksmith. Hermie is a blacksmith (I think). Briggi Blumenkind is a blacksmith (I think). Dromar Mugworth is a Blacksmith. I am sure many more are as well. Bloodhearte, I think you get that idea because you are thinking of hobbits from LOTR they didn't like machinery very much and I think you are mixing things.

Yes, many more are, as many more are mages. But anyway...

Tolkien sort of "invented" the race of hobbits, so I think it would be only correct to portray them correctly in a game that uses them.

Bumbol Woodstock · Post by **Bumbol Woodstock** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 1:16 am

Eh, I don't really mind it too much. I mean, their are peaceful orcs, woodcutting money driven elves. I think it doesn't really matter. And if you look and count all of the halflings, the ones with magic are less then say... 10 percent I would guess. Only 3 active ones. Rest of us are druids.

Caranthir the great · Post by **Caranthir the great** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 1:25 am

Only 3 active ones.

Just a note:
I would not be so sure that you know all the active hobbits and wether they are mages or not. (So shoot me, I said hobbit

)

Bumbol Woodstock · Post by **Bumbol Woodstock** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 1:27 am

Uh oh Carathir... You gotta get shot now...
Anyways I ment that 3 active wizard hobbits. Ah oops!

* 4 men in black suits take the player of bumbol woodstock out in the back and gun shots are heard.*

Bloodhearte · Post by **Bloodhearte** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 1:51 am

Well garsh dern it, I sure do mind!

I mean, are you filled with pride and joy of roleplaying experience when you witness a hobbit-

*One of the black suited men barely misses the player of Bloodhearte's head with a shot from a sniper rifle*

-(half your size) beating a demon with ice bolts as my strongest lizardman has to use bloody potions to fight them HAND TO HAND? Sheesh! I end up laughing and falling out of my chair from the comical ridiculousness!

Bumbol Woodstock · Post by **Bumbol Woodstock** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 2:14 am

eh, I thought you told me before that Xerake could kill Crosis and Nilo easily... Anyways, like I said, it is a small percentage of the halfling community, just like all the other community of the races there are those who are different from the majority.
I would think someone would have a problem with elves cutting down trees and mining for money... I guess us halflings are just despised...