In my eyes: Bad roleplay

paul laffing · Post by **paul laffing** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 6:34 am

Okay, tell me your opinion please. I want to know if I am completely off track on this.

An orc was pushing me around and threatening me, so I told him I was a ghost, and I have enough RP to prove it. So, he continues, and I "slice" through him with my axe, but there is no damage, being that it is a ghost weapon. So he kills me. After I say, time and time again, that I am a ghost, do the RP like I am a ghost, and everything. Is this bad roleplay on his part or am I wrong? I believe his name is Ashburg, and I also have reason to believe he's a powergame but *shrugs*

Ashburg Gragthanggar · Thu Jul 10, 2003 6:43 am

What happened was, I told you that if you pushed me again I would attack and you pushed me. You play a ghost or something, if you want to play a spirit, why don't you stay as a spirit like other people have done? In my opinion its bad roleplay on your part. I gave you many warnings that my character did not want to be pushed. And another thing, how can your axe not hit me, and you can push me with your hands when your a ghost?
And just cause my character is stronger than the usual character with a number close to his, doesn't make me a powergamer.

Moathia · Post by **Moathia** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 12:37 pm

Paul, if your a ghost, and you were pushing him, then thats bad roleplay, if you want to play a spirit then don't go to the cross, and carry a load of poison potions with you, so you can kil yourself when someone comes near you, playing a ghost is really not a good idea, because it's impossible to do.

paul laffing · Post by **paul laffing** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 8:41 pm

I was trying to play a ghost without being a ghost because of something I will do in the future that I can't discuss at the moment... But okay, here goes...

This orc stole from someone and I was standing in its way, I guess, so it pushed me. I went into my place where I was standing and it pushed me again. I manifested my ghost mage power and pushed it back (ghosts consist of magical energy, or so I presume). He pushed me back, so I ignored it and went back where I was standing. He kept pushing me, so I used my ghostly axe to cut him, emphasizing how it had no effect since I am a ghost and my axe is ghostly (#me command). Then, he killed me right out of hand. I was following my RP when he just ignored it and killed me. Bad RP and definitely unprovoked. And then, when you support bad RPers, you can not understand how angry I get.

Keikan Hiru · Post by **Keikan Hiru** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 8:52 pm

This is quite the same situation we have with Vampires and Were-Things.

You cant play them, so please dont.

Paul, you cant be a Ghost and remain with your Character in his (technicaly) normal condition.
Either you really turn your Character in Ghost/Cloud-Form, or you dont claim to be a Ghost.

By the way, you said you used your magical power (you dont have such things) to materialze, the Orc used that moment to cause harm to your (now materialized) soul.

So, please, if you want to play a Ghost, use the Condition we provide for such a state, or dont do it.

Ashburg Gragthanggar · Thu Jul 10, 2003 8:53 pm

First off I wasn't stealing. A person was throwing gems as he dug them up, he obviosly didn't want them. Second, I didn't just "kill you right out of hand", I warned you plenty times not to push me. Yet you still did. If you want to play a ghost, stay as a spirit. Otherwise expect incidents like this to happen.

paul laffing · Post by **paul laffing** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 9:04 pm

Whatever, if bad RP is accepted by the GMs, then why can't I roleplay horribly and PK? I think I will from now on, and we'll see what happens.

Moathia · Post by **Moathia** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 9:10 pm

Yes, Paul why do the GM's let you keep playing, you've died twice now, and now your using magical ghostly powers to push people. and then shout bad RP when they get angry and turn you into a proper ghost, unless you use proper spirit form, you should not be pushing people or getting in their way, if someone tryes to get past you, your a ghost so they can just walk through you, so YOU have to move, or they can move you, your the one playing badly here I'm afraid Paul, Ash had every right to kill you.

Seth Valor · Post by **Seth Valor** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 4:58 am

I have two words.

Go Ashburg!

John Laffing · Post by **John Laffing** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:14 pm

Correction, two words and an exclamation mark. Anyway, why dont you support Paul?

Caranthir the great · Post by **Caranthir the great** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 9:43 pm

Yes Paul, you are the victim. My sympathies. You are obviously victim of shameless hunt-down by the Gm's. Those evil skunks who get their position not because of their helpfulness and skills in programming and similiar nonsense, but rather because they are so incomprehensibly evil and mean, especially to innoncent players.

Or..
You were roleplaying badly.

Aerinkoth · Post by **Aerinkoth** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 9:50 pm

It's simple.

If you want to roleplay a "ghost" or "spirit," then use the technical game functions to become one yourself. Faramier did something like this, and sacrificed his skills, although he became a good fighter afterwards.

Hermie · Post by **Hermie** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 2:42 pm

It's shit roleplay ... on Paul's behalf. How can you push an orc and expect to live, furthermore how can he kill you if you are a ghost? Orcs aren't do-lally tree huggers thats kiss rainbows. Don't play what isn't given to play with!

Bei Tian Kensai · Post by **Bei Tian Kensai** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 10:08 pm

I have to say Hermie is wise, wise like the moon..

You cant pretend to be something, how are people supposed to know your a ghost, do you have to go around shouting it..

Bumbol Woodstock · Post by **Bumbol Woodstock** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 10:10 pm

The moon is wise? Or was that a joke?

Hermie · Post by **Hermie** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 10:28 pm

It's a metaphor I think. My friend, he is japanese you see

Bumbol Woodstock · Post by **Bumbol Woodstock** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 11:15 pm

John Laffing · Post by **John Laffing** » Sun Jul 13, 2003 3:38 am

Yea, its a metaphor. In the asian culture, the moon is very important, and some people dont even go by the gregorian calender we use. they use the lunar calendar, and the holidays are all according to the lunar calendar.

Bei Tian Kensai · Post by **Bei Tian Kensai** » Sun Jul 13, 2003 11:21 pm

thats very true john laffing...in fact one of the concepts of the moon is that it forever rolls on the surface of the water, never opposing nor giving way..

in other words, flow with lifes total openess...

Bloodhearte · Post by **Bloodhearte** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 12:03 am

Mighty Zen masters, is enlightenment equal to cleaning your dinner bowl or becoming oblivious?

Bei Tian Kensai · Post by **Bei Tian Kensai** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 12:31 am

I dont do enlightenment, but I do know thruth exists only when youve cleared the mashed potato and gravy off your finest china...you can see the bowl then you see....

Galim · Post by **Galim** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 12:31 am

and don't forget the rabbits and the ricecakes *g*

Bumbol Woodstock · Post by **Bumbol Woodstock** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 5:26 am

Paul seems to have gotten really obnoxious lately.... First of all he was/is (?) a ghost. I don't know how he came back to life... twice... Paul you should learn a few things before you go out and say people are roleplaying bad.
1. Ghost can not move or touch physical object. They are like air.
2. Stop with the Paul dieing as a mytyr (spelling?) bit. You have died twice and said you would never return, but you have.
3. You have little space to say anyone is has bad roleplaying since you have never roleplayed anything besides a human which is the easiest thing to roleplay.

I had to get it all out..

paul laffing · Post by **paul laffing** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 5:23 pm

Bumbol Woodstock wrote: 3. You have little space to say anyone is has bad roleplaying since you have never roleplayed anything besides a human which is the easiest thing to roleplay.

Can you prove that statement?

Bei Tian Kensai · Post by **Bei Tian Kensai** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 5:56 pm

Well whatelse have you been paul?

paul laffing · Post by **paul laffing** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 6:01 pm

I don't want to give away my other characters.

Bumbol Woodstock · Post by **Bumbol Woodstock** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 9:15 pm

Which means he hasn't

.
Also, your character is supposed to be 15 years old, how many 15 year olds does anyone know of owning a shop and trying to kill employees?

paul laffing · Post by **paul laffing** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 10:47 pm

There was a 10 year old who owned a speak-easy in the 19th century, I think... And don't forget about robocop

And I like to kill people and I'm younger than 15

Wait... I didn't say that.

Bei Tian Kensai · Post by **Bei Tian Kensai** » Tue Jul 15, 2003 1:06 am

I didnt know robocop owned a shop....what things did he sell? were they worth what he charged?

paul laffing · Post by **paul laffing** » Tue Jul 15, 2003 3:06 am

No, in the movie Robocop, this young punk owned a mafia or something.