The 20th Judicial Trial of the Lyrenzia Foundation has hereby begun:
The charges are:
1) Hans Gutenberg accuses Hagen von Rabenfeld of murdering himself with a bow.
Witness is Robert Schwarzfuss.
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Das 20. Gerichtsverfahren der Lyrenzia Foundation ist hiermit eröffnet:
Die Anklage ist folgende:
1) Hans Gutenberg klagt Hagen von Rabenfeld an, ihn mit einem Bogen umgebracht zu haben.
Zeuge ist Robert Schwarzfuss.
Lyrenzia Foundation: Judicial trial / Gerichtsverfahren #20
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Sehr geehrtes hohes Gericht,
ich bin zu Hagen gestoßen, kurz nachdem er von Hans Gutenberg angegriffen wurde. Ich habe Hagen von rabenfeld dann geholfen Hans Gutenberg zu schnappen und ihn zum Gefägnis zu bringen. Auf Höhe des Marktplatzes habe ich die Gruppe dann verlassen. Mit mir hat noch ein Ork uns begleitet. Allerdings kann ich mich nich mehr an seinen Namen erinnern. Ich galube er hat Hagen bis zum Gefägnis begleiten. Auf dem Weg von der Schmiede bis zum Marktplatz hat Herr Hagen von Rabenfeld Herrn Gutenberg aber kein einziges mal angegriffen. Das kann ich bezeugen.
gez.
Obolon
ich bin zu Hagen gestoßen, kurz nachdem er von Hans Gutenberg angegriffen wurde. Ich habe Hagen von rabenfeld dann geholfen Hans Gutenberg zu schnappen und ihn zum Gefägnis zu bringen. Auf Höhe des Marktplatzes habe ich die Gruppe dann verlassen. Mit mir hat noch ein Ork uns begleitet. Allerdings kann ich mich nich mehr an seinen Namen erinnern. Ich galube er hat Hagen bis zum Gefägnis begleiten. Auf dem Weg von der Schmiede bis zum Marktplatz hat Herr Hagen von Rabenfeld Herrn Gutenberg aber kein einziges mal angegriffen. Das kann ich bezeugen.
gez.
Obolon
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Hagen von Rabenfeld
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Wertes Gericht,
ich bitte folgende Tatsachen zu beachten.
1) Es gibt keinen Hans Gutenberg, das ist eine von vielen falschen Identitäten eines gewissen Halblings namens Ferdinand Kohlberg. Dazu habe ich bereits eine Nachricht an das schwarze Brett geheftet.
2) An dem Tage, von dem wir sprechen, trafen Trice und ich besagten Ferdinand Kohlberg, den Trice unter den Namen Eckbert kannte, weiterhin stellte er sich auch noch als Hans Gutenberg, Pax, Bauer Herold, Friedrich Tellinghausen und ähnlichem vor. Bei genauerer Untersuchung stellte er sich schließlich als Ferdinand Kohlberg heraus, beteiligt waren dabei Trice, Robert Schwarzfuß, Obolon, ich und andere.
3) Ferdinand Kohlberg ist ein bekannter Dieb und um sich einer genaueren Befragung zu entziehen griff er mich mit einem Dolch an und sprang einen Schritt zurück. Daraufhin habe ich meine Waffe erhoben. Zeugen hierfür: Mehrere Bürger, einer davon Keikan Hiru.
4) Kurz darauf gestand Ferdinand Kohlberg auf offener Strasse und wurde in das Gefängnis abgeführt. Zeugen: Keikan Hiru und Obolon
Fazit:
Ich plädiere auf "unschuldig", da ich Hans Gutenberg nicht umgebracht haben kann, da diese Person nicht existiert. Was den Fall mit Ferdinand Kohlberg angeht, plädiere ich auf "unschuldig", da ich aus Notwehr handelte. Ich war gezwungen zu kämpfen oder zu sterben und so wählte ich den Kampf und kann daran nichts falsches sehen.
~Hagen von Rabenfeld~
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To the court,
i ask you to consider the following facts.
1) There is no person called Hans Gutenberg, that is one of many cover identities of a certain Halfling called Ferdinand Kohlberg. Concerning this i already put a message at the shop wall.
2) At the day we speak of, Trice and myself met Ferdinand Kohlberg, know to trice under the name Eckbert, furthermore he introduced himself with several other names like Hans Gutenberg, Pax, farmer Herold, Friedrich Tellinghausen. As Trice, Robert Schwarzfuß, Obolon and myself inspected him more cosely we noticed it was Ferdinand Kohlberg.
3) Ferdinand Kohlberg is a known thief and to evade some probing questions, he attacked me with a dagger and jumped a step back. Then i raised my weapon. Witness for this: Several citizens one of them Keikan Hiru.
4) Soon after this Ferdinand Kohlberg confessed in the streets and was accompanied to the prison. Witnesses: Keikan Hiru and Obolon
Conclusion:
I plead "not guilty" because i cannot have killed Hans Gutenberg as there is no such person. Considering the case with Ferdinand Kohlberg, i plead "not guilty" because i acted in self defense. I was forced to fight or die and i choosed the fight and cannot see something wrong with this.
~Hagen von Rabenfeld~
ich bitte folgende Tatsachen zu beachten.
1) Es gibt keinen Hans Gutenberg, das ist eine von vielen falschen Identitäten eines gewissen Halblings namens Ferdinand Kohlberg. Dazu habe ich bereits eine Nachricht an das schwarze Brett geheftet.
2) An dem Tage, von dem wir sprechen, trafen Trice und ich besagten Ferdinand Kohlberg, den Trice unter den Namen Eckbert kannte, weiterhin stellte er sich auch noch als Hans Gutenberg, Pax, Bauer Herold, Friedrich Tellinghausen und ähnlichem vor. Bei genauerer Untersuchung stellte er sich schließlich als Ferdinand Kohlberg heraus, beteiligt waren dabei Trice, Robert Schwarzfuß, Obolon, ich und andere.
3) Ferdinand Kohlberg ist ein bekannter Dieb und um sich einer genaueren Befragung zu entziehen griff er mich mit einem Dolch an und sprang einen Schritt zurück. Daraufhin habe ich meine Waffe erhoben. Zeugen hierfür: Mehrere Bürger, einer davon Keikan Hiru.
4) Kurz darauf gestand Ferdinand Kohlberg auf offener Strasse und wurde in das Gefängnis abgeführt. Zeugen: Keikan Hiru und Obolon
Fazit:
Ich plädiere auf "unschuldig", da ich Hans Gutenberg nicht umgebracht haben kann, da diese Person nicht existiert. Was den Fall mit Ferdinand Kohlberg angeht, plädiere ich auf "unschuldig", da ich aus Notwehr handelte. Ich war gezwungen zu kämpfen oder zu sterben und so wählte ich den Kampf und kann daran nichts falsches sehen.
~Hagen von Rabenfeld~
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To the court,
i ask you to consider the following facts.
1) There is no person called Hans Gutenberg, that is one of many cover identities of a certain Halfling called Ferdinand Kohlberg. Concerning this i already put a message at the shop wall.
2) At the day we speak of, Trice and myself met Ferdinand Kohlberg, know to trice under the name Eckbert, furthermore he introduced himself with several other names like Hans Gutenberg, Pax, farmer Herold, Friedrich Tellinghausen. As Trice, Robert Schwarzfuß, Obolon and myself inspected him more cosely we noticed it was Ferdinand Kohlberg.
3) Ferdinand Kohlberg is a known thief and to evade some probing questions, he attacked me with a dagger and jumped a step back. Then i raised my weapon. Witness for this: Several citizens one of them Keikan Hiru.
4) Soon after this Ferdinand Kohlberg confessed in the streets and was accompanied to the prison. Witnesses: Keikan Hiru and Obolon
Conclusion:
I plead "not guilty" because i cannot have killed Hans Gutenberg as there is no such person. Considering the case with Ferdinand Kohlberg, i plead "not guilty" because i acted in self defense. I was forced to fight or die and i choosed the fight and cannot see something wrong with this.
~Hagen von Rabenfeld~
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Robert Schwarzfuss
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I only have one question for you, Hagen von Rabenfeld.
This is only a question I have for you, and will not neccessarily have heavy burdance on your verdict.
Additionally, I suggest that all parties in court try to make sure their witnesses speak up. It is not very meaningful for the accused or the accuser to say the names of witnesses if those witnesses do not actually speak up themselves.
If I understand this correctly, you admit that you fought back, and so can you please identify what weapon it was that you used?3) Ferdinand Kohlberg is a known thief and to evade some probing questions, he attacked me with a dagger and jumped a step back. Then i raised my weapon. Witness for this: Several citizens one of them Keikan Hiru.
Considering the case with Ferdinand Kohlberg, i plead "not guilty" because i acted in self defense. I was forced to fight or die and i choosed the fight and cannot see something wrong with this.
This is only a question I have for you, and will not neccessarily have heavy burdance on your verdict.
Additionally, I suggest that all parties in court try to make sure their witnesses speak up. It is not very meaningful for the accused or the accuser to say the names of witnesses if those witnesses do not actually speak up themselves.
I met "Hans Gutenberg" on that day, together with Hagen.
Actually, the halfling's name, who calls himself Hans Gutenberg, is in full
length (if he hasn't changed some titles again) Eckbert Ferdinand Kohlberg Pax-Underhill.
Further, I am sorry to say, that I wasn't actually there, when the halfling
started attacking, but had to leave a short while ago, though I did witness
him to start causing trouble, as usual when he turns up...
By this, I mean he started aggrevating people, by for instance calling them
names and stole several things (shovels, crop).
To say so, I've known him as "Mr. Underhill" for some time, until he revealed
his real name to me. In this time, he made at least one statement to me,
that he clearly stated, he was a thief. Further, he attacked me twice once,
thinking, he was doing this on the order of Moshran. Sadly, I had to attack
him here, too, since he wouldn't let me be. He tried killing me twice, failing
both times.
This is what I have to say to the subject. In my opinion, Hagen is not guilty,
stating on "Hans"'s record.
Trice
Actually, the halfling's name, who calls himself Hans Gutenberg, is in full
length (if he hasn't changed some titles again) Eckbert Ferdinand Kohlberg Pax-Underhill.
Further, I am sorry to say, that I wasn't actually there, when the halfling
started attacking, but had to leave a short while ago, though I did witness
him to start causing trouble, as usual when he turns up...
By this, I mean he started aggrevating people, by for instance calling them
names and stole several things (shovels, crop).
To say so, I've known him as "Mr. Underhill" for some time, until he revealed
his real name to me. In this time, he made at least one statement to me,
that he clearly stated, he was a thief. Further, he attacked me twice once,
thinking, he was doing this on the order of Moshran. Sadly, I had to attack
him here, too, since he wouldn't let me be. He tried killing me twice, failing
both times.
This is what I have to say to the subject. In my opinion, Hagen is not guilty,
stating on "Hans"'s record.
Trice
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To the court,
i will try to explain the events more in detail in order to answer Dylucks question appropriately.
Yes i admit to have fought back and as i had a bow in my hands, as i was just coming back from a hunt, i used this type of weapon. After Ferdinand stabbed at me, he jumped back a step, but didnt move on as he would have done, if he were inclined to flee. So i assumed that he was readying a more dangerous weapon, a sword or a bow and as i came to know that he sniped at citizens at several occasions, i could not take my time and switch my weapon. I would have preffered it, to use the hilt of a sword or an axe to knock him unconscious, but as i had to fear for my life, i decided to use the weapon in my hands. As Trice and Malinne already mentioned i am no great bowman but at this distance i hit.
I would like to add, that the witness Keikan Hiru seems not to be able to answer my messages or report to the court. But as Ferdinand was imprisoned only a few minutes after this incident and i have no keys for the prison doors, it is clear that someone, who had the authority to imprison people, was with me and he would not have acted immidiatelly if he didnt hear Ferdinand´s confession i mentioned at point 4). I will talk to other witnesses and ask them to report to the court what they have seen of Ferdinand attempt to stab me.
~Hagen von Rabenfeld~
i will try to explain the events more in detail in order to answer Dylucks question appropriately.
Yes i admit to have fought back and as i had a bow in my hands, as i was just coming back from a hunt, i used this type of weapon. After Ferdinand stabbed at me, he jumped back a step, but didnt move on as he would have done, if he were inclined to flee. So i assumed that he was readying a more dangerous weapon, a sword or a bow and as i came to know that he sniped at citizens at several occasions, i could not take my time and switch my weapon. I would have preffered it, to use the hilt of a sword or an axe to knock him unconscious, but as i had to fear for my life, i decided to use the weapon in my hands. As Trice and Malinne already mentioned i am no great bowman but at this distance i hit.
I would like to add, that the witness Keikan Hiru seems not to be able to answer my messages or report to the court. But as Ferdinand was imprisoned only a few minutes after this incident and i have no keys for the prison doors, it is clear that someone, who had the authority to imprison people, was with me and he would not have acted immidiatelly if he didnt hear Ferdinand´s confession i mentioned at point 4). I will talk to other witnesses and ask them to report to the court what they have seen of Ferdinand attempt to stab me.
~Hagen von Rabenfeld~
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I was also there at the time of these act's,and since I have a good memroiy,I'll tell the court every thing that I saw, before I left the area.
I came in to town and saw Salathe,Hagen,and I few people I didn't know.I started to talk to Hagen and Salathe when I notice that Hagen was talking to some,that's when I saw the man pull a weapon a Knife I belive and attcked Hagen....hagen then fought back with his bow,trying to deffend him self from the attacker.
I know Hagen very well and I know he would not attack without reason and would never kill unless it's the only way
I came in to town and saw Salathe,Hagen,and I few people I didn't know.I started to talk to Hagen and Salathe when I notice that Hagen was talking to some,that's when I saw the man pull a weapon a Knife I belive and attcked Hagen....hagen then fought back with his bow,trying to deffend him self from the attacker.
I know Hagen very well and I know he would not attack without reason and would never kill unless it's the only way
Last edited by Kincent Nolatri on Tue Jul 01, 2003 7:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Nots guilty I says! Mister Hagen is a niceness mans. He nevers attacked anyones when I was aroundses. Even when he solds a fire sword to me, he saids something likes "Nevers use its unless you MUSTS". I wasnts there when the fights took place buts I knows Mister Hagen wouldnts do this kind of things!
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