Lyrenzia Foundation: Judicial Trial #8

Malinne · Post by **Malinne** » Wed May 21, 2003 6:03 am

Well, you can't expect me to know everything can you? As I have noticed so far, not all testimonies are that of those who are present at the crime scenes. About being biased, what about Draakon? He is a friend of your is he not? If his testimony is valid then so is mine.

Let Lyrenzia decide whether my testimony is accepable or not. That is not your place. You're just the one who whined to them.

Elaralith · Post by **Elaralith** » Wed May 21, 2003 6:05 am

Malinne, your testimony is not quite valid because you were only present for less than a fraction of what actually happened in the events of this trial.

Malinne · Post by **Malinne** » Wed May 21, 2003 6:17 am

Excuse me, Elaralith, what did I already say about that?

I gave my damned testimony, which is what I saw and heard. That is what a testimony is. I'm not saying it is everything. I witnessed what I witnessed. Maybe more will come back to me if I put more thought into it.

If my testimony is invalid, then Draaken's testimony is your only valid one, but maybe even he wasn't there the whole time.

Grant Herion · Post by **Grant Herion** » Wed May 21, 2003 6:25 am

Elararith,
I believe should drop the charge against Zerbus. For you already tried to take the law and justice into your hands when you tried to kill Zerbus. Therefore you both are even. Elararith, if you do not drop the charge, then Zerbus can then charge you for attacking him, and for casting in town.

Malinne · Post by **Malinne** » Wed May 21, 2003 6:29 am

Grant has a point. I say you drop the charges as well. According to you there is only one valid testimony anyway.

Thereadore · Post by **Thereadore** » Wed May 21, 2003 8:25 am

My take on thisss...

Tifareth was drinking and challenged Elaralith to a duel which Elaralith declined and insssulted Tifareth, in Tifareth'sss eyesss anywayssss.

Ssso Tifareth demanded an appology or the duel, which Elaralith did not do sssuficiently in Tifareth'ssss eyes, nor othersss eyesss from what I've heard here.

Ssss, sssounds like a duel asssked for and accepted to me. Where isss the crime?

Draakon · Post by **Draakon** » Wed May 21, 2003 1:54 pm

Draakon places yet another note on the board and adresses it to Malinne

Dear Malinne, if thou hath read my testimony fully and what I wrote before as well it would be known that I concider all three involved in this as friends, thus I sought to stop the fight from happening from the start as I am sure most have seen. Also I belive what I have told hardly gives any real indication that one side be right and the other not it be merley a telling of what took place broke down a bit but with care not to tilt the testimony to one or the others favour as then it would be completley useless for a trial. I was infact there the whole time except for when I for a moment went astray in the garden outside the seahorse as I also have told I belive nothing of real importance happened as by then everything that would lead to the fight already had. I am sure they may have spoke fighting or inuslting words at eachother or demanding a duell or an apoligy much as before. Also I am yet to see either Zerbus, Tifareth or the lady Elaralith to add to my testimony or do dismiss something so I take it they feel it be told as true as it could from one torn between the both sides.

As for what was said in the crowd I do remember the lady Elaralith asking if everyone was so bloodthirsty wich she hardly can be blamed for thinking as I was the only one trying to stop the fighting while the others did nothing or insulted Elaralith and tried to get the fight going. I spoke little of it as I felt it had little purpose and could not add much that would make a decision easier. Also the reason I did not say more of it was because I felt much the same as Elaralith in that matter that most of the crowd was indeed hoping to see blood spilled...some will say they had their reasons for this no doubt and that is fine and I do not wish to argue about any such things, but it does not mean I must like it.

The note is signed Draakon Na' Kûrtak

Aragon · Post by **Aragon** » Wed May 21, 2003 3:09 pm

Dear Elaralith,

Elaralith wrote:Malinne, your testimony is not quite valid because you were only present for less than a fraction of what actually happened in the events of this trial.

it is the work of the judges to decide, which testimony is valid to be count or not. The only thing you can do, is to say, that reported facts in a testimony are false in your opinion. But than, it is also the work of the judges to decide, wether they believe it or not.

And someone, who hasn't seen the whole story but only parts of it may also give a testimony of these parts, he has seen.
It may also help for the judges to find a justified answer.

Aragon ben Galwan
Earl and Templar of the Grey Rose
Priest of Malachin
Councilor of Lyrenzia

paul laffing · Post by **paul laffing** » Thu May 22, 2003 2:15 am

Aragon, how can I get my own trial against Elaralith for casting offensive spells on me within town?

Caranthir the great · Post by **Caranthir the great** » Thu May 22, 2003 8:14 am

I think, that only one trial will be arranged.
However, I would say, that your accusation would be simply added along with the other accusations.
Can you provide any names of witnesses or something similiar?

Roke · Post by **Roke** » Thu May 22, 2003 10:36 pm

About the insults Elaralith recieved, she has insulted many people, including myself and most of these people were humans or trusted her before she insulted this, of course this was all before Lyrenzia. So if the testimony about Elaralith attacking after the insults I believe she had no right to attack them, as my grandfather said "If you can't take it, don't dish it out", although he was very ill when he said it but I believe it is true.

paul laffing · Post by **paul laffing** » Thu May 22, 2003 11:27 pm

Caranthir the great wrote:I think, that only one trial will be arranged.
However, I would say, that your accusation would be simply added along with the other accusations.
Can you provide any names of witnesses or something similiar?

Pebrarco, Cain, Drathe. Pebrarco is my key witness.

Malinne · Post by **Malinne** » Fri May 23, 2003 1:32 am

I hear you Draakon, and I did read your whole testimony. I wasn't trying to establish that there was some invalid testimonies being made, that was Elaralith. I guess it didn't really apply to my argument against her, but it is all settled anyway. Again with the bloodthirsty thing, she simply accused everybody present that they were bloodthirsty. I was not in the least bloodthirsty at the time. My alibi for being present was that I was looking for people to be around, as I don't like being alone, plus the wall provided comfortable shade. Perhaps it isn't very relevant, but that was the kind of setting and that was the kind of mood Elaralith was in. It was very obvious she would have taken the law in her own hands by judging people and attempting to solve the problem herself, which would have meant becoming more agggressive. In that case this shouldn't have been brought to Lyrenzia in the first place, and I still believe it would be wise of her to drop the case as it is.

Elaralith · Post by **Elaralith** » Sun May 25, 2003 10:07 pm

And what is the verdict of the jurisdiction of Lyrenzia?

Zerbus · Post by **Zerbus** » Mon May 26, 2003 2:38 pm

Lyrenzia,

more than 5 days have passed now - what is the outcome of this trial?

Zerbus

Aragon · Post by **Aragon** » Mon May 26, 2003 4:35 pm

We haven't forgotten this trial.
The final result will be given tomorrow morning.

Aragon ben Galwan
Earl and Templar of the Grey Rose
Priest of Malachin
Councilor of Lyrenzia

Lyrenzia Foundation · Post by **Lyrenzia Foundation** » Tue May 27, 2003 9:23 am

Tifareth has been found guilty of the following charges:
1) Elaralith accuses Tifareth of an unjustified attack against herself

The total sentence for these crimes are 5 hours of prison.

Tifareth now has 24 hours to choose imprisonment. If she does not choose imprisonment by this time, she will then be labeled as "Exile" for 5 days.

Zerbus has been found innocent of the following charges:
2) Elaralith accuses Zerbus of an unjustified attack against herself

Zerbus · Post by **Zerbus** » Tue May 27, 2003 3:31 pm

Lyrenzia,

what do you plan to do with Elaralith?
I understand that this was a trial against Tifareth and me, but I do not
understand why Elaralith has not been sentenced yet in this case, or do
you plan to sentence her only on Cains behalf?
Furthermore I was asking for Elaralith's title of "Priestess of Elara" to be
removed officially from her.

I do not accept Tifareth to be sentenced while Elaralith is not touched.

yours,
Zerbus

Moathia · Post by **Moathia** » Tue May 27, 2003 6:14 pm

Zerbus, perhaps you should add your charges to Cain's and therefore more time will be added onto her sentence.

Tifa Reth · Post by **Tifa Reth** » Tue May 27, 2003 6:31 pm

I think this is ridicoular, i dont understand why i should go into prison because a coward woman provocated me. I really dont care for Lyrenzia, nor anybody else who want to tell me what i should do.

Try to bring me in prison if you like..

Lyrenzia Foundation · Post by **Lyrenzia Foundation** » Tue May 27, 2003 6:39 pm

As Tifareth hasn't choosen imprisonment, she will then be labeled as "Exile" for 5 days.
She also loose any rights of voting within Lyrenzia.

Who can't handle to drink, shouldn't drink.