Stuck

Senk Kluuspointe Gren · Thu May 22, 2003 11:00 am

Damn it! I'm stuck! I was exploring town, trying to figure out the controls to this game due to the lack of a manual, when I got a little bored and logged. Now whenever I log back in, I can't move my character at all, all he can do is speak.

I'm on tile:
x:29 y:6 z:-3

martin · Post by **martin** » Thu May 22, 2003 11:10 am

I logged in to help you but you were not there.

Martin

Senk Kluuspointe Gren · Thu May 22, 2003 11:33 am

I can't stay on for too long, after a while the server kicks me out saying I'm flooding it with commands accusing me of using macros. I can assure you I am not. I don't even need to press or click anything and it says this.

martin · Post by **martin** » Thu May 22, 2003 11:57 am

It would help very much if you tell us your number and your characters EXACT name.

Martin

Freo · Post by **Freo** » Thu May 22, 2003 7:23 pm

This has happened to me before, what I did was log out than logged back in. I was able to move again.

Ellaron · Post by **Ellaron** » Thu May 22, 2003 7:28 pm

You're not downloading anything in the background are you. If you have a slowish connection, or are doing other things with your bandwidth while trying to play, illarion tends to throw a tizzy fit.

Senk Kluuspointe Gren · Thu May 22, 2003 9:03 pm

I've been using Kazaa while playing. I'll kill it and see if that makes a difference.
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Didn't work.
By the way, my character's full name is Senk Kluuspointe Gren, with 'Elder' being the title. I don't know my number.

Crocket · Post by **Crocket** » Thu May 22, 2003 10:42 pm

use F12 to see your number.
Then I would PM it to Martin. I wouldn't post numbers here unless you want everyone in Illarion to know who you are. If you have nothing to hide than go ahead.

You could also try rebooting your computer.

I'm not sure but I believe Kazaa still runs in the background even if you hit the x button. You have to go to the menu bar at the bottom of the screen and right click on it to close it.

paul laffing · Post by **paul laffing** » Thu May 22, 2003 10:59 pm

...it could have something to do with the evilness of Kazaa...

...Kazaa loads spyware onto your computer...

...My father's computer crashed from Kazaa...

Sir Gannon · Post by **Sir Gannon** » Fri May 23, 2003 5:01 pm

Thats why us geeky people get Kazaa lite. It only has ONE spyware in it... And its deletable

Not to mention using firewall programs... With zone alarms... Yup the goverment is out to get me.

paul laffing · Post by **paul laffing** » Fri May 23, 2003 9:21 pm

Firewalls are illegal in the US, or will be, because it blocks your IP address. Thats what I heard.

martin · Post by **martin** » Fri May 23, 2003 9:24 pm

paul laffing wrote:Firewalls are illegal in the US, or will be, because it blocks your IP address. Thats what I heard.

LOL, land of the fries. Free. Sorry.

Is it illegal to breathe in the US?

Martin

Caranthir the great · Post by **Caranthir the great** » Fri May 23, 2003 9:28 pm

Okay, there is no excuse, that is just dumb. Period.

Gro'bul · Post by **Gro'bul** » Fri May 23, 2003 9:33 pm

Hehe, land of the fries, thats a good one.

Have you tried pushing yourself?

paul laffing · Post by **paul laffing** » Fri May 23, 2003 9:41 pm

I'm going to keep my firewall up for as long as I can, but not too long. The ATF might come and storm my compound... errr, I mean house.

Crocket · Post by **Crocket** » Fri May 23, 2003 9:48 pm

I don't think they will make firewalls illegal just because it blocks your IP address. That's like saying it is illegal to have an unlisted phone #.

That would be crazy. Large cooperations use firewalls to protect their computers. I believe you just heard a rumor somewhere.

Sir Gannon · Post by **Sir Gannon** » Fri May 23, 2003 10:07 pm

Hehe thats Paul for ya. LETS OVER RUN HIS COMPOUND!!!

Miliae · Post by **Miliae** » Fri May 23, 2003 10:08 pm

Hehe...there's nothing illegal about using a firewall. At least not the United States I live in

Shi'voc · Post by **Shi'voc** » Fri May 23, 2003 10:18 pm

seems there are some people who know all about computers here... <sigh>
a firewall doesn't "block your ip"...
it merely blocks access to your computer...
it just decides which other computers may receive an answer fro your computer and which don't.
you can't hide your ip...
except by not having an internet connection

paul laffing · Post by **paul laffing** » Fri May 23, 2003 10:36 pm

Miliae wrote:Hehe...there's nothing illegal about using a firewall. At least not the United States I live in

No, not illegal... yet...

Hides deeper in his compound in Waco, Texas... watching for the ATF...

martin · Post by **martin** » Fri May 23, 2003 10:59 pm

I guess you mixed it up with something else.
Cryptography or something.

Martin

PS.: For certain purposes it is possible to hide your IP adress. However, this is not done by a firewall.

Shi'voc · Post by **Shi'voc** » Fri May 23, 2003 11:06 pm

it's not.
you only have the possibility to use a proxy or something similiar to make someone believe your ip is the one of the proxy... but you still expose an ip adress... and it's still possible to track back to your original ip...

paul laffing · Post by **paul laffing** » Fri May 23, 2003 11:08 pm

thats it. I believe they are going to make proxy's illegal, but I need to check. Sorry for my other mistake.

martin · Post by **martin** » Fri May 23, 2003 11:29 pm

Shi'voc wrote:it's not.
you only have the possibility to use a proxy or something similiar to make someone believe your ip is the one of the proxy... but you still expose an ip adress... and it's still possible to track back to your original ip...

Yes.

You just need to read what I have written, everything will then turn out to be the same as you say here.
You can hide for certain purposes on certain places, e.g. you can prevent people from seeing your IP when visiting their webpage (by using one or multiple proxies).

There's nothing more I said.

Martin

Serpardum · Post by **Serpardum** » Sat May 24, 2003 5:54 am

The only thing they could conceivably think about making illegal is off site proxy servers.

That is, you connect to a machine out there on the internet somewhere and use it as a proxy. There are a number of companies, very discreet, that acutally do this, they allow you to use their computers as proxies, for a fee, and they dont' keep any records.

The normal proxy server, however, is nothing like this.

1. If you are using an on site proxy server the IP address is of a machine on your LAN (Local Area Network) and would be either your residence, or your business address. They got you.

2. With the limited IP addresses available under normal IPv4 there just aren't enough addresses available to give every machine on the internet a public ip address. So they are implementing IPv6. Which gives a number of factors more available IP addresses. But, IPv6 is still being rolled out and there are a large number of machines, networks, routers, hubs, switches, etc... that wouldn't know what to do with it yet until they get upgraed. This means that for all the computers in a business LAN to connect to the internet they use a Proxy server, or a NAT server (NAT is N<something> Address Translation). A NAT server for most intents and purposes could be considered a form of proxy server.

Making proxy servers illegal would bring down large corporations internet access.

3. It's just stupid.