Talking freely,

Lloyd · Post by **Lloyd** » Tue Apr 16, 2002 1:40 pm

Hi, since there seems to be to much contriversy, I will tell you aLL who I really am right now
my name is jonthan wilhan I live in missouri I work as a car mechanic and I live in a white vnyl sided house, I make 45,000$ roughly a year and my rent is 900$ a month.
I came from the came known as stellar frontier. I played said game with the character sean-san who created an email account for our fleet on yahoo, he does not use it anymore I guess since to get an answer I had to use his "home" email adress
My address is the same becuase I thought it would help me find him. And I am not willing to give you all my real address, becuase I need it for business purposes.
now please stop saying I am sean, I am not. Stop treated me like sean, I am not. we act the same probably becuase we came from the same game,same fleet. maybe becuase I am roleplaying an orc, and orcs are said to spread choas and violance yaadaayaadaayaadaa.
now that I have given my explanation, perhaps you all will tell me your names and states and jobs and houses?

Lloyd · Post by **Lloyd** » Tue Apr 16, 2002 1:45 pm

#me check his msger

lol, now that I am done explaining myself, I bet you feel stupid ROKE
hehehehehe.

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Tue Apr 16, 2002 3:28 pm

And do you also share keyboards? That's what sean said was happening to him, and it seems to be the same with you. And you both have the exact same personality (stubborn). Maybe if you hadn't gotten on everyone's badside you might have been able to give us your email to prove it. And you seemed to hold a grudge against Dyluck and Erdrick as soon as your character was created. So either you know EVERYTHING about sean-san, or you ARE him. I can dig up about 50 posts that sean has threatened Dyluck or Erdrick, which are the exact same people that you are threatening. As far as I know, you have never met Erdrick... Strange huh? As I said, you act so much the same that I dont think you can ever convince all of us that you are not sean.

Lasukie · Post by **Lasukie** » Tue Apr 16, 2002 4:09 pm

ok smartguy, explain how I am on now and Lloyd isent, if we were the same, he would have had to log out and in again, thus his name would still be on active users.
alot of keyboards suck to.
hey Lloyd I'm back in SF

Sir Aragonius · Post by **Sir Aragonius** » Tue Apr 16, 2002 4:53 pm

Lasuukieh = Sean = Lloyd?

Isn't this really unimportant for playing a role? As long as he logged in as Lloyd he's Lloyd and not Sean or whoever. So if he's playing Lloyd nobody should threat him like Lasooky (or whatever)...

So where's the problem?

Greetings

Ara

(Edited by Sir Aragonius at 4:54 pm on April 16, 2002)

Rhiko · Post by **Rhiko** » Tue Apr 16, 2002 5:15 pm

duh Lasukie,you can double log in dont' you know that?

Ishans Schatten · Post by **Ishans Schatten** » Tue Apr 16, 2002 5:37 pm

I agree with Sir Aragonius it doesnt matter who play lloyd or sean or who else.

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Tue Apr 16, 2002 7:17 pm

The problem is not that, it is with him using grudges that Lasukie carried and putting them into Lloyd. Before Lloyd had even met Dyluck or Erdrick, he was mouthing off to them, threatening them, just like lasukie used to do. So how did he do this? I think it is pretty obvious to see. This is the part that matters when playing a role. Knowing that he is or isn't sean is not going to change my roleplay, I still hate all of those characters. I would just like him to quit using knowledge from lasukie in lloyd.

@Lasukie:
Rhiko's right, you can double log in. Even if you are both in Illarion at the same time, it proves nothing. I have two computers with internet, who says that you dont? There is really no way that you can prove this. And how did you know to look on the boards right now if you quit? I haven't seen you active on the boards ever since, but I have seen Lloyd. Perhaps he told you? Nah, you quit. Yes, he did tell you, but the words never left your head.

Korwin · Post by **Korwin** » Tue Apr 16, 2002 11:06 pm

That is just really creepy! you have almost the exact same personalities!
Twins seperated at birth? I think so

Setherioth · Post by **Setherioth** » Tue Apr 16, 2002 11:39 pm

if you really want to find out, ask Bror, though i doubt he'll tell you, but he can check their IP adresses...now it doesn't gaurentee, but it'll show whether sean, lasukie, and llyod are all using the same computer....

Lloyd · Post by **Lloyd** » Tue Apr 16, 2002 11:50 pm

actually, if the numbers of my IP are posted without prior permission will NOT be very happy, so please dont.
now the above is ONLY if the numbers of my IP are posted, not for much else.
sean-san, so you created a new char huh? you make a fleet yet?

@korwin,
simple, I do reasearch on games before I logged on, I simply got your number from one of the many posts and when I logged on, your char said korn muphin two, bror might want to change that since you never introed me yet.

@rhiko,
if you want a screen of my profile, which has it set so I ALWAYS come on as lloyd, which means double logging will make it kinda obvious if you were to see it.

I do not have any grudges, I made simple logic deductions from research, I checked the boards webpages and other sources and previous players. thats how I found out about the bloodskulls,grey light
smacc,silverstar,rangers.
Erdrick
Dyluck
Gurok

you know what I mean, besides I have seen computers with the same IP Addy anyways, the first versions of SF used it as ship identifiers, but to many ships had the same addy....strange eh? I bet you thought it couldent happen.
now I am going to play for a while, tune a car and get some sleep.

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Wed Apr 17, 2002 3:05 am

So you make your judgements on what others have said? Not very wise at all. And it's really.... weird to do so much "research" without even playing before.

Lloyd · Post by **Lloyd** » Wed Apr 17, 2002 1:23 pm

acutally no its not, even though I overlooked the fact that the game is made by college students, the players are in the 13-16 range.

Gurok · Post by **Gurok** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 5:17 am

Lloyd is Lloyd. Who cares if he has not or has played as another character in the past? When one ends, they are done, and sometimes a new one may begin. And Astral...how can you possibly say that it is bad to learn from what others have said? seriously though, do you go to school? what do you think you are doing there? Im not defending the actions of Lloyd, only the integridy which he deserves, as we all do. Once something is posted on the town boards it becomes common knowledge to anyone and everyone. So judgments can and will be made before people even enter the town, just be more careful what you dont want others to see if you feel the need to post something. Ok im dont sticking up for the poor Lloyd, cary on then....

Emhyr van Emreis · Post by **Emhyr van Emreis** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 6:51 am

Greetings!

I fully agree with every word Gurok has just said. I myself post on these boards often, as you might have noticed, but, as you also might have noticed, I know very few of the people I am speaking to here personally. I am forming my opinion from what I read on the boards. I think it is a fully plausible explanation that Lloyd likes sean and lasukie, and because of this automatically he started disliking the people who sean/lasukie was fighting with on the boards.

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 8:45 am

OH sure.....from reading the boards, Lloyd just happens to develop the same opinions and grudges to the same people that sean/lasukie had, such as Ghandi, Erdrick, Astral, and myself. Who cares if he hates all the same people through "research" (oh and this "research" must be a logical reason to hate these people, because I'm soooooooo sure that anyone else who "researched" would also hate these people since they're all so unliked by everyone else too besided sean/lasukie right?) and who cares if he behaves just the same as sean/lasukie. Sure, that's all great roleplay. Yeah, you all go on believing that.

sean, after everything you've been through, haven't you woken up yet? Are you still blaming others for your troubles? I thought I had finally helped you realized the truth and that you were ready to change. I sincerely thought before that you were a person with the right heart who got misunderstood because of your impulsive behavior and I felt sympathy you. But you just continue to act like a petty and small man and misbehave. I'm really disappointed in you.

(Edited by Dyluck at 11:49 pm on April 17, 2002)

Lloyd · Post by **Lloyd** » Fri Apr 19, 2002 12:45 am

LISTEN YOU POMPOUS LITTLE TEENAGE FREAK, I AM NOT SEAN!
I WORK AT Shifties Quick Lube Auto Shop.
WHY DONT YOU WAKE UP, TAKE OFF A FEW PIERCINGS STAND UP AND WALK OUT THAT THING CALLED A DOOR INTO THE LIGHT!

I dont often get angry at people over the internet, but your just a little punk who obviously has problems adapting from his own judgement to see the rest of the world, oh yes and the truth. I recomend going to,
GET A LIFE COUNSILLING.

now that I have out done my allotted board shouting time, I'm going to work on the Pontiac grand am now.

Astral · Post by **Astral** » Fri Apr 19, 2002 1:07 am

I agree with Dyluck, if he does everything exactly the same as sean/lasukie, then that is not good roleplay. It stated in one of the rules that you may have more than one character, but you have to separate them. And that is NOT what Lloyd is doing. It also stated that there we to be no insults to the PLAYER.

Lloyd has the same personality, he insults people the same, he preforms the same actions. If you think this is a good way to seperate the characters, think again.

Dyluck · Post by **Dyluck** » Fri Apr 19, 2002 1:22 am

Gee Lloyd, was all that fruity yelling in response at me?? Strange, I only left a message for sean on my last post, not you.

Lloyd · Post by **Lloyd** » Fri Apr 19, 2002 2:48 am

wrongo,
"lloyd just happens to have a grudge.."
stop using my name in the same sentence, I am tired of it already, and I am espeacilly tired of you damned mages!

Lloyd · Post by **Lloyd** » Fri Apr 19, 2002 3:10 am

Listen you sick and twisted teenagers,
I only have Lloyd, last time I checked, anyways.
Dyluck, I was yelling at you becuase, lo and behold sean isent here nor has he posted on this topic using that name, thus that post was void and directed at me becuase whoa re you calling sean, oh right me.
about my roleplay, it is not the same, I have not dragged anyone unwillingly into a conflict have I, you want to fight me, I want to fight you, anyone else who does gets involved, if I remember, sean/lasukie brought in as much people as he could, he had a cowardly character.

now, does anyone of you (directed at astral and dyluck ONLY)
know how to disasemble a tranny, put it back together again with higher gear ratios and a duel plated clutch?

Ghandi · Post by **Ghandi** » Fri Apr 19, 2002 3:31 am

Sean-san loved to attack me. So do you...

Roke · Post by **Roke** » Fri Apr 19, 2002 4:14 am

Lloyd/sean whatever, I could create an account with another charactor of mine post something on a topic and then a half an hour later I could post on the same subject with another charactor/account. You can't really prove that you and sean are separate by just posting but how about we resolve this matter soon?

Erdrick · Post by **Erdrick** » Fri Apr 19, 2002 5:06 am

I have a handful of characters, at least 5 which are active. I seperate them all. For instance, say number #1 hates Sean (Which of course does not) and #3 meets him and learns a bit about him, and is neutral. See, with Sean, he has all of these grudges, and everyone hates him, so he makes new characters and new identities, but his hate is so great he has a mission to get back at those which drove him to starting anew (Again)
That is the reason for his insanity. I think everyone who hates Sean should not hate Lloyd, and Lloyd should not take the opinions of his good friend, since they lead him to the same predicament Sean was in.
Thanks for reading my post. I am 99.99% sure that is exactly why.
The other .01% is that he really isn't Sean. But highly unlikely.

Bror · Post by **Bror** » Fri Apr 19, 2002 6:45 pm

Who cares if they are the same. The only one who has to know, if they are the same, is the person who decides about punishments and this person knows already.

Thread closed.