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Something to think about... Long, but necessary in my eyes.

Post by Kalypse »

I appologise if this is not the proper place to write this, but I had a few things to say and hear others before I start considering my final decision of leaving the game.

Im tired of seeing people stab each other on the boards and log in the game and see a ghost town where every day is the same. We have almost no other option to interact in Illarion if not for those awkward demon appearances in town. It's like having a hell portal in Trollsbane and once in a while a demon escape and fall from the heavens on the heads of the citizens. The Lyrenzia foundation, in my opinion, has a good base for starting, but it cant be done really in the current situation of the game. It will only be a temporary solution and when things change as people say it will, if it will really change, there will be no more left of the characters than lots of different races that think alike. I was told that Trollsbane was meant to be a place where the races chose to live in peace, but the races will never ever think the same way because its a culture they cannot leave behind. Now everywhere I look there is an orc eating fruits and speaking politely, an elf blacksmithing the whole day, a dwarf that likes to stay out in the open and other things.

I don't know about everybody else, but the feeling I have is that Lyrenzia would have much more chances of success if there was at least one other town so people would have the chance to choose what they really want to be doing. It would also increase the possibilities of roleplaying since the path from one to the other could be dangerous and a weak peasant would have to hire a skilled fighter to help him or her through one city to another. One could play a messenger between the cities and people could hire them to deliver a message to someone else. There are so many options...

Once again I am deeply sorry to both players and Illarion staff to be writing this, but I really needed to share my frustrations towards the game before I make the decision to leave, because I find Illarion as a game with much potential that is being wasted.

Some of the players, and even the staff will probably consider my next few words as egoistic, self-centered or whatever, but I do not mind. I needed to share it anyway, especially since that was not my intention. Ever since the first time me and some friends had the idea of creating the Elven Community my primary goal was to build a home so we had a chance of living out in the forests as elves would, doing things elves would, like taking care of crops, singing, dancing, working together and other things to that kind. I never had enough money as required to build it because my character is not the kind who would care about money and this purpose of the community was held by donations and the little money I would make with my character. Now that we have the money to do so... and I didn't even ask for a real building... I just asked for a place far away from town with some chairs, tables and a few statues that would be used for roleplaying purposes.. and a depot.. and I know that now most people will think that I am asking too much, but I shall explain why.

I thought over the consequences of having a depot away from town over and over again and how that could cause trouble, but I thought of a few ideas that with a little work, patience and the help of some friends could maybe work out. I am also aware that maybe I should not be posting this since its an idea I had and could be used the wrong way, but it won't make much difference if I decide to leave the game, which is what I am inclined to do on the actual situation.. am I not right?

So... I thought we could have a depot far from town inside elven property, but for roleplaying reasons and for the depot nature, we thought that it wouldn't make sense if the elf would put their things in the depot miles away from another place and then get the same thing in town. Our idea would be to train the elves of the community to attend to a regular basis caravan that would take the goods from the elves from and to town.. and that would be like some kind of market day or something.. I didnt develop that idea. So the elves could only transfer their goods on those days and we could walk together symbolizing the caravan, which would open space for.. also well trained thieves that would play the robbery.. and even characters like Belegi.. I dont know where she is now... but she was a guard as I heard and she had nothing to guard, so maybe then these people would have something to do and even be hired for protection, I dont know... I even got a few of my elven friends to give up on a few items once in a while for the sake of a well roleplayed theft and they decided that a few made items and some gold coins was not too much to lose if that would help with fun for the players.

There was also another problem, that would be the misuse of the depot by people who did not belong to the community while nobody was there to watch, which I find an extreme crime against roleplay but there is a great chance of happening nowadays. So we thought of the statues on each corner of the elven land, and since most of the elves in the community now are mages we thought of roleplaying some sort of ceremony using them to join their forces and create a magical protection for our land, kept intact by the power of the statues, since a magic like that can't be kept without an object, as I was reminded by Elaralith. One thing I thank her for... we were still deciding what to do if we found someone inside the borders of the elven land, but I guess we won't have that problem anymore now.

The answer I got was that we could not build it or even buy land because the map was too small and they couldnt build everything people want them to build... but really... in my eyes, that island is big enough for many things yet.. of course they can't build anything people want, and I am not saying here that the community should be chosen just because I say so either. I am just saying that the only place I see being actively used in that whole island is the town of Trollsbane and eventually people make a trip to the desert or something... the rest of the island is wasted and deserted. They tell me to wait for the other map... what good is a huge map if we have barely 20 people online at a time and we already take some time to find any soul? What good is a huge map if the ones who roleplay in a good way keep working outside the game? Which example should the new players follow if there are only little good examples in town? They hear about all the great masters of this island all the time on the boards but did they even get a chance to meet them in character? I think not. So then accidentally they let an information they read on the boards escape in character because they are new and everybody turns their backs on them because of it? That is not the way I think it should be.

There is an interesting saying among the military people that I know since both my father and brother are in it that says: "Words make you move, but the example drags you." So to all those insulting others out of character, think twice. This is just a game to begin with, not a war. Look inside yourselves because you may just be doing the same thing as the ones you most despise, if not worse.

I suppose I took too much of your time already and I am sure I still have more to say but it doesn't come to my mind at this moment...

Thank you for those who took the time to read.
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Post by Moathia »

Don't go Kalypse, it would be a huge loss to the comunity, your one of the few people, who do RP properly here, somewhere in here you said somthing about bad role models for the newer people, if you go, it's one less good model. Don't go, we are just going through a rough patch right now.
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Post by Draakon »

Kalypse I only met you yesterday within the game wich is a shame, I liked you and I saw that you do roleplay with great passion. In my eyes you will be a loss even though I don't know you well at all, but I think if you stay there is still a possibility to make a difference. Gather all the elves who you see as your closest and establish a stronghold out in the forrest, no need for depots or anything else just make sure the people know the spot. Make it an RP haven withing the world of Illarion, nothing would be needed there but people who wish to role play elves in their right nature.

I do hope you reconcider because there are ways to make it better for oneself without any help from GMs or some foundation may it be whatever.

-Draakon Na' Kûrtak-
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Post by Kalypse »

Believe me Draakon, I have tried.. but it is not as easy as it seems... staying on the forests close to town doesnt work very well.. we cant really 'live' together... we can only do as I already do and make a campfire somewhere to talk and eventually if others are up to, make some sort of picnic or a dancing (which I dont really see for quite a while) and things like that... people will not work properly with each other if they have to walk half the map to reach a depot to get things, especially now that the tools break a lot and people need to get themselves more tools often. I try, but there are few elves in the community now and it is difficult to get them together at the same time... I even prepared a different kind of wedding for Kaly and Lan but for that to happen I would need the help of others to be there at the same time and that is always difficult... so then I changed it so Id need only two people, and one I found already... but really.. I really dont feel like making up a wedding ceremony in such a messy town.
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Post by Xerake »

I agree, Kalypse...I miss the old days, before the skill increase, before the account system. Problems, in my opinion, weren't even plentiful. There were the occasional rulebreakers, but it was quite obvious that days were more enjoyable back then.

It's ridiculous...half the time, the town, much less the island, is deserted because we have a maximum of about 17 come online each day...37 is probably the annual peak. We have PLENTY of room to build more strucutres...the furtherest I go out of town is the desert or shrine for Zelphia...that's about it. I'm tired of seeing the same old buildings, the same old thing, everytime I play. Orcs and dwarves getting along, both speaking intelligently...orcs should be to dwarves as cats are to dogs. Bloodthirsty, spell-casting male hobbits are running around, rather than the ones who only farm, stay out of adventure, and like to eat a lot. LOTR anyone?

Take Randelf for instance. He dislikes orcs, because he's a dwarf, and he's called...a racist! This is the middle ages, a fantasy land for the middle ages, for that matter. Movements against racism and all that uppity stuff didn't start for hundreds of more years to come; and this isn't real. "Racism" against other fantastic races wasn't ever mentioned, let alone known as offensive. I can understand this, if there were OOC talk offending other races, but it isn't; it's just a GAME. The word 'racism' wasn't even created until 1936! About 800 years too far into the future, no?

There's also more rulebreaking these days, from what I see...I haven't seen so much casting in town and random killing since I've started playing about a year and a half ago. Way too much fighting for a 'peaceful town.'

Also, I'm one of the few lizardmen that actually worship, or even know of the goddess Tanora (Or in our tongue, Zelphia). People have to choose a race wisely, deciding how they act; not just choosing one just so they can rush to the game and act differently from their kind.

REVIVAL OF PROPER ROLEPLAYING PLEEEEASE!
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Post by James »

yeh well said Kalypse maybe someone might actually listen to some words of wisdom for a change well done.
we should go back to the roots before all this account rubbish and skill things happend go back to the things that attracted me to this game.


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Post by Kringin »

Yes it is a ghost town...

One of the reasons I have temporarily left...

Wish you the best of luck and some day when I may return and hope to see you when i do.

Untill then ...
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Post by Mishrack »

I too understand ye fully, kalypse... The number of times I've been on for the past 4 months or so can be conuted on one hand...
But then again, as you said, it's the good example that will change the state of things, and not leaving.I can understand you may be disgusted by the way things are, but if we just move off, and don't do anything to change it to what it could be, it will crash and burn just like so many other games out there.

Time and again, it has been said that it was the people that made this game great. Not the graphics, nor mechanics but the nature of the people who played and interacted. If you leave, everyone else will leave too eventually, and then we will truly have betrayed that which we loved so much about this game... I beg you to reconsider.
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Post by Elaralith »

I agree with you Kalypse...I too do not see the map as being "too small" for more things...I mean not everyone has time to play this game for hours and hours...it does take a significant amount of time to travel the length of the current map...it is quite big in my opinion. A elven town a bit aways in the forest would be perfect...it could be temporary just as the dwarven town is until the "bigger map" comes out. More towns would also encourage better RP...I feel that if a dwarven town can fit in the current illarion map, an elven town certainly can too...as well as an orc cave, halfling haven, human city, among other things.

By the way, Kalypse, I really must urge you to not depart...I tried that path before and it accomplishes nothing. There will always be problems...but avoiding them won't solve them.
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Post by Cain Freemont »

Given the circumstances, I understand as to why you would consider leaving. This should be understandable to everyone. However, I would like to urge you not to leave, as you will be leaving behind friends, people whom hold you close. So many will miss you, but I do not blame you if you leave. It is, after all, just another game. Someone should not have to fret over things within the game so much as you do already.
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Post by Lasukie-Kai Elaski »

I think ALL of illarion needs a break.

I suggest a charwipe, a new staff recruiting cycle to add to the staff illairon has now, and a larger map, with more towns.

This downtime will let you all get a tan before summer is over ! hehe
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Post by Freo »

does anyone know why there are more rulebreakers now than before? If not let me explain it.... PEOPLE ARE BORED!!! I completly agree with kalsype, more towns would equal more roleplaying, and roleplaying is a fun thing to do. less rules would be broken and the game would be much more fun if one were to rp, but its not fun if we were to just stay in the same area all the time. The way most people see it, rather than be bored they would rather stir up trouble and make things exciting.
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Post by Peilten »

I have been staring at this thread for some time now, and I want to point out a few things to everyone.

Change is something we all want, perhaps something we all need. I myself have become bored with the lack of activity in the game, although that is not unusual for me. Every time I loged on I would do the exact same thing: I'd grab 2 shovels, walk over to the "mining area", and dig. If I was lucky, I'd catch bits and pieces of conversations, although it was rarely anything that got my attention. Trust me, around 2 months ago, I was hoping for some change, any change.

That's about when the building west of the workshop was built. Perhaps i was expecting too much, but I was very excited about it. Around the same time came the new interface, more rules to enhance the realism (more than the shovel and axe were breakable), and a few new items. So, for an hour or more, I had a look around the building, crafted and collected the new items, and got used to the new rules. You know what I did next? I grabbed 2 shovels, walked to the "mining area", and began to dig.

So, what's my point? The main problem in the game is not the number of buildings, or restrictions on play, or even those cute little items you can find or make; the problem is us.

So many of us are caught up in building things, exploring the buildings and the island, and becoming fed up with the new rules that we dont bother to talk with many people. We're either too busy or we're "not in the mood" (Which is synonymous with boredom, and can be cured with some idle chatting. I'm not saying there arent people out there like Kalypse, Cain, or Mish who actually try to make things more interesting, and I'm sure many of us have done something small to make this game a little more fun, for ourselves at least.

However, I can't let you three of the hook this easily. I apologige for having to make an example of you, and also to whomever posted this next point for not giving you credit for it. I agree that things may be difficult, but leaving this will solve absolutely nothing. I left for a month myself, and has there been any change? No. If the best of our roleplayers leave here, what will the rest of us be left with? Granted, this is similar to begging gods to stay and help us do what we should be doing anyway, but it's worth a shot. If you all stay, and if those other "elite" roleplayers come back for some time, then maybe we'll have at least a descent time playing (better than half my spelling and grammar, I hope).

One other thing, as interesting as dividing up the community may seem at the moment, perhaps it would be better to wait until we have 40 or 50 people on at a time, on average at least.
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Post by Roke »

And... If the best role-players leave, then average role-players, like myself will become even more bored and also leave. There could be a rippling effect.
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Post by Sir Gannon »

I Second that Roke im a so so rolepayer. If the good people leave what will we have left? A mediocer game thats only a LITTLE different than Tibia... I DONT WANT THAT TO HAPPEN! I Feel for you Kalypse i really do. Many times i have considered quiting and almost did. But to my suprise i always find myself coming back because i miss the people, and the roleplay. All you can do Kalypse is keep going. You have always been my friend and i want you to stay. I dont care if i have to come and picnic and dance with you! (Which i love to do by the way) If you will let me that is since im a human Hahaha. But seriously DONT LEAVE!! That would leave all the serious people like Dyluck! *Grins* So in a final note DO NOT LEAVE! ^_^
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Post by Kalypse »

As much as I care about this game, and my friends... I dont wish to keep on having headaches and boiling my blood because of whats impossible. Do I try to stay? Yes, I do. Things do not seem to get better though and only now I got enough attention because Im tired of this and so are other people. Have I reconsidered and stayed? Many times... So here I am once again in my dilema, and guess what? Perhaps my presence made some difference for a person or two, but I myself feel no difference.. I still have the same friends and we do the same things. There is the same old chaos, the same old temporary peace, the same old demon hunt. This thread I made was just to relieve my heart from my frustrations, but I still intend to give one last shot, but that's it. I am currently working on developing some ideas. I need to get a few things done first.

I know that all the other players have their own lives and all, and they play this game because they enjoy it and as a time to relax... well so do I.. but I am not having fun anymore. I am an architecture student and believe me, I have enough headache at school and I do not have time to create a revolution on a game by myself.. especially not when people and things do not want to be changed. I don't have the calm life kaly has and I don't have all the patience Kaly has all the time... I have my limits too.

Peilten, Im sorry if I sounded like I wanted to change the game... I just think a few things could help, but in the end it is all up to the players and Im trying now this one last thing because I cannot do this alone and I need support.. and the more players willing to do so the better we can make this work.
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Post by martin »

I am quite in a hurry, so I'd really appreciate a very, very, very short summary of the proposals posted here. I don't have the time nor the nerves to read through that amount of sentences.

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Post by Roke »

Well I won't try to summarize what Kalypse is saying, but Peilten is saying that there is a lack of activity in the game, except for the occasional demon attack and is becoming somewhat boring. Gannon and I voiced our concerns about what would happen if all or most of the good role-playes left the game, then the average ones (like me) would leave because of more boredom.

I hope this is a short enough and good enough summary Martin.
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Post by martin »

Yes, thank you.
Are there any suggestions to correct this in one way or the other?

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Post by Adano Eles »

There is something about another town...
A place for elves (maybe not a town but a small open spot with statues etc.)...
Sean suggests a char wipe...
Peilten suggests the players to search the problems among themselves...
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Post by Draakon »

Martin it was suggested that more towns be made for the different races, right now we have orcs and lizards that speak like commoners and alot of other strange things going on in our one town. Perhaps if the different races were able to have a place of their own interacting with other races would be more interresting and exciting encouraging more roleplay.

Now for Kalypse :) I see myself as an average roleplayer, I am pretty new to this but I really like it and I think I do play my character well those who know him somewhat may agree but unfortunatley many do not. It is really hard to find people who take an interrest in roleplaying for any longer time. Also I know when I am able to play many are not online since I work alot getting in at the right hours when alot of people are online is hard. I too get bored with the lack of RP wich is the only reason I play the game, only time I actually go fight or cut some wood is while waiting for someone to log in so that I can talk and hopefully roleplay abit.
Again and again I more or less try to force people to talk and RP, somtimes it goes really well and people do seem to enjoy it more than digging and such. Having fun with old friends is alot easier than getting new ones but if you keep adding to your "list of friends" the fun can become even greater. I suggest you try to gather all you know and hit Trollsbane with a huge wave of roleplaying, lets try to make up something interresting perhaps embark on a wide crusade across the lands with many people. Get to know eachother better and adventure with all that our imagination can possibly come up with.
Roleplaying is much like the skills within the game, it takes alot of practise to get good at it, while some may have more or less talent there is always something to be learnt from another and you can always enchance the experience for yourself and those around you.
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Post by Caranthir the great »

There is a certain thing that make people so dependant on Troll's bane.

Eliza - She is required to bring 'fresh money' to the markets, I can't think no other way. Surely she is not 'neccecary' in character to character trade, but she is key source of money as long as breakable items come in.

I agree that there is room for new things even on this map, however, I think that each race should not be given a new town, they should pay. Perhaps a building with a vendor such as Eliza could be free, but otherwise it should be player-paid.
You see me babbling much about Eliza, why am I doing that?
Well, in order to gain a community not so heavily tied on Trolls bane, each town would need a low-price buying vendor of its own.
This would not affect player to player trade any more than it does already in my opinion, but caravans between settlements could still be organized.

Few things I propose..

Re-location of Silverbrand, I have no clue of Tialdin's opinion, and if I remember correctly there are technical restrictions in putting new mine-entrances. However it is now too close to the Town to get any actual meaning of its own. Why people would be down there, if they just have to go ladder up and they would be with their non-dwarf friends?
However, as a temporary solution (or lasting solution, whatever) it could be attached to the ceremony cave, but in my opinion it NEEDS to be relocated.

Also, Removal of the miningfields close to trollsbane.
Why? Because they simply are *too* close, its no point in standing in closest depot from where you can spit on the miningarea..
This would also give a point in mining underground if the other option would be to walk couple screens to get on the surface miningarea.
This would also prevent 'Encumbered-two steps-unload-repeat' Mining.

-Caranthir

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Kalypse, you should know my opinion about you possible departure.
However, if my opinion has for some reason remained unclear to you..
Don't go! :wink:
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Post by Kalypse »

Martin, the suggestiong over the conversation where those Adano listed. However, I do not believe that you can just simply throw another town in the island as if it was a meteor. If anything is supposed to be done, then it should be done given the necessary thought on it and done well. Another thing I think... I doubt that making all these changes at once is healthy. I think we should start with something small and grow. People are talking now about a city for each race. I don't think that is the case right now though, since the actual active races I find in the game are humans, halflings, some dwarves and elves. The other races, unfortunately, have no real impact on the city right now, so maybe if that is to happen, which I honestly doubt considering things I heard that doesn't apply here, those less numbered races should be kept as a second fase in my opinion. If things are made too radically the players will not be able to follow.. not to mention that constant changes are always more exciting than just one big thing that you will eventually be bored of.

I ask the players to please stop waiting for a gift of heavens and do something about it themselves. Pick a friend you are fond of ooc, make up a story you think is interesting, find people to play along with you... don't wait for graphics... we already have an idea of the world around us, which is more than we have on a text based roleplay... and really... I tried one a few days and believe it r not, I had more fun playing it for a few hours than I have had in Illarion in a couple of months. Of course we had a master but that's not the point... be your own masters... I am only an average roleplayer as people say.. I have troubles making up my own stories, especially because I don't have much time to do that, but I will play along with any story compatible to my character. My head is now turned to the Elven Community when it concerns to this game.

By the way, to all those asking me to stay... you should all thank Lanthromire's player because if it wasn't for him I wouldn't even know I was needed again here, because I was sure I would not be back once. I'm trying to stay, but if I do leave now I will probably not be back again.
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Post by Xerake »

That's true, we should work for a town rather than wait for it to fall from the sky.

Honestly, something needs to be done with us lizardpeople...we don't have our own weapon, or own town, sheesh, we don't even have our own female graphic (which is probably the easiest graphic to make compared to all the other races). However, we are the minority race...most of the lizardpeople are great fighters, but we're as poor as dirt, and we could never afford to have Serpardum or another GM build our town.
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Post by martin »

@Female Lizard"men":

http://edition.cnn.com/EARTH/9603/komodo_dragons/

Do you think that Illarion-player can do what scientists who do nothing else can't? ;)

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wow never knew that :shock:
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Somebody posted a short while ago, that a large story should be implemented, perhaps a crusade, they said. The idea of a crusade got me to thinking. Why do all events involving townsfolk have to be violent. Why must an activity always be focused on lich's, or evil orcs, hmm?

If you will take note that the only non-violent events are mostly player made, then perhaps more players should involve themselves with the active GMs? I was thinking that, for perhaps a month at a time, each GM has a player under them, working with them. This would involve the player submitting idea's to them, story based idea's of course. It would be far more effective than the scattered posts which lie everywhere.

Now, my own idea for a story to involve everybody. A religious crusade. Perhaps, it could involve some characters, highly religious, but perhaps unstable, imprisoning people as in non-believers of a certain God (please not Moshran) and torturing them. Such a thing could be akin to the Inquisitions, and perhaps would result in a religious revolution.


Oh, and Kalypse.
Please don't leave.

That goes for all of the great Rpers trying to leave too, without you, average RolePlayers would just be left on an island with some less than sterling Role Players for company.
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Post by Crocket »

martin wrote:.....
Are there any suggestions to correct this in one way or the other?
......
1. Have quests (which has been discussed before)
2. More towns (which I believe has been discussed before)
3. Much larger map
4. Larger variety of monsters

@everyone who is bored
Talk to people in the game. Roleplay some.
Don't just log on, mine some, tailor some and ignore everyone around you. Remember a lot of this has been discussed before and is being worked on.

And please try to condense the posts. Most of us lead busy lives and don't have time to log on to a message board and find a novel.
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Post by Caranthir the great »

4. Larger variety of monsters
I think we really dont need this..
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Post by Kalypse »

Crocket, in a 'condensed' form: I did not start this thread as a proposal, otherwise I would have put it in the proposal board. Second, I started this as my personal heart relief so my friends could completely understand why Im leaving if I do. If you don't know me or want to, there is no real reason for you to be reading this post.

I appologise to all that know me and are used to hearing from me in a mannered and patient way, but sometimes things only seem to work by pressure.

I have noticed a few twisting my words on this thread, so now I ask all to stop making this a proposal thread for the game itself and start wondering what we, the players, can do about it. If you have a story and would like opinions to develop or something like that I will be more than happy to help, since right now I dont have time to make my own or even play much. I will try to be here whenever I can though.
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