Illarion and Windows Vista
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Illarion and Windows Vista
The Illarion Client uses openGL for graphics support. Same for the map editor.
Microsoft has discontinued support for the free openGL in Windows Vista. The graphics drivers developed by Microsoft and included with Windows Vista do not support openGL at all or they try to emulate it using DirectX. All openGL applications, including Illarion, will not run on Vista or will be much slower than on XP.
If you want to run Illarion on Windows Vista you need better graphics drivers from the manufacturer of your graphics card that restore decent support for openGL. I'd recommend not running Vista until there is support for most open standards.
Microsoft has discontinued support for the free openGL in Windows Vista. The graphics drivers developed by Microsoft and included with Windows Vista do not support openGL at all or they try to emulate it using DirectX. All openGL applications, including Illarion, will not run on Vista or will be much slower than on XP.
If you want to run Illarion on Windows Vista you need better graphics drivers from the manufacturer of your graphics card that restore decent support for openGL. I'd recommend not running Vista until there is support for most open standards.
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If noone minds me posting, otherwise just delete this or what ever:
If you still have the install disk to xp or such, you could try using MS Virtual pc, it's now free, and the currently still-in-beta 2007 version is said to work on Vista too.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx
I have tried it with windows 95, though my lack of a windows 95 installation disk kinda held me back, but it did start the whole basic stuff, to the part where I needed a win95 installation disk.
I *think* it should work.
If you still have the install disk to xp or such, you could try using MS Virtual pc, it's now free, and the currently still-in-beta 2007 version is said to work on Vista too.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx
I have tried it with windows 95, though my lack of a windows 95 installation disk kinda held me back, but it did start the whole basic stuff, to the part where I needed a win95 installation disk.
I *think* it should work.
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Ersten Post here lesen: Wenn der Hersteller Deiner Grafikkarte vernünftige Treiber mit openGL liefert, dann klappt es. Die von Micro$oft haben keine echte openGL Unterstützung, da ist es reine Glückssache.
Außerdem schaltet Vista bei Verwendung von echter openGL Unterstützung seine tollen neuen Grafikeffekte auf dem Desktop ab, was auch immer die sein mögen.
Außerdem schaltet Vista bei Verwendung von echter openGL Unterstützung seine tollen neuen Grafikeffekte auf dem Desktop ab, was auch immer die sein mögen.
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Graphic card = the thing with the metal and plastic wires attached to the rest of your pc/laptop inside of it, the physical THING that processes the operations necessary to display graphics
graphic drivers = SOFTWARE, stuff you can easily download (if available) and install to better the performance of your graphic card (and perhaps even be able to run Illarion again)
Find out who manufactured your graphic card, and the type of it, then visit the manufacturers website and check for the latest drivers (software) for your type of graphiccard.
You can find out which graphic card you have by typing "dxdiag" in the "run" command line in the start menu.
If you got that, google should help you to find a website to get the drivers from.
graphic drivers = SOFTWARE, stuff you can easily download (if available) and install to better the performance of your graphic card (and perhaps even be able to run Illarion again)
Find out who manufactured your graphic card, and the type of it, then visit the manufacturers website and check for the latest drivers (software) for your type of graphiccard.
You can find out which graphic card you have by typing "dxdiag" in the "run" command line in the start menu.
If you got that, google should help you to find a website to get the drivers from.
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Re: Illarion and Windows Vista
Soweit ich weiß unterstützt Windows 7 - genau wie Vista - "von Haus aus" kein Open GL.
Microsoft verhält sich da zwar uneinsichtig, aber konsequent.
Es kann jedoch weiterhin per Treiberupdate "nachgerüstet" werden, sofern der Grafikkarten-Hersteller dies anbietet.
Microsoft verhält sich da zwar uneinsichtig, aber konsequent.
Es kann jedoch weiterhin per Treiberupdate "nachgerüstet" werden, sofern der Grafikkarten-Hersteller dies anbietet.
Re:
Also ich hatte zumindestens mit meinem neuen Laptop (Win7) keine Probleme Illa zu zocken.....Du Sundavar Freohr wrote:Hallo Leute,
Ich habe grade mit einem "Fachmann" gesprochen.
Er sagt, das neue Windoof7 solle OpenGL unterstützen.
Weiss jemand ob das stimmt ?
Re: Illarion and Windows Vista
hallo kann mir hier jemand helfen bin neu und kann das spiel nicht starten bin eingelogt und charakter ist auch fertig sobald ich auf spiel starten klicke kommt datei wirlich runterladen da steht dann speichern u verwerfen aber es passiert nix selbst wenn ich auf öffnen gehe. lg
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Re: Illarion and Windows Vista
Welcome, can you post the error log file from your documents Illarion folder? Also, make sure your java is up to date and firewall not blocking java until someone else comes along that can help?Elfe wrote:hallo kann mir hier jemand helfen bin neu und kann das spiel nicht starten bin eingelogt und charakter ist auch fertig sobald ich auf spiel starten klicke kommt datei wirlich runterladen da steht dann speichern u verwerfen aber es passiert nix selbst wenn ich auf öffnen gehe. lg
Re: Illarion and Windows Vista
Hallo Elfe!
Wie Achae ja schon gefragt hast kannst du etwas genauer werden?
Ich kann dir da selber gerade nicht ganz folgen. Hast du die Datei auch schon versucht zu speichern und/oder gleich so zu öffnen?
Ist Java auf deinem Rechner installiert?
Grüße
Skamato
Wie Achae ja schon gefragt hast kannst du etwas genauer werden?
Ich kann dir da selber gerade nicht ganz folgen. Hast du die Datei auch schon versucht zu speichern und/oder gleich so zu öffnen?
Ist Java auf deinem Rechner installiert?
Grüße
Skamato
Re: Illarion and Windows Vista
Not 100% sure this belongs here but after a good search i cant really find a suitable thread to put it in.
The trouble im having is, the game freezes on me after a few min' and then i get the message "application error
unable to launch application" and it crashes on me.
this is the error message,
Illarion Client V1.21 started Mon Aug 06 21:23:42 NZST 2012
LWJGL: 6.0.6001.18000
VM: 1.6.0_33
OS: Windows Vista 6.0 x86
java.net.SocketException: Connection reset by peer: socket write error
at java.net.SocketOutputStream.socketWrite0(Native Method)
at java.net.SocketOutputStream.socketWrite(Unknown Source)
at java.net.SocketOutputStream.write(Unknown Source)
at illarion.client.net.Sender.run(Sender.java:151)
java.lang.IllegalStateException: From thread Thread[Illarion output thread,5,javawsApplicationThreadGroup]: Thread[javawsApplicationMain,5,javawsApplicationThreadGroup] already has the context current
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Context.checkAccess(Context.java:172)
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Context.forceDestroy(Context.java:228)
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.destroyContext(Display.java:946)
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.destroy(Display.java:929)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.exitGraphics(IllaClient.java:281)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.errorExit(IllaClient.java:419)
at illarion.client.net.Sender.run(Sender.java:161)
Exception in thread "Illarion output thread" java.lang.NullPointerException
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.destroyContext(Display.java:946)
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.destroy(Display.java:929)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.exitGraphics(IllaClient.java:281)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.errorExit(IllaClient.java:419)
at illarion.client.net.Sender.run(Sender.java:176)
java.lang.IllegalStateException: Mouse must be created before you can read events
at org.lwjgl.input.Mouse.next(Mouse.java:409)
at illarion.client.gui.MouseHandler.handle(MouseHandler.java:104)
at illarion.client.gui.InputManager.handle(InputManager.java:276)
at illarion.client.gui.Gui.handleInput(Gui.java:201)
at illarion.client.world.Game.gameLoop(Game.java:234)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.<init>(IllaClient.java:164)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.main(IllaClient.java:612)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.executeApplication(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.executeMainClass(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.doLaunchApp(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.run(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
#### Java Web Start Error:
#### null
Im a dinosaur from another era so not very computer smart ,
can anyone help,and tell me whats going on.
Up untill a few hours ago every thing worked just perfect,nothing has changed my end and have completed all other
recomended check list fixes.
Thank you.
The trouble im having is, the game freezes on me after a few min' and then i get the message "application error
unable to launch application" and it crashes on me.
this is the error message,
Illarion Client V1.21 started Mon Aug 06 21:23:42 NZST 2012
LWJGL: 6.0.6001.18000
VM: 1.6.0_33
OS: Windows Vista 6.0 x86
java.net.SocketException: Connection reset by peer: socket write error
at java.net.SocketOutputStream.socketWrite0(Native Method)
at java.net.SocketOutputStream.socketWrite(Unknown Source)
at java.net.SocketOutputStream.write(Unknown Source)
at illarion.client.net.Sender.run(Sender.java:151)
java.lang.IllegalStateException: From thread Thread[Illarion output thread,5,javawsApplicationThreadGroup]: Thread[javawsApplicationMain,5,javawsApplicationThreadGroup] already has the context current
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Context.checkAccess(Context.java:172)
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Context.forceDestroy(Context.java:228)
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.destroyContext(Display.java:946)
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.destroy(Display.java:929)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.exitGraphics(IllaClient.java:281)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.errorExit(IllaClient.java:419)
at illarion.client.net.Sender.run(Sender.java:161)
Exception in thread "Illarion output thread" java.lang.NullPointerException
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.destroyContext(Display.java:946)
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.destroy(Display.java:929)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.exitGraphics(IllaClient.java:281)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.errorExit(IllaClient.java:419)
at illarion.client.net.Sender.run(Sender.java:176)
java.lang.IllegalStateException: Mouse must be created before you can read events
at org.lwjgl.input.Mouse.next(Mouse.java:409)
at illarion.client.gui.MouseHandler.handle(MouseHandler.java:104)
at illarion.client.gui.InputManager.handle(InputManager.java:276)
at illarion.client.gui.Gui.handleInput(Gui.java:201)
at illarion.client.world.Game.gameLoop(Game.java:234)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.<init>(IllaClient.java:164)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.main(IllaClient.java:612)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.executeApplication(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.executeMainClass(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.doLaunchApp(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.run(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
#### Java Web Start Error:
#### null
Im a dinosaur from another era so not very computer smart ,
can anyone help,and tell me whats going on.
Up untill a few hours ago every thing worked just perfect,nothing has changed my end and have completed all other
recomended check list fixes.
Thank you.
Re: Illarion and Windows Vista
Something is wrong with your internet connection.
Did you change/install a new firewall, antivirus application? Did you unplug your networking cable? Did you update Java?
Nitram
Did you change/install a new firewall, antivirus application? Did you unplug your networking cable? Did you update Java?
Nitram
Re: Illarion and Windows Vista
Unfortunately no,or i would have had a culprit,i was running java 7 for the past 3 week with no troubles.
But after the crashes started i uninstalled it and installed the supported java 6 but the problem remains the same.
Seems the character is able to stand around and chat,but as soon as i move around too much it occurs.
here is the latest error report.
Illarion Client V1.21 started Mon Aug 06 21:57:32 NZST 2012
LWJGL: 6.0.6001.18000
VM: 1.6.0_33
OS: Windows Vista 6.0 x86
java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: reading beyond receive buffer
at illarion.client.net.Receiver.readByte(Receiver.java:296)
at illarion.client.net.Receiver.readUByte(Receiver.java:311)
at illarion.client.net.Receiver.run(Receiver.java:140)
Exception in thread "Illarion input thread" java.lang.IllegalStateException: From thread Thread[Illarion input thread,5,javawsApplicationThreadGroup]: Thread[javawsApplicationMain,5,javawsApplicationThreadGroup] already has the context current
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Context.checkAccess(Context.java:172)
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Context.forceDestroy(Context.java:228)
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.destroyContext(Display.java:946)
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.destroy(Display.java:929)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.exitGraphics(IllaClient.java:281)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.errorExit(IllaClient.java:419)
at illarion.client.net.Receiver.run(Receiver.java:208)
java.lang.IllegalStateException: Mouse must be created before you can read events
at org.lwjgl.input.Mouse.next(Mouse.java:409)
at illarion.client.gui.MouseHandler.handle(MouseHandler.java:104)
at illarion.client.gui.InputManager.handle(InputManager.java:276)
at illarion.client.gui.Gui.handleInput(Gui.java:201)
at illarion.client.world.Game.gameLoop(Game.java:234)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.<init>(IllaClient.java:164)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.main(IllaClient.java:612)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.executeApplication(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.executeMainClass(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.doLaunchApp(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.run(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
#### Java Web Start Error:
#### null
Will check out all internet connection possibilities.
Thanks for the fast reply Nitram.
Draugafex.
But after the crashes started i uninstalled it and installed the supported java 6 but the problem remains the same.
Seems the character is able to stand around and chat,but as soon as i move around too much it occurs.
here is the latest error report.
Illarion Client V1.21 started Mon Aug 06 21:57:32 NZST 2012
LWJGL: 6.0.6001.18000
VM: 1.6.0_33
OS: Windows Vista 6.0 x86
java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: reading beyond receive buffer
at illarion.client.net.Receiver.readByte(Receiver.java:296)
at illarion.client.net.Receiver.readUByte(Receiver.java:311)
at illarion.client.net.Receiver.run(Receiver.java:140)
Exception in thread "Illarion input thread" java.lang.IllegalStateException: From thread Thread[Illarion input thread,5,javawsApplicationThreadGroup]: Thread[javawsApplicationMain,5,javawsApplicationThreadGroup] already has the context current
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Context.checkAccess(Context.java:172)
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Context.forceDestroy(Context.java:228)
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.destroyContext(Display.java:946)
at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.destroy(Display.java:929)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.exitGraphics(IllaClient.java:281)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.errorExit(IllaClient.java:419)
at illarion.client.net.Receiver.run(Receiver.java:208)
java.lang.IllegalStateException: Mouse must be created before you can read events
at org.lwjgl.input.Mouse.next(Mouse.java:409)
at illarion.client.gui.MouseHandler.handle(MouseHandler.java:104)
at illarion.client.gui.InputManager.handle(InputManager.java:276)
at illarion.client.gui.Gui.handleInput(Gui.java:201)
at illarion.client.world.Game.gameLoop(Game.java:234)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.<init>(IllaClient.java:164)
at illarion.client.IllaClient.main(IllaClient.java:612)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.executeApplication(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.executeMainClass(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.doLaunchApp(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.run(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
#### Java Web Start Error:
#### null
Will check out all internet connection possibilities.
Thanks for the fast reply Nitram.
Draugafex.