You can brew it yourself, it is pretty easy to figure out - either do some trial and error (<1 day) or get some ingame knowledge (<1 hour). The tool to be used is a very druidish tool that had no use before.Avalyon el'Hattarr wrote:So where can one find the druid potion? or at least can we know what tools we need for alchemy to work?
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In that case, you not only have magic runes but have practised magic. Your skills are at least above 40 points summary. This is quite more than only just test what these unknown runes stand for. We can discuss, if this border of 40 points is better or worse than any other borderline, but at the moment you can't enter the druid system.
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I dont really care about, but by five magic skills 40 is reachable very quick.
A other thing, i think it is suboptimal that druids need ancient. Together with the fact that mages also need ancient this language would be soon so common that there is no reason for it. I know that it isnt possible to implant new languages (or at least atm). But imho it would make more sense to give the druieds one of the nearly not used race language like goblin-language and give the goblins e.g. orc. We have much more mages as goblins . If all mages and all druids speak ancient i personal see serious no sence in these language. Aside of a more or less useless skill.
A other thing, i think it is suboptimal that druids need ancient. Together with the fact that mages also need ancient this language would be soon so common that there is no reason for it. I know that it isnt possible to implant new languages (or at least atm). But imho it would make more sense to give the druieds one of the nearly not used race language like goblin-language and give the goblins e.g. orc. We have much more mages as goblins . If all mages and all druids speak ancient i personal see serious no sence in these language. Aside of a more or less useless skill.
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If the gm tell me, 40pts are to low, I will change that of course.Djironnyma wrote:I dont really care about, but by five magic skills 40 is reachable very quick.
A other thing, i think it is suboptimal that druids need ancient. Together with the fact that mages also need ancient this language would be soon so common that there is no reason for it. I know that it isnt possible to implant new languages (or at least atm). But imho it would make more sense to give the druieds one of the nearly not used race language like goblin-language and give the goblins e.g. orc. We have much more mages as goblins . If all mages and all druids speak ancient i personal see serious no sence in these language. Aside of a more or less useless skill.
I had to recognize during the last 48 hours ancient is far more common than I expected. I am going to change that, I fully agree with you ancient should not become a common language.
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Well, during the last days I had to accept that there are completely different points of view about the distribution of druid characters which both are right and serious and completely incompatible to each other.
So I was unable to find a silver bullet I left my point of view to open the gates for everybody and made a concession to those who fear a negative exodus to druidism. The only thing that could work, beside a teacher-system as we have with magic and that has its critics too, it seems to me that the intensity of using magic in the past could be a practicable hurdle.
For me it sounds well to take a summery of all magic skills and say: the one who practises magic spells a lot, the one who has reached a certain level of magery has to stay mage.
If this level is to low, we can rise it, but I would prefer to wait how much druids we will have with this level. If we feel the system can cope with more druids, we can rise it, if we see, there are far to much druids on the scene and they trammel each other, we can lower that border.
I honestly apologize that to and from and stand a beer in the tavern to those you feel mucked around by this.
So I was unable to find a silver bullet I left my point of view to open the gates for everybody and made a concession to those who fear a negative exodus to druidism. The only thing that could work, beside a teacher-system as we have with magic and that has its critics too, it seems to me that the intensity of using magic in the past could be a practicable hurdle.
For me it sounds well to take a summery of all magic skills and say: the one who practises magic spells a lot, the one who has reached a certain level of magery has to stay mage.
If this level is to low, we can rise it, but I would prefer to wait how much druids we will have with this level. If we feel the system can cope with more druids, we can rise it, if we see, there are far to much druids on the scene and they trammel each other, we can lower that border.
I honestly apologize that to and from and stand a beer in the tavern to those you feel mucked around by this.
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Ich finds ziemlich schade - dass die Diskussionen nun wieder ins Englische umgeschlagen haben. Naja - scheint dann wohl auch nicht so wichtig zu sein. Ich hoffe nur, dass das vorherrige Gerede um das Druidensystem, den "Machern" nicht jetzt schon die Motivation nimmt. Vielleicht sollten wir einfach abwarten und es probieren, was in vielen vielen Stunden und in Kleinarbeit versucht wurde, auf die Beine zu stellen. Letztendlich wird es an jedem selber liegen, was er daraus macht und ohne Fleiß und Ergeiz, wird wohl keiner das Druidensystem in all seinen Möglichkeiten nutzen können.
Ich bedank mich jedenfalls schon mal im Voraus.
Ich bedank mich jedenfalls schon mal im Voraus.
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Ja, finde ich auch. Das Problem ist aber, dass sich ja immer wieder englischsprachige Spieler benachteiligt fühlen, wenn etwas nur auf Deutsch am Brett steht, was sie eventuell betreffen könnte. Und immer zweisprachig zu schreiben ist einfach (zu) aufwendig.Anfala Atani wrote:Ich finds ziemlich schade - dass die Diskussionen nun wieder ins Englische umgeschlagen haben.
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A strange thing happened to me when I more or less accidentally drunk the Drud potion the second time. The character suddenly received all mage skills, none of which he ever had posessed before, and the "druid" under the alchemy skill turned blue. After relogging he was back the way he used to be before drinkin the potion the first time: no mage skill, no "druid" at all. I mixed it up again and was able to restore the yellow "druid" skill. No idea what happened there, but I thought I better tell it here.
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BEIDE Sprachen spielen hier - also denkt mal darüber nach. Gerade ihr beide die schon lange hier spielt -Magdha Tiefenerz wrote:Ja, finde ich auch. Das Problem ist aber, dass sich ja immer wieder englischsprachige Spieler benachteiligt fühlen, wenn etwas nur auf Deutsch am Brett steht, was sie eventuell betreffen könnte. Und immer zweisprachig zu schreiben ist einfach (zu) aufwendig.Anfala Atani wrote:Ich finds ziemlich schade - dass die Diskussionen nun wieder ins Englische umgeschlagen haben.
Post nur englisch- die Deutschen maulen - nur deutsch - die englischsprachigen Spieler motzen - beide jeweils zu recht wenn es das komplette System betrifft.
Besonders so eine wichtige Diskussion wie ein neues System für Druiden muß einfach zweisprachig geführt werden.
Man kann sich das ja übersetzen lassen wenn man es wissen will.
Sorry aber den Kommentar mußte ich einfach loswerden - denn Illarion ist eine SPIELERGEMEINSCHAFT
And no - no translation for english speakers - its *intern*
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Can we please have exploding characters if the druid potion is consumed a second time? Please?
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Wie Du vielleicht bemerkt hast, war die Überschrift zu diesem Faden "Zum Druidensystem". Dies ist in meinen Augen noch immer reines Deutsch. D.h. in einem solchen Beitrag würde ich eigentlich auch nur Deutsch erwarten.
Natürlich sollte eine Diskussion über das Druidensystem zweisprachig geführt werden, aber dann vielleicht in einem anderen Faden?
Und zum Thema Übersetzen sage ich nur, dass ich einmal den Fehler gemacht habe, eine englische Übersetzung von einem wirklich umfangreichen Beitrag anzukündigen. Junge junge habe ich mir etwas anhören können, weil ich das nicht innerhalb eines Tages ins Forum geschrieben habe. Sorry, aber seit dieser Zeit habe ich keine Lust mehr Übersetzungen zu machen, nur um es allen recht zu machen.
@Na-Chaya
Wie Du vielleicht bemerkt hast, war die Überschrift zu diesem Faden "Zum Druidensystem". Dies ist in meinen Augen noch immer reines Deutsch. D.h. in einem solchen Beitrag würde ich eigentlich auch nur Deutsch erwarten.
Natürlich sollte eine Diskussion über das Druidensystem zweisprachig geführt werden, aber dann vielleicht in einem anderen Faden?
Und zum Thema Übersetzen sage ich nur, dass ich einmal den Fehler gemacht habe, eine englische Übersetzung von einem wirklich umfangreichen Beitrag anzukündigen. Junge junge habe ich mir etwas anhören können, weil ich das nicht innerhalb eines Tages ins Forum geschrieben habe. Sorry, aber seit dieser Zeit habe ich keine Lust mehr Übersetzungen zu machen, nur um es allen recht zu machen.
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Ok fellows, this really ugly thing comes from the anouncement someone posted, you could use the druid drink as a weapon to "poison" mages. For the starting point was already very near I scripted a short "security rope" for the mages. This will be changed into a more understanable form. Meanwhile you simply have to drink two druid drinks. After the first one you receive that "druid" skill on 100 percent but do not receive druid runes or druid status and do not lose any magican abilities. If you drink it the second time you will enter druidism, lose your mage abilities and the "druid" skill will dissappear. As Nitram noted this was a very ugly slope idea and a solution born from the moment just to prevent some kiddies doing flapdoodle.
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