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Hello Niniane remember me? Well i see your attacking other people now, at least i don't feel like i'm by myself anymore. I'm sure most of you are wondering why i'm writting this long after i destroyed my chars life. Theres one reason. Niniane. Most of you like her. But don't make her mad or she'll turn her back on you. Elaralith is a prime example. Let me explain a little bit. Elaralith lived as a priestess. She's a good friend of mine too. I come back looking at the boards and she's apologizing. She told me of her roleplay and i don't see nothing wrong with it. Because this game isn't to live an everyday life just like life should be. This game is full of adventure. I mean Game Masters, they made this game for enjoyment, living an everday life isn't enjoyment, living an adventure is. I as Darkend Blade had a Blood lust, therefore he was more violent then usual, but Niniane Comes out and says i'm a bad roleplayer because i like to make adventures for my character? Isn't that defeating the purpose of a game? Elaralith wanted the same thing when she made her rp. And now niniane is against her as well. Niniane has ran off most of my chars, as everyone knows. Elaralith wanted to have an adventure but Niniane jumps all over her case, so Elaralith being afaid she'd lose her friends goes back to being normal again, because Niniane wants to control this game and tell everybody who's a good roleplayer and a bad one. But truthfully does that sound like good roleplaying? I've been playing this game alot longer then she has. Since the number 8339 was new. I'm not saying Ahhhh Niniane is a beast run for you lives. But i just hope Niniane see's what she is doing and will stop so we can all live in peace. Niniane, i'm not the only person that see's this. There's alot more people that does, i'm not naming any names because i don't want you digging their graves either. I quit Darkend Blade because you made him out to be a bad roleplayer and dug his name in the dirt. I warned a hobbit that was pushing me away from the depot as an orc with blood lust to stop or i was going to kill him, he did it again so i killed him, then i was punished 20 times, i'm not saying it was from you, but it was from an archer and mage.
I have said nothing but facts, oh and if your about to say something about Durik, i played a rp that was given to me by a gm. So i played it very well i think. He was insane and was punished for it. I made that choice or i wouldn't of called the gm. Secondly, Marduk Kurious meets a friend named Elaralith, She shows him what true friendship is, he becomes good. You only think of the bad things he did, when he was a bad guy, so all of the sudden, doom hath come and all should be afraid. I can understand how you get that, but did he hurt anyone else since he came back? Nope. Did Belrog kill anyone without warning? Nope. Did Durik, yep and he faced punishment for it. I may not be the best roleplayer in the world, but Niniane that isn't for you to decide. You didn't make this game, they did. But i do roleplay, i've been doing it for years since i was a child. Niniane all i ask is you be a little more friendlier before you lose all the friends you have. And word of advice, when people turn bad, the thing they need most is a friend. Not an enemy because that makes things ALOT worse. Thats exactly what happend between me and you. I went bad and you wanted to rub it in my face. If i held a grudge against you, i would of been trying to get you deleted, but i already put thats not my intention. This game isn't just for you Niniane. Its for everyone that plays. Well.... i hope you all didn't fall asleep reading this... See ya!
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Post by Darkend Blade »

oh and if you need proof about her, http://www.illarion.org/community/forum ... 8&start=10

first message there will explain her trying to control people.
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Post by Korwin »

I'm not sure about how she insulted you, but on the boards Niniane hasn't insulted Elaralith's role-playing at all. Niniane is responding the way her character should, not trying to 'control the game'.
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She's telling people how they should react to Elaralith. And i explained exactly how she insulted me. Korwin havn't you noticed how she always hated all my chars? Its because of an ooc grudge. The only punishment in her mind is death, but do you ever see her going to help someone without using death? Maybe finding a cure? Nope only punishment by death. Sure i'm up for kill the ill who else? A curse is an illness. She made fun of the ill. She has killed the ill. Belrog Crushe was ill with Bloodlust, she called him beast. Many things that went to violent actions. So your princess who loves life so dearly decided to help belrog crush by taking his life. And now she wants to put a bounty on Elaralith's head for being ill? And wasn't Niniane and Elaralith friends? Wow what a great friend. Maybe she'll be my friend? Sorry for sarcasm but its too obvoius i just don't see why you havn't seen it Korwin. I'm sorry i'm being blunt. But Niniane isn't a princess. Korwin you've known me alot longer then you've known her. But since she's been around you, you dislike me. But tell me if it wasn't for her, wouldn't you and i still have the friendship like we did along time ago? And now everyone hates Elaralith because she was ill in an rp manner? Well i don't hate her, she's a nice person. So she roleplayed as being ill-fated. She quit her rp because Niniane took her friends and put a bounty over her head. Tell me how i'm lying? If you think yourself a true friend. Wouldn't friends be willing to help a friend? Especially if there ill fated. So Niniane turned her back on Elaralith and decided to help only through death. And you take up for that? I'm sorry for being blunt again but she's not exactly the angel you all have mistaken her for.
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Post by Cain Freemont »

Grudges can only be created when there is REASON for it, Darkend Blade. I know that something stupid happened long ago between you two and I also know that when you actually were around her, you went off on her out of character ALL the time. You are doing what was recently done by Elaralith, trying to damage someone's reputation. Stop it. You're being foolish and only have insults to provide. In trying to ruin her reputation, Darkend Blade, you are showing that you hold a grudge. So, in a sense, you contradict your own words.
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Post by Korwin »

Also, Elaralith tried to damage the character's reputation, not the person.
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Cain cain cain you have just proven my point. And you see i'm out to stop all of that, that was done by her. Tell me how i was to make my point without going ooc about this? So i should just let her go about the way she is and treating everyone that decides to have a storyline like dirt just because it doesn't make sense to her? Or better yet let her take someone's life on illarion and turn it into rubble? Turn the town on Them? Cain like i said you proved my point. Because you can't see it. You wanna know why you can't see it? Because your char and her char are together. Sure she acts kindly towards you. But you can't see it when she doesn't do it to other people? The fact is, she must be stopped for her sake. And if you really love her cain, then you will be the one to talk to her. Because if she treats all of her friends this way. Then she will have nothing. And Cain you knew Durik and Sorsha was together. I once had the same feelings you had for her. Until i found out the truth about her. But at least i didn't allow my pride to intervene with conciousness of others deeds. Elaralith isn't out killing anyone. And if she did while i was away, she isn't now. She turned from the rp, and yet you still wish to kill her? Thats a shame for the justice of illarion. Using death to get what you want will only cause more death. Thats why death never stops and people never stop killing. I learned my lesson along time ago. When will you all learn yours?
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Post by Korwin »

Darkend, if The Character is doing something you don't approve of settle it In-Game. There is absolutely no reason for this to be on the main board. Niniane isn't against Elaralith's story, their characters have a grudge against each other. Elaralith insults Niniane, Niniane insults Elaralith etc.
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Post by Cain Freemont »

Niniane is a nice person and a good roleplayer. She is not doing anything to anyone. Go away Darkend Blade. You are only causing trouble.


GMs and Mods: It would be much appreciated if this entire thread were deleted...... Clearly this thread can only house anger and insults.
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Post by Niniane »

I'm sorry if you never understood Darkened Blade but I had a bad relationship with most of your characters because my character has a memory and does not easily forget things that other people do around her.

Durik attempted to keep a mirror found after a battle with Bachomiosh (or however you spell that name. It's late and I'm too tired for these silly personal attacks.) and was going to use it to gain power for himself! This was an example of greed with the consequence of harming everyone in town through RP so after this I thought of Durik in a bad light.

Darkened Blade/Belrog Crush I did not like because of the night you mentioned. He came into town speaking of something called 'blood lust' which an ork shaman bestowed upon he and another ork named Veralion. Then you, Darkened Blade related how there would be an open war and all in town would be overrun with more orks with this 'blood lust' and this was a threat on the town and everyone living in it. You were then attacked and killed to prevent you from organizing a large army. (RP killing.) You were speaking in Pig Latin and calling it orkish :roll: . I brought this to your attention and you went on a tirade for over 20 minutes with ooc insults in the same way you did after Durik was killed following his capture for multiple murders he committed, by myself and a group of 4 or so other individuals who had been present at Durik's killing spree.

Marduk Kurious was a well-known mage for his random killings and attacks on town. He burned the town numerous times and any who tried to stop him he would kill. He would apologize after and say he was now good after each attack and the next time you would get angry about something Marduk Kurious would show up and burn the town. Why would my character forgive an elf that has killed many many people and burned the town multiple times just because they said they were sorry again? 'I'm sorry' loses it's meaning after being spoken so many times.

As for your other characters, I honestly don't even remember them and don't wish to divulge who they are in the event you are to return to the game. I only explained the ones you listed in your initial post and will say no more to this. I hope it is locked or deleted or allowed to sink to the bottom of the files. It's completely devoid of useless information and only created to give me a bad name when all who were present at the events you brought up agreed that it was you who should be banned, but I never once sent an email requesting that your actions be looked into.

Please leave any ooc feelings out of your thoughts for my character and do not attempt to slander my name again. Please be mature about this.

As for Elaralith I was only roleplaying as I saw fit. I'll say it again. 'I'm sorry' only holds it's meaning from a person for so many times before it is just another set of words that pass over the ear and not into it. I would not take my feelings for Elaralith into the game and I would expect her not to take hers for me into the game either. I don't even know the person any more than what I have seen on the boards so I doubt either of us hold much of a view on the other persons ooc person to even bring into the game if we could. We had bitter arguments IC in the game and my character does not accept 'I'm sorry' for all that happened. If Elaralith feels that I have treated her unfairly in character I would like her to send me a PM yet she has not mentioned anything of this sort to me as of yet. It's roleplaying on my part as the character of Niniane. I hope this opens your eyes a little wider to what really happened.

If you still feel like I have done wrong in game please report me through email and let them decide but don't do it here. It will do absolutely no good but to slander my name in game and out unless that is what you are attempting to do and if this is the case I feel truly sorry for you. You also seem to be talking in character on the Main board for some reason. If you wish to know, Cain and Niniane have not been together for a few weeks. Niniane broke up with him because he's an elf and in rp thinking he would live much to long to be happy after she died so I left him. Yet he is still here defending me, so you can see that you have misjudged me.

I'm tired of all of these recent ooc personal attacks that have been thrown around on the boards in the past weeks at numerous different people and ask that a moderator please begin to crack down on these before they take over every aspect of the illarion forums as they are well on their way to doing.
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Wow, lots of people coming back to slag others off.... whos next? :lol:
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I'll just put it simple for you Darkend Blade. Characters like yours and Elaralith do wrong things in the past and the player decides to change how the character will act. Other characters react logically to the history of these characters, but you expect other characters to be nice to those characters like they have a clean sheet. You expect other players to react with their characters the way that YOU the player wants. Sorry but that's not how it works. You just can't accept the fact that your character's life is shaped by interactions with other characters and when something happens that you don't like, you say the other player is ruining your life in Illarion.

When another character reacts to your character in a way that you don't like, you go and complain ooc about the player. When Elaralith or Durik or any other character had a conflict with other characters, it's obviously logical RP for other characters to react in a negative way and does not need to be settled ooc as you're doing. Moral issues and judgement of the characters are an IC mater for characters to settle. You think that IC injustices are game injustices and that Illarion is a fairyland where your character is treated by other characters with perfect morals and justice. You just haven't grasped the meaning of the word roleplaying and how it's shaped by interactions with other characters in the world of Illarion.
Darkend Blade wrote: But i do roleplay, i've been doing it for years since i was a child
Either your childhood wasn't long ago or you never learned in all those years that your first character in this roleplaying game Illarion "silentgun" wasn't even an appropriate name? I hate to break it to you, but whatever you've been doing for those years, it wasn't actual roleplay.
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Post by Caranthir the great »

Could someone please lock/Delete the topic?

In my opinion this is just created to damage the reputation of certain player (And her character) by out of character means.
This topic never should have been started.
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Post by Drathe »

Hang on..........did I just see Jerry Springer comming?

'Illarion computer game made my life a living missery.'

Jerrys final thought

'How ever your role play, you are sure to make friends and enemies. How ever long you live, you are sure to make history. But at the end of the day, behind the pixelated mask of a character, we are all human.

We all have feelings and thoughts, we all react diffrently ..after all its only 'human'. Tho these thoughts and feelings can be dagerouse things, as long as you remember, 'its not me personaly, its only my chracter, and treat the person who plays that character out of game with the respect you would have them show you. life can be ....entertainingt for everybody.

Till next time Illarionites, take care of each other...and your selves.'
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Post by Grishnak Bloodlust »

Drathe, that was ultimately the most cheesey thing propbably ever said on the boards in all their time of being opened!
oh... and its take care of yourselves and each other, not the other way round 8)

But I dont think people should argue ooc even if their ooc opinions conflict. IF Ninaine was trying to give people bad reputations in game and on the rpg board then that is an in character issue. Arguing like this wont really make a difference but will only leave you even more bitter about the whole thing.
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You feel sorry for me Niniane? Its funny, i never thought a creature like you had feelings. But as for everyone else, its sad to see you all have been bewitched by her. Like i've said you all have met the Niniane i most disgust. I made it out in the open just like she made mine. You know, its really sad that you can't see it. I tell you one thing, when she does it again, be a little more coucious. And a little more open minded, seeing how i see your all closed minded about this. If i knew Niniane's email i wouuld of talked to her through that, but like i said i don't and i wanted this in the open. Niniane your not invincible like you think. Don't let your pride be your downfall. Your friends are loyal to you no matter what. So i guess my work here wasn't a success, just let it end here. No more public humiliations because you find them interesting just because you don't like someone. You did that to me. You even went out of your way to do it. You really shouldn't do that, you twisted my words, you made me look way worse then i already was, i mean in real life, if there's someone you don't like you just don't talk to them, that is if your a decent person. And if you didn't like a character because he was ill, then i feel sorry for you. My char Darkend Blade was ill, if you really wanted it to end peacefully then a cure could have been found really easily. But you wanted to cause panic and misunderstanding. Niniane i forgive you for what you have done. But i will not kiss your butt just to make it in game, and neither should anyone else. Your not queen, your not in control. If i want an rp, you have a right to be apart of it, i'd be glad to have you apart of it, and if Niniane really is a nice person like cain said she was, then why should we let this war between us drag anymore, I started this thread because I was reading Elaralith in the rp board then i talked to her and she told me the exact thing i've been trying to tell others. I only did it because i care about my friends. Even though many of them hate me now. I care about cain, korwin, quain, even you Niniane, i just don't understand how you hated me so much. Marduk came back and never killed anyone ever again. Durik i wanted to get deleted because playing an insane syco pathic wierd guy isn't too easy because i have to fight my own friends. GM's delete this post, and Niniane perhaps we should talk more about this elsewhere, because I really don't see the point in a war. I posted my feelings about all this. I just wanted you to know exactly went through my head when we fought. I wanted everyone to know. Because everyone was involved. And no i'm not going to report you Niniane. And cain when you said i was acting foolishly. You've gotten me all wrong. I only wanted people to see how i saw Niniane. Not how they see Niniane. That was never my intention. My intention was going to conclude in ending this fight, so finally we can ALL live in peace. And you know whats gonig to happen if i hear of any more blood lust or anything like that. I'm going to be a friend and help them find a cure. Even if its 800 times they do it. Another main point of my reason for putting up this board. Why mess up people's rp's when this is an rp game? And out of char attacks wouldn't be made if people allowed people to rp. Seriously if Niniane never would of spoke against the rp's that i had in store for my chars, like Marduk Kurious was going to be a scholar, Belrog Crushe was going to get fixed and had a family to worry about. Durik, well he was just wierd. Belrog is gone, Durik is gone, Marduk is gone. So i guess that would make my char a good guy, since they arn't ill in any way. Besides, does the rule book says your aquired to be a good guy? Nope! And my chars was only temperarily bad. One main reason for me being a bad guy is because i had done just about everything else. It was experimental testing just to see how it would work out. Marduk happend to be my first and my powerfullest. His whole deal was, he wanted to gain control for himself. That was his rp, yet my first bad guy rp so bare with me... Then i went with Darkend Blade and his Demon, that one worked great, everyone helped him get a cure, all ended peacefully, a quest which many people enjoyed. So then that was over so i thought i'd have a main bad guy char, hoping that it would work out. I made Durik who was at first supposed to be finding a girl and marrying her cuz well he loved her, Sorsha. He only got to see her 2 days for the month they were married. But i understand why tho. Anyways moving on. They broke up, he turned insane and i tried the insane approach to being a bad guy, everyone saw he was insane and would do anything to get those he had felt betrayed him. So he made a pact with the spirit Kata...s.. well you know the wraith.. He got stronger, i waltzed into town yelling at the top of my lungs about the amulet trying to get it back because that is what she wanted me to do. He got his butt kicked pretty badly but all ended well there, i called her to take his life, i came back on DB and oocly told everyone that i'm just rping that i really don't like fighting my friends. Which i don't. So now you have it, the reason for the bad guys i had. I've done everything there is to do just about, well kinda theres alot of new things.
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ahhhh.......my eyes 8) i need paragraphs!
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Post by Caranthir the great »

When you post, please don't post the whole as a single big lump.
That is just pain to read.
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Yeah i kinda noticed that, sorry >.<. I was kinda in hurry because i'm getting ready for work but i'm cought up now :lol: .
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heh talk about someone who let a game control his life.... Niniane has been nice to me for the most part, actually I don't think she has been mean to me at all. She is a good rper and a good person altogether. For you to attack her personally is just pathetic, you don't know her only her character and yet you seem to hate her. You quit this game correct? Why are you still posting? Why don't you let it go? Niniane has been through enough shmear ((spelling?)) campaigns for the month.
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Why do you feel that your character can say something like "I'm going to amass and army and take over the town" and then say "((It's alright, I'm just RPing))"? Do you think they'll say "Oh, alright then. That's alright"?

Do you honestly believe that because you are "RPing", no one can touch you? No one wants to stop you from role-playing, they are just trying to stop your character. They don't think the player has gone mad and wants to kill everything. Of course you're "RPing" you have to. That's what the whole game is about. If you aren't Role-playing you shouldn't be around.

You were role-playing, so you should expect people to respond to "I'm going to use this item to kill you all!" with violence. No one is going to say, "I'm just going to not do anything so I can see where this is going."

The character Niniane isn't ill-disposed towards you, no matter how many times you say it.
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Post by Burin »

Ninaine, quit trying to change my opinion.

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I think this is something to be discussed IC...All these negative feelings towards Niniane it seems are because of something she did IC...I am sure that the person that roleplays Niniane is not the "evil creature" that some of you have described her as.

Also, please do not bring me my name up in this discussion because I do not want to be a part of it. I have been roleplaying Elaralith having fun, and I don't want that to be ruined by negative feelings OOC. And I do not hold it against the people that had different reactions to Elaralith's roleplay because that is what I love most! The unexpected element is what makes my roleplaying fun for me, and I love it when people do that and I try to create that element with my own roleplaying whenever I can. I decided to create a "unperfect" stage of Elaralith's life because I wanted to show the very mortal side of her (I thought she had a bit too holy and perfect personality, and its no fun to interact with characters with no flaws!). I did this with full knowledge of the reactions that might come, and I had fun doing it, and I myself don't hold anything against the people that through their characters expressed thier reactions because its just roleplay. Now I am going to roleplay Elaralith's "rebirth" and I know I will have just as much as ever and I really don't want to be involved in OOC quarrels that might ruin that fun. Thank you.

P.S. I realize when I was roleplaying Elaralith's "not perfect" stage of her life I let some of that roleplay seep OOC onto the boards! I am sincerely sorry if I offended anyone OOC because of it; it's just that I get so deep into my roleplaying I sometimes don't notice such things! I am sure a lot of others like me have this same problem that we need to work on. :wink:
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Regarding Darkend Blade:

These are all in character matters and I'm appalled that Darkend Blade thinks he has to bring his own mistakes and ignorance forward in thinking that since he dreamed up some story line for himself and then attempted to interact them with other people and they did not go exactly as he planned that I was some fiendish witch who does nothing but destroy rp. If you are going to act 'evil' in any way then you have to realize that different people react in different ways to these cases. Niniane, the character reacts in a way befitting her past! When she feels threatened by others for any reason she will fight back for her own safety and that of others. When someone is a killer she is going to warn others. When someone lies about her reputation she is going to strike back! When there are threats of war she is going to attempt to stop the war as soon as she can. Just because you're not thinking of how others will react to your stories does not mean they should not react. If you don't want others to change your dream scenarios then write a book and don't involve other people in their making (which is apparently what you think should be the case with this insane post of yours). If you want to roleplay then do so knowing that your story will take many twists and turns you did not expect because this isn't your own little fantasy camp for you to live a perfect dream, this is a roleplaying community with many different people based in a fantasy environment. You can become whatever you want but you must realize there are going to be people who wish to stop you from becoming a hazard to themselves or to the community. One such person is myself.

I'm disturbed that you have given out the name of one of my alternate characters in this forum and I think you should edit your post to remove her name. You've overlapped your sense of in character and out of character events and motives. The events you have described happened in character among different characters but the reasons you give are my ooc disdain for you which I must admit is growing in light of recent events such as this ridiculous post to tarnish my name. The name of my alternate characters is not information you have the right to give out, Darkened Blade. The only reason. I repeat, the ONLY REASON I even mentioned your alternate characters was because you listed them in your own post, making them public knowledge. If you don't remove her name I ask a moderator to at least do this much.

You say that you would have emailed me with your opinions if you had my address but you saw no other way than posting on a public forum because you didn't know my email address. This further proves the depth of your lies; you know there is a PM function on these boards! If you have something to say to me in private then you should have done so with the PM function. Elaralith should have PMed me with her thoughts on all of this instead of badmouthing me to you as well (which is what you have made it seem she has done. I do not believe she would do such a thing). I'm sure you have filled her head with lies about me as you are attempting to do to the entire community with this thread. Shame on you Darkend Blade. You conveniently left out vital information in your prior posts. You failed to mention that you came into the game numerous times while intoxicated, you would find your way into a verbal fight with my character and depending on your mood the length of time before you would retreat into a bracketed ooc slander campaign against me would vary! You would then apologize with the excuse that you were drunk and all should be forgiven, I’m sorry but that is no rp excuse for you attacking and killing innocent people, myself included. There are many individuals who experienced your reprehensible actions such as on the night you were playing as Durik and resorted to an ooc insult tirade that should have gotten you banned permanently but I did not report you. Dyluck, Cain Freemont and others were all witnesses of this.

Your attempt to give me a bad name by withholding the full truth and when it is later divulged saying that I twist your own words is laughable.

@ Randelf

Again that was an in character event and not something for the main forums. It was solved in game as it should have been and for this you apparently must be commended because there are others who do not have the capacity for such logical thinking.

@Moderators

Please lock/delete this forum thread as it is nothing but an ooc attack on my person due to actions of my character. This clearly violates game rules and yet the previously mentioned Darkened Blade has yet to understand this. There is no reason whatsoever for a post of this nature to be allowed on these forums as it is meant only to interfere with roleplaying instead of adding something positive to the community. A person with a vendetta against my character should not be allowed to take it out on my personal self because he has no means to do so in game within any aspect of roleplaying (if he even has an account).

I will not respond to this astounding post again unless I am further accused of things which someone can not understand was an in game matter to be settled in game and not on the forums for all to read ooc. I do not take being attacked, slandered, lied about while sitting down and will actively protect my good name if the moderators will not take action and do so for me.

@ Korwin, Dyluck, Cain etc.

Thank you for coming to my defense. It is nice to see that are good people in the game who understand what the difference is between ooc and ic actions/statements and see it as an injustice for someone to speak out against myself or others like me who are assaulted on the forums for things that should be kept to themselves by those who are not able to grasp the meaning of roleplay yet.

Again, moderators please take some action on this and similar assaulting posts. Thank you very much in advance. :D
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