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@Niniane You fail to see what many others are beginning to see-the Big Picture. I take you are another "anti-Elaralith" person. People gang up and insult me, and I respond with undue decency on my part. You see, this is really nothing more than one person with some hatred in his heart and gathering up to support him to gang up on one lone target. In this case the unfortunate victim would be me, and what must be done is for the antagonizers to be dealt with in a proper fashion.
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Cain Freemont
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@Elaralith
Can you answer in a reasonable way why this sort of thing happens in nearly every one of your posts?
I've given the answer in my other posts. You talk down to people, call their ideas stupid, call them stupid (and yes, telling Cain to use his brain is calling him stupid because you're implying that he does not use his brain), and you attack ideas that are not your own. That's all wrong. It's also wrong when they lash back at your insults with insults of their own. I admit that and I've done that in the past but I see no reason to do so any longer. I only speak what is blatantly obvious to other people. I don't call your ideas bad, I believe some of them are bad but that is my own personal opinion and my opinion or beliefs are not the same as others so that does not mean you are wrong, or that I am wrong. They're different. (No, I do not think you start the flame wars in ever instance, but I do know you start it in many cases and in the very least, continue it. This cannot be denied as and if you wish to do so, look back over this entire thread and read how many times you posted off topic. This is continuing the flame, thus perpetuating the problem, the same is true for the others and now it seems I myself am included, sorry to say.)
You are not above this. You are a part of this. Cain is a part of this too. Both of you are in the wrong. So please, stop. I stand by what I've said; if Cain or anyone else who is guilty of flaming in your posts are punish so should you be. You antagonize them into flaming you and then flame them back. There would be no flaming if you did not respond to them. You call them wolves, so stop feeding them. With no food they will go away. If you wish to be above all of this then stop responding.
An I anti-Elaralith? Maybe. I know that you have done wrong to litter the boards with flames, insult other players and to be generally rude to many players behind the screen and yet to request they be punished for doing the same to you. I also know that you are trying to improve illarion (seemingly) and this is to be commended but the ways you go about it in many instances are not.
Please, before this goes any farther, everyone just take a deep breath and relax and stop flaming each other. Both sides are wrong. Neither side is right. The original topic is lost and over. Also, please close this board and lock it. It's over and done with.
Can you answer in a reasonable way why this sort of thing happens in nearly every one of your posts?
I've given the answer in my other posts. You talk down to people, call their ideas stupid, call them stupid (and yes, telling Cain to use his brain is calling him stupid because you're implying that he does not use his brain), and you attack ideas that are not your own. That's all wrong. It's also wrong when they lash back at your insults with insults of their own. I admit that and I've done that in the past but I see no reason to do so any longer. I only speak what is blatantly obvious to other people. I don't call your ideas bad, I believe some of them are bad but that is my own personal opinion and my opinion or beliefs are not the same as others so that does not mean you are wrong, or that I am wrong. They're different. (No, I do not think you start the flame wars in ever instance, but I do know you start it in many cases and in the very least, continue it. This cannot be denied as and if you wish to do so, look back over this entire thread and read how many times you posted off topic. This is continuing the flame, thus perpetuating the problem, the same is true for the others and now it seems I myself am included, sorry to say.)
You are not above this. You are a part of this. Cain is a part of this too. Both of you are in the wrong. So please, stop. I stand by what I've said; if Cain or anyone else who is guilty of flaming in your posts are punish so should you be. You antagonize them into flaming you and then flame them back. There would be no flaming if you did not respond to them. You call them wolves, so stop feeding them. With no food they will go away. If you wish to be above all of this then stop responding.
An I anti-Elaralith? Maybe. I know that you have done wrong to litter the boards with flames, insult other players and to be generally rude to many players behind the screen and yet to request they be punished for doing the same to you. I also know that you are trying to improve illarion (seemingly) and this is to be commended but the ways you go about it in many instances are not.
Please, before this goes any farther, everyone just take a deep breath and relax and stop flaming each other. Both sides are wrong. Neither side is right. The original topic is lost and over. Also, please close this board and lock it. It's over and done with.
@Ninane You are right in saying that you are a part of this flame war since you took sides. But you are not right on a number of points... you are not the victim of a group of flamers intent on insulting you personally and publicly so you do not feel nor see what I do. If you can ignore group of hatred-filled flamers who continually insult you on the boarden you have the right to lecture me; so far you have done everything short of that to the extent of even starting flame wars yourself and continuing , them. That's why you have little right to say to me what you have in your post, which is frankly quite hypocritic of you.
And I have suggested from the start when this flame war was started that it be locked to prevent the troublemakers from continuing their insults.
And I have suggested from the start when this flame war was started that it be locked to prevent the troublemakers from continuing their insults.
I'm sorry Elaralith but you failed to see the meaning of my entire message. I was trying to protect you from harming yourself in this. Let them be the ones thought of as wrong and not yourself. The only want to do this is to stop responding to these messages yourself, as they will not. You wont either and this creates flame. This flame is what you seek to stop by means of moderator interaction and if they did they would or should punish you too for you do the same as all others in this war. I sought to keep you from being banned because you can present valuable suggestions to the betterment of illarion but yet again the meaning of a message was lost in it's transmission to you, and for this I am truly sorry.
I'm truly perplexed as to how you can say I have obviously chosen sides. I have not chosen sides and you would know that if you had read my posts. I said both sides of this were wrong. They are wrong for insulting you and continuing this flame. You are wrong for insulting and continuing this flame, who began the flame is debatable. If it is the one who throws out the first insult or the one who responds to the first insult. The details are unimportant in this as both were insulted, both insulted and both are wrong. BOTH sides are wrong, for this I said both sides should be punished. Not just you. Not just them. Both.
I admitted that I had sadly become a part of the off topic flame in my message, you do not need to point this out to me. I have only done so to attempt to make you realize that you are also at fault. You are not the sole victim. They do insult you, yes, but you also insult them. In many cases your rude statements or insults are what bring this all upon you and if you could try to speak friendlier to start with this would not be a problem. There, another attempted helpful tip for you Elaralith. As for myself, I am leaving this thread as I have said all that needs to be said to you, or about you and the others. See? This is how you stop a flame, you leave it alone until it burns out on it's own. I shall lead by example and for it, be a better example to all others in the process. Thank you for supposedly reading this.
I'm truly perplexed as to how you can say I have obviously chosen sides. I have not chosen sides and you would know that if you had read my posts. I said both sides of this were wrong. They are wrong for insulting you and continuing this flame. You are wrong for insulting and continuing this flame, who began the flame is debatable. If it is the one who throws out the first insult or the one who responds to the first insult. The details are unimportant in this as both were insulted, both insulted and both are wrong. BOTH sides are wrong, for this I said both sides should be punished. Not just you. Not just them. Both.
I admitted that I had sadly become a part of the off topic flame in my message, you do not need to point this out to me. I have only done so to attempt to make you realize that you are also at fault. You are not the sole victim. They do insult you, yes, but you also insult them. In many cases your rude statements or insults are what bring this all upon you and if you could try to speak friendlier to start with this would not be a problem. There, another attempted helpful tip for you Elaralith. As for myself, I am leaving this thread as I have said all that needs to be said to you, or about you and the others. See? This is how you stop a flame, you leave it alone until it burns out on it's own. I shall lead by example and for it, be a better example to all others in the process. Thank you for supposedly reading this.
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Cain Freemont
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Let ye who is free of sin cast the first stone, Elaralith. You cast the first stone long ago, do you claim YOU are free of sin? Can you honestly consider yourself a victim? Can you look in the mirror and into your own soul and call yourself a sin-free human?Elaralith wrote:No, I am a victim of hatred-filled flamers/troublemakers. And you are a heat-filled and unreasonable flamer who constantly must swear and insult in your posts.
>Cain Freemont
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Cain Freemont
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Yes Gro'bul, cheese is good. Cheese can solve many problems, but it cannot solve that which I have been dealing with for some time now. "Cheese is good, cheese is nice. In a spread or by the slice. Cheese for me, cheese for you. Rats love cheese, well how about you?" The official cheese song.
I'm really tired of the flaming and such that is going on, but I will not give in unless a certain someone is willing to admit they were wrong as well. And, since this certain person seems to be completely oblivious to the fact that they were wrong, I see no end to this festival of flame...on either the "victim's" side or the opposed side.
I admit, I am in the wrong for continuing this, but as long as I have others that are in the wrong with me, its like one big party. So get out the confetti and party hats, this is going to be a long night...
Apparent advesary to the world,
>Cain Freemont
I'm really tired of the flaming and such that is going on, but I will not give in unless a certain someone is willing to admit they were wrong as well. And, since this certain person seems to be completely oblivious to the fact that they were wrong, I see no end to this festival of flame...on either the "victim's" side or the opposed side.
I admit, I am in the wrong for continuing this, but as long as I have others that are in the wrong with me, its like one big party. So get out the confetti and party hats, this is going to be a long night...
Apparent advesary to the world,
>Cain Freemont