Dispelling the confusion.

Vern Kron · Post by **Vern Kron** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:07 am

Sometimes in our game, there is an accident. A character is ghosted. Some say the person is dead and returned to life. Some say this character is simply injured. Some say knocked out, and some say the person is actually fine and just needs to rest and pray.
Can we please get a little clarity here, or suggestions?

Athian · Post by **Athian** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:19 am

Totally dependant on the situation in my eyes. the severity of the attack is what i usually consider.

For example, two people get into a bar fight and one goes down. Low risk of death and likely rp'd as unconcious

a fight in armor with swords i put at about 50/50 odds of death. left up to the players involved to decide, but if not discussed i generally look at it as i knock out.

Get toasted by a mage, dragon, npc mage or npc monster i generally look at as either a very brutal knocking out or a death that is revived by the power of the cross.

in 2 or 3 injures should be rp'd or at least some kind of short term weakness in character.

thats just my personal opinion

Vern Kron · Post by **Vern Kron** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:25 am

Yes, but lets say it was an accidental clouding, or an npc clouding by a mass of varient creatures? Because some people say the character is dead, and some say the character is knocked out. Honestly I wish that there was a official staff/gm opinion.

Retlak · Post by **Retlak** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:28 am

It's one of those things where you can call it anything, and players won't care less, it won't even disturb anyone's roleplay.

if anyone gets clouded i roleplay it all the time as "Dead, coming back to life" even if it's a silly little thing.

All that concerns people is: Is it a perm death? or Are the injuries played out properly?

Post by **Estralis Seborian** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:39 am

Refer to "it" as getting clouded and everything is fine. All this unconscious-heavly injured-stuff isn't backed up by the client.

http://illarion.org/community/wiki/index.php/Death

Julius · Post by **Julius** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:44 am

I personally try to rp an injury with every clouding. It's either a few bruises from something with a club or a some huge gashes from a red or a lagged duel. I think it's it up to the player how he wants to play a ghosting, to tell you the truth.

Pellandria · Post by **Pellandria** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:04 am

Seems with the "new" system its obvious what one wants to do and can even rp what happens to his enemy in the end...

Konrad Knox · Post by **Konrad Knox** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:05 am

I built my character's personality over this client limitation, learning from lessons of the past. He is no killer, no assassin. Rather a peacekeeper, and when danger arises, I roleplay as knocking someone's weapons out of their hands and hitting them to the neck, temporarily disabling them, and in character I refer to such things as clouding. Hitting someone with so much force that their body dissolves.
Instead of deaths, battle in Illarion are basically a series of punishments and bumps, that keep denting your essense until by yours or GMs' discretion, your essense supply runs out, and you can no longer rise.

This makes balance of guilds possible. When guild wars occur, it's all about spiris and powers. Way of the sword is tightly interconnected with way of the spirit. When a guild leader is clouded, he does not die, unless his spirit can no longer rise, he just gets knocked a few energy levels down, and his clan becomes weaker in the social chain.

It's like a chess game of supernatural immortals to me. As long as crosses are around, your life force and you are one.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:19 am

Well Konrad, that was so deep and philosophical

Miklorius · Post by **Miklorius** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:05 pm

I think it is indeed a problem that there is no official death guideline. So sometimes different parties have different views of what ghosting it what leads to RP/OOC conflicts.

Personally I play ghosting more death than just injury (see Estralis' posting).

Nice: With Nitram's latest fighting system addition (I didn't see it in action yet) the accidently killing can be minimized. And it is some kind of long-wanted knockout system: If the "blow of mercy" (which seems not to be the correct english term) is not executed, you are injured - otherwise "dead".

Greisling · Post by **Greisling** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:52 pm

Kudos to Nitram! You are the man!
(Besides Vilarion, of course

)

Sundo Raca · Post by **Sundo Raca** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:33 pm

I personally do what Julius said. Though I like how Konrad thinks