Town of Troll's Bane

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:14 pm

Yes Sir Rothman, the town salutes you and your shaping of it.

I will consider creating a statue in your image, with the following description:
As a guard under Siltaris, Julius Rothman defended her, someone who suspended elections, refusing to give a reason, and then jailed Edward Cromwell, the only major person challenging her when elections finally were opened (but of course, I am the corrupt one). He was jailed based only on a rumor. Then as a guard later on his duties consisted of begging for his salary on a day to day basis, while being in the company of criminals. Then Sir Rothman decided he wanted to start a guild halfway on the other side of the island, and declared war on the Knights of Gobaith, willing to slay for a mere track of land. The true knights of the land, not wanting to be bothered by this pest, gave in to the demands and sold the land. This was also the cause of him and his friend Dain walking into town and attacking Dantagon in the town shop. Upon leaving, they returned, and Julius stood by idly while Dain demanded Dantagon's blood, but he settled for that of a child instead, drawing her blood by the stream around the library. He makes great efforts to be friendly with, or flat out befriend, mass murderers and consistent liars, to the point where I had to negotiate the handing over of a number of them, which was declined. Then Sir Rothman believed he could undermine the real citizens of Trolls Bane by flooding their town list, with the hope to pillage the peoples money for his guild. Perhaps he should've formulated this plan before filling his guild with criminals, who are automatically excluded from being citizens.

And in front of this statue we will dig a hole in the ground, where passers by may urinate or defecate, if they do not feel like walking to the bathroom south of town.

As for your actual request: No thanks.

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Julius · Post by **Julius** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:12 pm

Fooser wrote:Yes Sir Rothman, the town salutes you and your shaping of it.

I will consider creating a statue in your image, with the following description:
As a guard under Siltaris, Julius Rothman defended her, someone who suspended elections, refusing to give a reason, and then jailed Edward Cromwell, the only major person challenging her when elections finally were opened (but of course, I am the corrupt one). He was jailed based only on a rumor. Then as a guard later on his duties consisted of begging for his salary on a day to day basis, while being in the company of criminals. Then Sir Rothman decided he wanted to start a guild halfway on the other side of the island, and declared war on the Knights of Gobaith, willing to slay for a mere track of land. The true knights of the land, not wanting to be bothered by this pest, gave in to the demands and sold the land. This was also the cause of him and his friend Dain walking into town and attacking Dantagon in the town shop. Upon leaving, they returned, and Julius stood by idly while Dain demanded Dantagon's blood, but he settled for that of a child instead, drawing her blood by the stream around the library. He makes great efforts to be friendly with, or flat out befriend, mass murderers and consistent liars, to the point where I had to negotiate the handing over of a number of them, which was declined. Then Sir Rothman believed he could undermine the real citizens of Trolls Bane by flooding their town list, with the hope to pillage the peoples money for his guild. Perhaps he should've formulated this plan before filling his guild with criminals, who are automatically excluded from being citizens.

And in front of this statue we will dig a hole in the ground, where passers by may urinate or defecate, if they do not feel like walking to the bathroom south of town.

As for your actual request: No thanks.

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Thank you, Fooser. I never expected so much praise from you. However, I think you've been misinformed and your judgement clouded.

I never defended the woman known as Siltaris. She denied me entry into the Town Guard multiple times due to my last name. The only reason I ever became a Town Guard is because of Taliss. He accepted me into it's ranks a few days before her ultimate demise. Also, I never even touched the man by the name of Edward Cromwell. Edward was jailed by Taliss and Siltaris herself, I had no hand in the matter. So before you make up another lie, atleast check the facts. If I cannot join because of this minor detail (which I didn't do) then neither should Taliss be able to dawn the Town Guard banner.

I never begged you, Fooser for my salary. I simply asked if I could have my salary from you after 2 months to 4 months of not even getting any. I'm still owed money for my time spent in the town guard to this day, Fooser. I never was in the company of criminals as you say. I did my job, Governor, as a Town Guard to the best of my abilities and I helped protect against crime without a jail key. You never even supplied equipment.

I made a guild, aye. The land of Kallahorn belonged to Stephen and the Knighthood of Kallahorn. The Order of the Crimson Wolf was always a mock for the Knighthood. A training ground before we made Kallahorn Official. During the time of the Crimson Wolf, you might have noticed that the so called criminals of the Current Knighthood were staying out of the Trolls Bane picture for the most part. As for your second point, the lands were rightfully ours. I have offered Dantagon peacefully, over 5 times for the land.

I offered him one gold for the land and the resources that the ruin is capable of producing. He refused yet again. At this time, Dain Laiden came into the picture and offered me his sword, so we bonded together and declared war. You might note, Foosy, that we never really were at war. I gave the Knighthood of Gobaith 3 dwarven days to have a answer to our demands. Luckily they made the contract within that time frame. But bothered? I'd say they made the contract more out of fear then anything, Governor.

You also may note that I never attacked Dantagon. I stood idly by my depot as You and Dantagon attacked Dain with his back facing me. Dantagon, like the coward he is shouted for me to help and for Konrad as well. The other man in attendence and I, being honorable men would not attack some one with such great of odds. I also would not attack a man's back, Fooser. Thats why I was suspended from the guard? Because I refused to help slay a man with 2 others, perhaps 3? Bah..

I make efforts, Fooser to side with criminals you say? Was it not you, Fooser that rode into town that day with that massive raiding group with some of the current members of Kallahorn? Was it not you that befriended them to gain a upper hand and destroy the current Trolls Bane government so that you could become Governor? You were there friends once, which is according to you a crime. You then stabbed them in the back, which is deceit. Great job, Governor.

And I wish to become a citizen so that I could place my vote on you, Fooser. You are a navive lizard. You want power and the title of Governor, however you lost the election weeks back when you made the entire Knighthood citizens. Now, Dantagon and Jorokars winning is sealed and you shall be a lost soul, wandering the streets because you are to stupid to realize what you have already done and you back stabbed the only group you can turn back to.

Thank you Foosy,
Julius Rothman
Knight of Kallahorn
Warrior of Malachin

Amadi Yusuf Randal · Post by **Amadi Yusuf Randal** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:01 pm

Dear Fooser, dear Julius Rothman.

Insultings from older days wont help anybody. We all know that some circumstances in the past were, lets say, "unlucky".
But dont you both think its time for a new beginning? I d love to see some peacefull connections instead of war and hateress.

Its the Governors choice if you will become citizen or not, Sir Rothman. Thats fact. And if Governer Fooser decides like this, you have to deal with it.
All I can say, as a townguard, is that Julius Rothman allways behaved well when I saw him in town. He never commited any crime, or had any contact to other wanted criminals.

I want to show why I think it would be the right decision to allow mister Rothman citizenship:
If the people of trolls bane want mister Rothman as Governor, for example, I think it wouldnt be fair to keep him away from the elections in this way. If the folks votes like this, its the folks will. For a fair election, everyone should be able to candidate. Dont you think so, governor?

~A.Y.R.
Captain Townguard

Keunthus · Post by **Keunthus** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:21 pm

From what I have seen, I would say that sir Julius should be granted citizenship. He seems to be a man of honor.

//Keunthus
Page of the Knights of Keunthus
Citizen of Troll's Bane
Recruit of Troll's Bane's Town Guard

Evan Ross · Post by **Evan Ross** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:44 pm

I once again wish to ask what I have done that supports local crime and why you have not yet answered. I feel you are simply denying my Citizenship because of who my father is.

~Roland Ross~

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:57 pm

It's because Julius put you on the Kallahorn citizen list.

~W.E~

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:59 pm

Amadi Yusuf Randal wrote: I want to show why I think it would be the right decision to allow mister Rothman citizenship:
If the people of trolls bane want mister Rothman as Governor, for example, I think it wouldnt be fair to keep him away from the elections in this way. If the folks votes like this, its the folks will. For a fair election, everyone should be able to candidate. Dont you think so, governor?

He stated that was not his intent, so there is no fairness issue.

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Evan Ross · Post by **Evan Ross** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:06 pm

AlexRose wrote:It's because Julius put you on the Kallahorn citizen list.

~W.E~

I was most definitely unaware of this.
Governor Fooser, If that is the reason you are choosing to deny my citizenship request, I assure you,
I am not a member of Kallahorn nor was I ever a member of any faction or group with the exception of
the Magic Academy (As a student) and Caelum (Which you yourself helped in taking Trollsbane from Siltaris).
I would like to once again apply to become a Citizen and please remember, Although Evan Ross is my father, I am not him.

~Roland Ross~

Julius · Post by **Julius** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:58 pm

The Roland listed on the Kallahorn boards is a different man entirely, not Roland Ross. This can be hinted by the fact that the last name Ross is not after it.

On a side note, in order to get into Trolls Bane once more, I'd like to annouce my early candacy for Governor. Is that better, Governor? It is now an act of unfairness.

Thank you,
Julius Rothman
Knight of Kallahorn
Warrior of Malachin

Faladron · Post by **Faladron** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:02 pm

I wish to be added upon the citizenlist.

Faladron Furnir

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:13 pm

No, that just makes you a liar and a violation of the dual citizen rules, so no. Citizens do not 1) harbor criminals, 2) conduct diplomacy on their own or 3) divert resources away outside of Troll's Bane.

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Julius · Post by **Julius** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:14 pm

Are the Knights of Gobaith not breaking the same rules? Please provide examples of the last 2, Governor. Through dove format, of course.

Julius Rothman
Knight of Kallahorn

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:12 am

No they do not, they operate in town and aren't harboring criminals. You ask for examples of the last two, are you admitting the first one? As if that isn't bad enough, I need to explain further if that is the case?

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Julius · Post by **Julius** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:19 am

Nay, I've already explained the first one too many times to be bothered explaining it once more. We have tried to reconcile for what they have done and even helped turn in the members that have had past crimes. Why would we turn in Dominic over a crime that a man has already served time for? That is redudent and will not happen on my watch or any other's within the Knighthood. So bah.. we harbor criminals not, Fooser. If you listen to most of the men and women on this isle that aren't in your high circle you'll see that most of our members are generally well liked among the common public. I have the witnesses and the names that have said such things if you need proof.

Thank you,
Julius Rothman
Knight of Kallahorn
Warrior of Malachin

Vern Kron · Post by **Vern Kron** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:47 am

Julius,
Look at the names of those banned from towns. How many times are the ones listed there in your knighthood? Your people are well liked, but only because they do not get the full story. Enough of your little fight. I am tired of this, and if you continue I will reveal what I crimes I have witnessed to not only the town, but the whole island.
Enjoy the rest of your evening sir,
Artimer Fault.
P.S. You may try to execute me but I have sent a letters to people you do not really know to be put up upon my death, should I die upon the sword. Faladron, you may go ahead and start speaking of how I am a lieing scoundral, but please remember you have destroyed a peace treaty and very well could have gotten us all killed. Enjoy.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:13 am

Wow, there really is some sanity on this island, I am impressed.

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Konrad Knox · Post by **Konrad Knox** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:25 am

I think it's a fair thing to give Julius his citizenship, if he truely desires it for the good of the city, with one condition, that he can only have it granted, after the election. Once the governor for the term is chosen, if Julius still wants to be a citizen that will be a sign of his true dedication.

-Konrad

Faladron · Post by **Faladron** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:35 am

Not every rustle in this jungle of parchments and notes requires
me to take note and action, Artimer.

Faladron,
who still wants to become a citizen of Trollsbane

Sundo Raca · Post by **Sundo Raca** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:46 am

The below note is written hastily and in an odd reddish ink.

I would like to request that if i ever try to gain citizenship in your miserable town that someone should end me there and then.

Wolf.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:31 am

Faladron wrote:I wish to be added upon the citizenlist.

Faladron Furnir

Once you prove you can stay out of prison for more than a couple months at a time, I will consider it.

As for the others, it is final, and won't be changing, the list is now frozen and will not be changed further.

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Faladron · Post by **Faladron** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:43 am

Fooser, your words insult me severly.

Not ONCE have I served a prison sentence in your town,
as you might recall, the first time I spent a day in your prison,
it was Artimer Faults doings that brought the both of us there,
he was charged to make a payment to me, for the attempted murder on me, I was being released the very same day once the matter was sorted out.

The second offense, which you might recall, was dealt with swiftly by judge Ayla. So swiftly infact, that not even you were informed, nor was my banishment announced anywhere, perhaps this will remind you, dear Fooser.

A note is struck below, pinned in by a dagger, with much force.

Fooser wrote:Greetings Faladron,

I have just recently learned of your capture and trial, which I did not even know of until a few days ago, regarding the incident in the hospital some time ago. Just to make it clear, this is not how trials usually operate, and I am a little baffled on why nothing was said of it. For that reason I apologize to you, and hear that you had a fine to pay, and am willing to cut that in half if you so wish.

And though I apologize for the proceedings, I am not impressed by your behavior, or that of the others, based on the stories told by Fianna and Artimer, and you all should know better.

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I had to put up with an unjust trial, neither have I heard for which offenses exactly I was being charged, nor did the town provide me meassures as to defend myself properly (Fianna, which I mentioned twice to be called as a witness, and Chryton Nightely, which were both present have neither received a note asking for their testemony, although I have pointed out to inquire them to your guardchief several times).

I have not made this public, I payed my fine, kept away from town during the time I was banished, accepted the meassures taken against me and thought that perhaps at least mistakes like the one happened to me will not happen again when others are sentenced,
but your words claiming things untrue force me to go public with this.

You may now reconsider both the words you used against me, as I point out again I have never been jailed in Trollsbane, and my request
to join the city.

Your argument is flawed, all that is left is ... what exactly?
Your mood of day, or what keeps you from granting me citizenship now?

Faladron Furnir

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:50 am

You're damn right. I reserve the right to deny opportunists citizenship, people who quite clearly and blatantly couldn't give two pig turds about the town, outside of their own interests. Perhaps I should change my statement to "try going a couple months without running off to a mass murderer, or assaulting one of my citizens," and I will reconsider this.

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Q-wert · Post by **Q-wert** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:49 pm

~A note with narrow writing is pinned beyond~

As here are nearly only complaints about Foosers citicen-policy,
I want to add that not few citicens, including myself consider his
doing as usefull. Giving citicenship to someone who owns land far
away from the town, or attends a guild, group or knighthood that
has to care for such land, is rather useless. And for the cases of
persons who are suspected to support or commit crime or even
betrayal, I also support the Gouvenor. If there is a way of
preventing doings like the ones of Evan Ross, they should be used.
I guess if someone proves that his doing is the best for the town,
our Gouvenor will give him the status of a citicen.

~Rorak, Town Guard.

Retlak · Post by **Retlak** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:20 pm

Be careful Fooser.

-Grivijak

Faladron · Post by **Faladron** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:36 am

Fooser wrote:Perhaps I should change my statement to

Perhaps you shouldnt change your opinion and reasonings that often (oh say, whenever it got prooven wrong by the stronger argument).
It seriously destroys your credibility.

But what to expect from a town where

the governor changes his policies on a whim, and can't accept when he was beaten in an argument.

the captain of guard endangers children by letting them face the golem he lured out of the copper mountains alone, only stepping back in to help when they are near dead, and refuses the help of others because of pride.

the judge passed down verdict without trial and fled from her responsibilities for her actions by stepping down upon free will.

Regardless, if I can contribute to that town, I will, as I did in the past I will do so in the future, I don't need you to evaluate me, I know myself what I do and where my loyalities lie, namely in helping others.

And Fooser, I can't blame you for not feeling human emotions when having to mourn over the dead of one you hold dear, as
you simply are not human.

That was the reason for my "assault on one of your citizens" and I,
instead of real criminals who play dress-up with your guard and visit town during their banishment, or even continue commiting crime, accepted the fines and meassures and consider myself now purged of this wrongdoing.

It is funny to see how "Knighthood" and "Knighthood" appear to be two different words for some, Rorak.

I don't believe that the Knights of Gobaith will finish their "project", which is currently in "phase 1" according to their parchment, inside Trollsbane, so they also have responsibilities and loyalities elsewhere.
Nevertheless they are allowed both citizenship and attendance in the townguard... a strange hypocrisy to denie the one while accept and even assimilate the other.

Vern Kron · Post by **Vern Kron** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:46 am

Faladron. You aren't a member of this town. Please stop worrying about it, because you aren't a citizen and it doesn't effect you, or Julius. Go and focus on Kallahorn like you both have wanted to do for so long and have claimed that is your only intention for a while. And keep in mind that all things will come to an end.
-unsigned.

Amadi Yusuf Randal · Post by **Amadi Yusuf Randal** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:47 am

A small parchment is pinned beneath.

E. Defamation
Everyone who purposely designs and spreads wrong claims to harm someone else or to have own benefit from doing so commits crime in terms of the law. The crime is especially grave if it involves unfoundedly accusing someone in the government or guard baselessly for committing a crime (Then treat as Category III.III crime). Only citizens, guards and others in position of authority are protected against this type of crime.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:38 am

I hold by my statements on this matter, and I stop discussing it because you will just bring me into a circular argument, and I'd rather not waste my time with scum. Both of you showed the public why I am holding to my decision. You all make it a habit of lying, and I'm not wasting my time with liars, and I won't allow you to waste the other peoples time either. Also, I do not accept moral criticism from someone who has violated three laws, ran off to aid a mass murderer, and continues to befriend criminals.

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Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:44 am

Meeting

This Sunday ((3PM EST)) on top of the Seahorse roof for any citizens. There is nothing specific to discuss, so come with any business you have. Some minor things might be gone over as well.

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ThisGuy · Post by **ThisGuy** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:06 pm

I was north of town a human who looked like (712.....) approached me said he didn't like my kind and attacked me, he ran off after a short fight.

I later saw him in town where he had then began to randomly attack others((1 new player just as he walked out of the library)) screaming of chaos and ranting about nothing.

Ichus Zmorl