Also ich denke es ist nicht zuu kompliziert, aber bietet den Spielern halt eine interessante Produktionsmethode..
ich eräutere es (bildhaft) mit ner Ledertasche:
beim Schneidern müssen alle einzelnen Lederstücke zusammengenäht werden..so ist es statt 1 Leder + 2 Garn -> 1 Ledertasche eben...
2*3 Leder + 1*1 Leder + 3 Garn + 1*1 Leder+ 3 Garn + 2*2 Leder + 2 Garn -> 1 Ledertasche
naja..ist ja nur ne Idee..
Last edited by Algavo on Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:11 pm, edited 2 times in total.
also es würde die unterschiedlichen Berufe anders gestalten (Schmieden und Schneidern sind bisher nämlich nahezu identisch)
außerdem würde dieses System das jetzige nicht ersetzen..
man kann (wie oben gezeigt) ein 7*3 Stück Leder zerschneiden oder zusammennähen
es müsste halt nur etliche verschiedene "Sorten" von Leder geben
1*1,1*2,...,2*2,2*3,.......
aber es wäre machbar
Je einfacher es gehalten ist und je weniger Einzelschritt-Items wir brauchen, umso funktionabler und einfacher zu bedienen ist es letzten Endes.
Stell dir vor wir brauchen für jedes herstellbare Item mehrere Grafiken für die Einzelteile ! Und willst du wirklich eine ganze ROlle Garn für jede Naht verwenden ? Hehehe...
(Außerdem kann man die "Klappe" einer Tasche auch sehr gut aus einem Stück mit der Frontwand, dem Boden und der Rückwand herstellen. Da braucht man dann genau drei Lederstücke und vier relativ kurze Nähte )
es ist doch eh schon gut geregelt durch die Prozentregelung.
schneidet Stücke aus dem Leder 50% vernäht die Stücke 100% (nicht festnageln hab ig nie genäht) fehlen nur ein paar #me für die möglichen Zuschauer
Can someone remove the text in english from the title then? Its indecypherable and gives the impression that the proposal is written in english as well.
sorry for pushing this up...but i think that our economy is really suffering....and i mean REALLY!!
most persons who wants to get money are working for NPCs!
the only really need that our players have are following - in my opinion:
building materials and the things they need to work for the NPCs (for example leather and thread)!
But let's look in our real life economy: you have problems to find someone who is offering that...the persons offer clothes and many other things, but not THAT!
In my opinion there are two - of course more - ways to handle that situation:
1. the wearout is increased much..and i mean MUCH
2. the production should become more more difficult (thats the reason why i push that thread up)
The economie is a problem. The reason for this is. We are more producers then consumers. The things that are made are mainly not needed by the player characters.
Thats the whole problem but sadly thats just as it work in Online Games. I don't see away to change this.
umm..."more producers than consumers"..i hope you dont think that, if we are more players, that we have more consumers..
but..why cant we make the production not as easy as it is at the moment?
we have more producers than consumers, so we can care for it that the producers produce as much as from other players - not NPCs - is needed!
Algavo wrote:umm..."more producers than consumers"..i hope you dont think that, if we are more players, that we have more consumers..
Wrong More players will increase the amount of producers as well. And the count of producers will raise more then the amount of consumers does.
Algavo wrote:but..why cant we make the production not as easy as it is at the moment?
Keep in mind that the production got alot more difficult and expensive. I think the point of the crafting system we have right now is pretty good.
Algavo wrote:we have more producers than consumers, so we can care for it that the producers produce as much as from other players - not NPCs - is needed!
As example: Do you really think IG some players would be a really crappy newbie helmet from a new smith player if he can get a much better helmet from another player? I tell you the answer. The player will buy the better helmet. To consider anything else is just wrong.
in reality noone, but really noone of us, could make a helmet that is sellable..so you have to learn from a master..i think that this combination Newbie<->Master is a lot more important than offering many traders which are buying the things...keep it realistic..please...it is the ONLY way to solve our problem
Im having a hard time finding armors to a decent pirce. If the good quality goods was cheaper, there would be more consumers. Most people are using poor gear atm, because everything is so expensive. Lets sell poor gear to NPC's and the good to the players.
Ich würd mal Sagen Vorschläge Handwerkssystem gleich sperren für was haben einige Monatelang am neuen gearbeitet das wirklich sehr gut ist .
Es gibt wirklich sehr wichtige Sachen auf die man schauen müßte , ich sag nur Server und zuverläßig laufen . Bevor das nich mal passiert ist würd ich an andere Sachen gar nicht erst denken weil es Blödsinn ist .
what we need most, is not a change in production systems, but a change in using.
a bucket has to get leaky, after using it enough times.
and crafting itself has to use up the clothing you wear.
Executor wrote:Im having a hard time finding armors to a decent pirce. If the good quality goods was cheaper, there would be more consumers. Most people are using poor gear atm, because everything is so expensive. Lets sell poor gear to NPC's and the good to the players.
Just to give you an impression, it took me around 30 ingots of iron and 15 leather to make a platemail armour (just the top bit)
Don't expect a cheap price for armour, it takes ages, has a lot of failure chances and takes a good bit of skill to make.
Taeryon wrote:Das wäre noch komplizierter als das ganze zeug jetzt schon ist. Bitte nicht.
Dann hast du schon fasst den Grund aufgefasst, warum ich Illarion meide. Das einzige, was man tun kann, ohne irgendwelche lästigen Zwischenkommentare ist, Monster zerdreschen, was auf Dauer sehr langweilig wird. Abgesehen davon, nervt es, wenn ich mich für ein lächerliches Brot oder einen Kuchen fünf Minuten hinstellen muss, und da sind diese Unterbrechungen durch "menschliche" Fehler nichtmal drin.
Auch wenn diese "lästigen Zwischenkommentare" das Spiel realer wirken lassen.
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More players will increase the amount of producers as well. And the count of producers will raise more then the amount of consumers does.
