Ownership of Estates and Inactivity

horrible · Post by **horrible** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:05 pm

I'm sure this suggestion will be met with much enthusiasm and glee. Well, to hell with that as I stand behind my idea and will not flee.
(Sorry

)

The problem is quite simple. People are quitting the game or simply becoming inactive, and their characters are left with sometimes significant estate posessions, which in the worst case are locked and totally inaccessable. (For instance, the seahorse + patric)

So, the buildings stand empty and without any use. At least me, that fails to amuse. So I propose this: After thirty days of inactivity any houses owned by individuals or guilds (they could put timers into locks, for instance) are auctioned to the highest bidder by the gamemasters. Then 75% of the money gained is then deposited to the inacitve owner character or the headmaster of the inactive guild while 25% is deducted and taken entirely out of the game (to cause some leakage out of the system). The house effectively changes ownership.

If there is an inactive government, the keys/ownership will be given to a possible faction of usurpers (Maybe even for free). So, if Siltaris is inactive for a month without any arrangements or word, then gamemasters will remove her powers and then let people play king of the hill until the strongest/most popular can take her place. That would encourage against stagnation.

Naturally, those who own houses will say:
We built those things, you can't do that! You busted your ass off, so effing what? If you don't play, I don't think the amount of work you did should have any influence either way.

Whaddya think?

abcfantasy · Post by **abcfantasy** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:11 pm

Building Rules wrote:What happens if i become inactive?

A character counts as inactive, if it wasn't loged in for two months

The houses of inactive players, become the ownership of the town, where it is build in. They have to search for a new use.

If a house get no new owner it degenerates.

If a guild has less then 4 members caused by inactivity, the whole guild is inactive and the building of this guild is free to get into the ownership of another guild. If this doesn't happen the building degenerates too.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:12 pm

Inactivity is the biggest problem with this stuff, if something like this was to be put in place it would only be right to give a majority of re-sell funds back to the person, because sometimes RL stuff comes up and so on. I sold my stuff when I felt I was inactive, but not everyone does, sometimes they come back, if not, there are buyers out there.

horrible · Post by **horrible** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:26 pm

abcfantasy wrote:
Building Rules wrote:What happens if i become inactive?

A character counts as inactive, if it wasn't loged in for two months

The houses of inactive players, become the ownership of the town, where it is build in. They have to search for a new use.

If a house get no new owner it degenerates.

If a guild has less then 4 members caused by inactivity, the whole guild is inactive and the building of this guild is free to get into the ownership of another guild. If this doesn't happen the building degenerates too.

Yeah, but I guess this has some major sucky parts. First of all, it relies on the government/players to do actually something, while it might be inactive or just inefficient. It's pretty difficult for them to firstly track down the exact time a person has been down (unless he/she is extremely extravagant and loud, like patric). Secondly, there might even be some ooc reason for them not to take any action (He's on my msn!).

Nope, I think that it's better if these things are dictated from above. You go past that time -> Auction. I'd go as far as to say that gamemaster-characters could cooperate with the local authorities and give them a bit leeway in who could bid for the house and such (citizens only/no citizens of Varshikar, but a minimum price would have to be in place, of course).

Karl · Post by **Karl** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:39 pm

Your rhymes make my headache go boom boom.

horrible · Post by **horrible** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:48 pm

I did not know that my sheer genius;
was capable of doing something so awesome and henious.

Karl · Post by **Karl** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:54 pm

plz stfu

horrible · Post by **horrible** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:55 pm

Please, Karl. Show some spine. You don't have to read this line.

AlexRose · Post by **AlexRose** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:33 pm

Horrible is something that rhymes with d00b.

Llama · Post by **Llama** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:05 pm

AlexRose wrote:Horrible is something that rhymes with d00b.

Tube?

Hey I lyke the rhyme
I think he's fine

Theon · Post by **Theon** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:10 pm

I'm not the kind to normally rhyme,
But why oh why must you go off topic?

horrible · Post by **horrible** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:19 pm

Hell. It seems like this thread is not doing too well.

But, tadam, what this thread really needs is a response from Nitram.

Post by **Nitram** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:55 pm

I don't see any point here.

If a character who own a house gets inactive, the house becomes a ruine or get sold to someone else.

I think thats fine so far.

Nitram

Dantagon Marescot · Post by **Dantagon Marescot** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:20 am

I can't tell if this is you trying to make a true proposal, or if you just want to get rid of, or even buy, this building. If the latter, then don't even bother with your suggestion. The building is owned by Siltaris/the goverment and they will do with it to what they please. And yes, as far as I know, there are plans for it.

horrible · Post by **horrible** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:01 pm

The total money my character carries is 90 coppers. Indeed, I am using this as a clever ploy to do a hostile takeover of the seahorse AND to topple Siltaris..

...

Or then I just used Seahorse/Siltars as two separate exaples in regards to this rather general suggestion. Go figure.

Fooser · Post by **Fooser** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:10 pm

There's always some hostile OOC conspiracy going on

Kevin Lightdot · Post by **Kevin Lightdot** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:52 pm

Nitram wrote:I don't see any point here.

If a character who own a house gets inactive, the house becomes a ruine or get sold to someone else.

I think thats fine so far.

Nitram

Would there be a possibillity to make exeptions, when for instance, you are going to have no time for quite a while? THat letting someone else 'babysit' your house or such?

Lennier · Post by **Lennier** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:18 pm

of course

Siltaris · Post by **Siltaris** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:57 pm

Little more ooc info just to clear things up:

Siltaris (not the government) is the official owner of the Seahorse after Samatha has left.

Siltaris had several plans for building projects in TB. Due to various changed ig-circumstances (arson, Building rules, various party's desires) and lack of personal free time, rebuilding of Seahorse and the Jail has been delayed.

Hope things will work out within the next month or so. However, there are new elections soon.

Post by **Nitram** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:26 am

I think we went far away from the point of that topic.

Buildings of inactive ones get sold to new owner or become a ruin.

Exceptions are possible of the player of the owner char tells it before to Lennier.

Anything more?

Nitram

Ascius · Post by **Ascius** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:06 pm

I wonder what exactly is named "inactive". I know that I myself don't really play at the moment, because of reasons of time and a lot of other things in my head.

I guess being around should be enough for a period of time, if not, take this as a request for exception.