leathers

[Dash]

It would be nice if my char would actually attack faster with leathers when using daggers then with steel. He attacks about twice as slow with leathers.

[Boindil]

The same with wrestling!

[Avalyon el'Hattarr]

I think that leathers should not give a minus at magic skills

[Estralis Seborian]

I think that leathers should not give a minus at magic skills

As well as rings shouldn't.

[Avalyon el'Hattarr]

What??!!?? why do the rings give a minus? that's crap!!!
What rings exactly?

[Estralis Seborian]

See

http://illarion.org/community/forums/vi ... hp?t=21065

and

http://illarion.org/community/forums/vi ... hp?t=22001

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[Avalyon el'Hattarr]

can't access those :/

[Keikan Hiru]

Assuming nothing has changed, one ring has a malus on magic, two are not giving anything (+/-0) and the rest offers various bonus points.

I see no problem there.

[Estralis Seborian]

I just see the problem that some items with a high "felt" value are totally useless or even harming.

But on leather, I agree that the magic mali are not the best idea. In special because robes and other non-leather-clothes don't grant magical boni.

[Keikan Hiru]

You know how I think about magic boni on clothes.

Nothing should actually give you a magic bonus unless "enchanted" by priest/bard/magician/[your profession here].
On the other hand, I want to see plenty items giving you a magic malus including leather armor.

To say it with the words of another famous game:
"Mages are a cloth-class."

[Avalyon el'Hattarr]

In the illarion magic "guide" only metal keeps the mana from flowing trough the body of the caster.. how is leather metal?

[Keikan Hiru]

Its the skin of a dead animal, it makes Oldra and Ushara sad and they keep the Spice ... erm, ... Mana from flowing.

Satisfied?

[Avalyon el'Hattarr]

hardly.. you can't put whatever effects you want on what doesn't apply.. leather, wood, [insert non metal obj] should NOT block magic

[Keikan Hiru]

Excerpt from said Magic guide:

Mages may not wear armour, as it prevents you from absorbing the mana.

This can be interpreted in either way.

[Avalyon el'Hattarr]

Indeed, very vague.. All mages IG teach that a mage should not wear metal items, leather has no logical sense in blocking magic.

On the other hand, I agree upon giving magic bony through enchantment

[Thanseus Valerian]

it would be very nice that i attack faster if i have a good skill

[Tanistian_Kanea]

i saw, leather attack faster then most metal armor. but mages need cloth. if mages don't need cloth armor then there really is NO market for the items. i swear everyone just walks around wearing their armor or naked and simply role plays clothes. even with mages needing cloth i don't think it would help the market that much. not till paper dolling.

[AlexRose]

In the illarion magic "guide" only metal keeps the mana from flowing trough the body of the caster.. how is leather metal?

No, leather too. That's why some mages don't even wear shoes.

The reason you don't know this is cos you got magic too quickly with not enough theory lessons.

The reason you were told specifically no METAL armour is because when you cast with metal armour your spells come back and pwn you; leather just weakens them, and so it isn't as bad for your magic. If you want to weaken your magic and raise your defense, go ahead; but I'll never wear anything but cloth

[Wyrda]

go back to topic now! Someone fix the daggers and leather situation! xD

[Avalyon el'Hattarr]

I said how it should be, not how it is.. I know that curently leather weakens magic, and you were IG told this because it was a mere adaptment of the teacher at the situation (i guess).
And no, metal does not reflect your spells, just uber weakens them